Thursday, October 24, 2024
Show Notes
Matt Cook and Buttsy are joined by Brent Grant in this episode, kicking off with Buttsy's driving range observations in the Tee Off Report. The trio dives into pro golf with a recap and discussion on the Shriners Open. The Swannies Style Segment brings a lively debate on ideal golf outfits and dress codes. Brent provides insights into the ZOZO Championship, including a breakdown and picks. The conversation shifts to Will Zalatoris, golfer injuries, and Aon Next 10 rankings. They also cover LIV Golf updates, player contracts, and the implications of the PGA Tour deal. A look into the future of LIV, TGL, and PGA Tour as separate entities, along with the LIV Golf CEO search, rounds out the episode.
(0:00) Introduction and episode overview with segment previews
(1:13) Sponsor: Swannies Golf
(2:16) The Tee Off report w/ Buttsy
(7:53) Pro golf recap with Brent Grant and Shriners open discussion
(17:43) Swannies Style Segment: Ideal golf outfits and dress code debate
(31:17) ZOZO Championship Preview
(41:49) Discussion on Will Zalatoris, golfer injuries, and Aon Next 10 rankings
(47:52) LIV Golf updates, player contract news, and PGA Tour deal implications
(1:06:32) Future of LIV, TGL, and PGA Tour as separate entities with CEO search for LIV Golf
(1:16:02) Teams confirmed for next LIV season
(1:17:18) Sponsor: Swannies Golf
(1:17:38) Closing remarks
Show Transcript
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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Tonight, we have an awesome episode for all of
you.
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We've got Buttsy joining us here remotely from
a hotel room, and who knows what he's been
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doing in there, but, man, he's looking fresh to
death.
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The cheeks are red already, and I am absolutely
pumped for this episode because, folks, I'm
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gonna go over a little bit of what we're gonna
go over tonight.
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We're gonna go over the Tee Off Report.
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That is our new segment with Buttsy to where we
just tee off on some topics around that.
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Then from there, we've got the Pro Golf Recap
segment, which we're gonna be going over the
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Shriners Open.
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That was an awesome golf tournament.
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I love that track over at TPC Summerlin, and
let's keep it moving with the Swannies Style
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segment.
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And then we've got the big preview of the
episode, which is the upcoming Zozo
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Championship, and then we got some LIV Golf
updates too.
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What was that, Buttsy?
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Not that even.
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Go ahead.
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am absolutely juiced about it.
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Might give you guys a little bit of insight as
to the Swannies style segment as to what we're
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gonna be talking about there.
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But our very first segment of the night, it is
the tee-off report with Buttsy.
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Welcome on, Buttsy.
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How are you doing, man?
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Tired.
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Fucking tired.
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Hang on.
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On a plane, got there, waited around.
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I felt the rumblings.
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So I got this thing, and I won't take up too
much time here.
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But I've never sit on an airplane for obvious
reasons.
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It'd be terrible for me.
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And so I felt the hankling of a turd coming on
about 30 minutes into the flight.
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Oh, so I'm fucking freaked out, and I ate a
whole roll of Rolaids in an effort to
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Does that work?
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Oh, yeah.
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But the problem is you're gonna be paying for
that because that's gonna work for about three
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days.
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So this theater's full.
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Yeah.
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So that's how I'm doing.
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I'm a little tired, but, dude, it's paranormal.
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Happy to be here, man.
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Light tires, light tires.
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Come around turn 4.
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Bam.
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Let's get it going.
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Now with our tee-off report, we're gonna start
off with the good old word association.
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And first thing that pops in your head after I
say the following.
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Here we go.
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The ZOZO Championship.
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Like a bozo like a clown.
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Hideki Matsuyama.
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Sounds like a guy that's gonna try to get me to
catch a shrimp in my mouth at a cooking table.
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Chopsticks.
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Hideki Matsuyama.
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Hibachi.
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Also, Hideki Matsuyama.
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Xander Schauffele, whose mother is Asian and
grew up in Japan.
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Cigar humidor.
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Oh, Collin Morikawa, half Japanese.
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Data from The Goonies.
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That's pretty so.
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That's pretty good.
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Japanese golf?
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Hideki Matsuyama.
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We've got a trend here already with Hideki
Matsuyama.
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Now let's get into the second part of the
tee-off report, which is Buttsy's Soapbox.
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Here we go.
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Now you've been spending a lot of time at the
driving range lately, and I've heard you gripe
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about a few things.
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But I need to know, what have you been seeing
out there at the driving range lately?
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Gosh.
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I feel like there's this and I think all dudes
know this.
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Maybe chicks too.
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I mean, I don't know how I'm not a chick, but
the unsaid competition that's happening between
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range goers out there, I think, is a real
thing.
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Like, you kinda step back, you sip your soda or
your beer, and you just hear somebody
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absolutely throttling on the golf ball.
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And you kinda look down, but you don't wanna
really look.
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You wanna look out of the corner of your eye
because you don't wanna give them too much
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credibility.
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And then you kinda notice, hey.
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It's kinda like sizing somebody up at the gym
in a way.
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And you know what I mean?
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You know what I mean?
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It's like, it's just it's so it's so stupid.
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But so you make the comparison, and you're
obviously gonna think you're better than them.
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So if they're hitting driver, you're definitely
going to driver.
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And you're kinda doing this on-off, me go, you
go type thing.
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And, like, who's longer and who's got a bigger
so long banger?
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I
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think that's going on out there.
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That's going, a little competitiveness out
there on the range.
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Especially amongst, like, you might get lucky
if you walk onto a busy driving range at night
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and get more than one guy out there that's got
a nice move, that's hitting the ball well, that
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probably breaks 80.
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If you get two or three of those, on the same
night, fuck.
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Game on, dude.
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Wow.
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Game on.
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Maybe I'm just out in left field here.
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Maybe that's just me being an idiot, but I
don't think I'm alone in this.
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That's an interest.
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I haven't been out to the driving range in a
while, so I'm not quite sure.
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But I do recall when I would go out and
practice, if somebody did crack a driver, you
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kinda tend to get up there and really crack
one, you know, just to let them know, hey.
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I'm here too.
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And I can hit it farther than you.
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Yeah.
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I got a big old set of fucking elk horns on me
here.
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K?
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Really?
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Get into the rut.
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Mark a tree.
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Oh, I absolutely love that.
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Now let's see what the audience has to say
about that segment.
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They loved it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Big fans.
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Big fans of the Buttsy on a soapbox segment
right there.
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And that is the tee off report, folks.
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So if you're out there at the driving range
having some challenges going on, just know that
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that is natural.
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That is happening to everybody.
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And I think so too because, you know, it's that
competitiveness that goes on.
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Now, with this, I've got, track golfers is no
direct looking with the
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No throw direct looking.
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No.
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By going I don't know.
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If you know that you're the alpha there and
that you're definitely the more dominant
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striker of the golf ball, I think you could
probably turn and directly stare that person
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down after every time you get a shot.
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Mhmm.
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So I said it.
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Yeah.
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That could be pretty good.
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That might be okay.
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Might be alright.
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Anyways.
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Well, let's move on.
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Let's keep it moving, keep it grooving.
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We've got the pro golf recap in which we gotta
bring on our tour insider.
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Everybody, let's give it up for none other than
Brent Grant.
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There we go.
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Man, that's the biggest applause that I think
you've gotten even on the Korn Ferry Tour this
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past year.
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Six weeks.
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PGA Tour the year before, you know.
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So, yeah.
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That was, that was quite fantastic out of our
live audience here.
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But welcome to the show, Brent.
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How are you doing, buddy?
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I'm doing well.
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Doing well, guys.
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Over here in Murrieta, California, at the first
stage of Q-School, caddying for my boy Jared
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Sawada.
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Getting baked in the hot sun.
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It's about 90 degrees here.
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So, got a nice cherry tomato thing going on.
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Gotcha.
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Oh, it's just great.
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Yeah.
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It's just basically a straight line across my
forehead.
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Fantastic.
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Anything below that is just roasted.
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But, other than that, doing great.
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How'd your boy play?
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You got some more.
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He played well today.
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Only made two bad swings, shot 3 under.
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He's three back of the lead.
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We're just gonna cruise on through and get to
second stage.
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Just keep on cruising, baby.
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I'm doing well.
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I'm enjoying this studio this solo.
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I was telling the guys I might never have them
back in the studio again.
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This is I feel like I got room.
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I got the desk.
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I got the soundboard next to me.
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God.
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I just feel great about it.
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Yeah.
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Well, makes sense.
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You don't have a, you know, 200-ton buffalo
sitting next to you or a or a stick tree eyes.
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Oh, that's the type of episode.
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Room room of plenty.
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Sorry.
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I wasn't talking about plenty.
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Sitting there breathing another man's burps for
an hour.
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It's pretty nice.
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A clownfish bow legs.
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Men burp.
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You know, as much as you burp and fart while
you're here in studio, I don't think I've ever
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smelled anything that bad.
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No.
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Because that fuck keeps it tight, dude.
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Keep this thing
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keep this thing flying.
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Until about three days from now.
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Yeah.
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I so badly wanna ask you.
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How do you keep your farts or burps smelling
good?
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I have several masking agents that I use.
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Both, well, I don't wanna say rectally, but
that's probably what it is.
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And then from the top hole and those two, when
they meet in the middle, clean.
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That's fantastic.
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Wax on, wax off.
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Okay.
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You're still good.
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That is fantastic.
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Alright.
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So that leads us right into the Shriners Open.
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I mean, I don't think there's a better segue in
the world of livestream recordings of podcasts
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in the history of the game.
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This was perfectly transitioned by Buttsy to
the Shriners Open in which we got to see J.T.
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Poston shoot 22 under.
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Now the one thing about J.T., he's been a
little bit under the radar, I feel.
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I didn't realize he was in the top 50 and
already was exempt next year for all of these
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signature series events, and it's pretty
interesting.
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Finished 41st in the FedEx Cup this past, guy,
Tour Championship or FedEx Cup.
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I don't know what the hell to call it at this
point.
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But the dude's got five top tens this year, and
it just kinda snuck up on me.
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I wasn't really paying a whole lot of attention
to J.T.
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Poston, but I wanna get, Brent, why don't we
start with you on your take as to your take on
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J.T.
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Poston?
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Postman, you know, silent assassin.
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But it just the fact that he's gone under the
radar for pretty much most of the golfing world
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just shows you that, you know, the TV only, you
know, the camera only focuses on certain
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people.
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But, yeah, I mean, he's just an ATM.
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He has been for the most majority of his
career.
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I believe he's won John Deere twice.
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But the fact that he was able to win, the way
he was just I mean, he played well on Saturday
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and Sunday and got it done, but it was it was a
pretty dominant performance all the way around.
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Shoot 22 under on that golf course for four
days, especially with Friday being Gale's
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horse, is pretty impressive.
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But, I don't know, Buttsy.
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What do you think?
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J.T.
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Poston.
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The only reason that I knew that he's in the
top 50 is because I bet $10 on him every week,
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thanks to DraftKings, because his odds are
crazy, and he's always up there.
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Otherwise, I wouldn't know.
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But that's, you guys should've just asked me.
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I fucking knew that already.
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So well, for now,
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I like his name too.
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It's a cool name.
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Yeah.
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And the nickname, Postman, you know, that's
pretty good.
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Like a fighter pilot name.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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Is a postman the same as a fighter pilot?
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Oh, no.
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Slightly confused.
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That's kinda like a hurt.
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That, like, hurt.
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Oh, you okay?
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There's four.
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He is not okay.
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So those Rolaids are not gonna work for very
long.
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You know, there have been people that have
literally killed themselves because of how much
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they farted in a tight space, and they got
carbon dioxide poisoning, I believe.
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That's not
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That's true.
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You mean meth valid?
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No.
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You're talking
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about maybe methane.
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Dutch oven and his wife, and she died because
he put her under the covers.
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No.
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That's that's not accurate.
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You can't deal with somebody like that.
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Just for that.
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Just for that.
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I mean, MythBusters need to come back.
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Yeah.
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We we we we should do an episode of
MythBusters.
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Alright.
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We should.
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Let second second place here was Doug Ghim.
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Dougie Ghim.
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He Las Vegas guy Doug Ghim.
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Dougie G.
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Yeah.
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Dougie G.
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Dougie G just he doesn't play very well.
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And then he pops up randomly every once in a
while.
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He did come up big on Sunday as well.
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He shot a 65 to lose by one.
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So that was two shots better than J.T.
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Poston on Sunday.
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And one?
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Ouch.
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Talk to me about Dougie Gimm there, good old
Brent Grant.
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BG on the DG?
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I played with him in Q School actually in 2017
excuse me, 2018.
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And then, just kinda watched him just kinda do
his thing.
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But he's he's struggled mightily.
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I think he's gone through a couple coaches and
and umpteen caddies and and whatnot, but, he's
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a phenomenal guy, pretty consistent player as
far as what he does best.
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It's you know, there's nothing that's, like,
outlandishly bad or outlandishly good.
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He's just kinda steady, but, doesn't hit it
that far.
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So he's already kinda had a disadvantage.
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But, yeah, I mean, he just basically saved his
next year with that second place finish.
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So super happy for him.
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But, I don't Buttsy, can you breathe?
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Is that our age?
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Should we be able to?
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You look like you're older.
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You're alive.
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Fair big.
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You okay?
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You okay?
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I'm fine.
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Don't worry about me.
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Oh, okay.
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He's alive.
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Let me just check your pulse.
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Doug Ghim?
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But yeah.
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You wanna add any comments on Doug, Dougie Ghim
there, Buttsy?
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Again, another player.
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I just really like his name.
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What does Doug Ghim remind you of?
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What's the word association there?
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I don't know.
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I just, like if I knew him, he was a friend of
mine, and I saw him Oh, Dougie.
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Horse, like, I'd just be like, yeah.
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See, his neighbor of mine Anyway,
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so Alright.
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My apologies, Buttsy.
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Didn't mean to talk over you there.
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Go ahead.
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What?
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No.
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I didn't even hear you.
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What'd you say?
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I was just gonna say that Dougie Ghim does
remind me of the guy who unfortunately passed
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away that sang the song "Teach Me How to
Dougie." I feel like he was referring to Doug
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Ghim when he did that.
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The guy died?
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He died.
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What was that?
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Yep.
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D.
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Ricky Graham or something like that, I believe
his name was.
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That was massive in middle school
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and high school.
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Oh, it was great.
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Teach me how to Dougie.
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Teach you.
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Teach me how to Dougie.
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That's Doug Ghim.
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Press that cricket music button.
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You just sit there real quick.
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Press the cricket button.
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Cricket.
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Let's go with
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Yeah.
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Doug Ghim, everybody.
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Alright.
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So that's our part of Doug Ghim there.
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Let's move on to the leaderboard rundown for
the Shriners.
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We have Matti Schmid, Matti Schmid, and Rico
Hoey or Huey.
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Huey?
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Huey.
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Huey.
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Oh, Huey.
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At 19 under, those guys finished in third.
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Michael Kim, Davis Thompson, K.H.
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Lee, minus 18.
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Taylor Pendrith, who almost shot a 59 on Day 1,
shot 17 under.
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Harry Hall, Harris English, Gary Woodland,
Alejandro Tosti, and Kurt Kitayama at minus 16.
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I mean, that Jeopardy, it's Jeopardy button.
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That is you walk through that entire
leaderboard.
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That is the top ten for the good old Shriners.
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And that's where we're gonna leave the Shriners
for this particular episode.
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We're moving and grooving.
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We're moving and grooving.
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We're moving right into the Swanny style
segment, folks.
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Matt's favorite segment.
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It's not just my favorite segment.
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00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:51,605
It's become the audience's favorite segment
because I'm gonna tell you right now, there was
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a lot of debate after last week around, and I
couldn't believe how much this triggered people
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in regards to whether or not there should be a
dress code on a public golf course.
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00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,179
And both sides of the spectrum were coming at
it.
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I mean after workers and autism?
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Lots.
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Lots of both.
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And wow.
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A lot of people I will say that they did not
like the idea of no dress code.
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They really wanted to make sure the dress codes
were still intact, and they related it.
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What's interesting about it is that they
related the dress code to having, you know, the
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things that golf teaches you as a youth and so
forth around etiquette and being a gentleman
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and all this, I just relate that to being a
bunch of elitist bullshit, to be honest with
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you.
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I just think, you know, we need to make golf
more at, what's the what's the term for it?
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We need to make it more available.
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Oh.
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There's a term for it.
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But, yes, make it more available.
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It doesn't start with an e.
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No.
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It doesn't.
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Cregious.
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Cregious.
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00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:04,940
Cregious.
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The, no.
430
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But that being most good.
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Inclusive.
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There we go.
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There's the word.
434
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Thank you, Brent.
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00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,095
But making golf more inclusive, that is the
absolute key, and that's why I said that my
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opinion has changed because I don't care if
people are going to wear, you know, gym shorts
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or a tank top or whatever it may be.
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And that does not trigger me.
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Like, I don't have a problem with somebody
showing up to a golf course.
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I don't even have a problem.
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Oh, and by the way, because you mentioned
jeans, Brent, people went off on that topic
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too.
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They're like, why no jeans?
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If you're not gonna have
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a dress code, why no jeans?
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Vicki's overalls would not
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fit on underneath, if that doesn't bother you?
448
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No.
449
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I would love to see that.
450
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:52,154
You kidding me?
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That'd be entertainment in and of itself.
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But people then started relating.
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So the purists that are like dress code, we
need to have a dress code and then came at
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golf.
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They started chiming in around the fact that,
you know, anybody who dresses poorly plays
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terrible.
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That's definitely not true.
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And that
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is not even close or remotely close.
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So I found that to be a pretty interesting
topic.
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So along those lines with our Swanee style
segment, the question that I'm going to ask the
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two of you, and we're gonna go over the full
outfit.
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So what is your ideal golf outfit if you could
wear anything?
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There's no dress code.
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You can wear whatever you want.
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Buttsy, I'm gonna start with you.
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From head to toe, what are you wearing?
468
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Just wanna play with the prior point there,
Val.
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I have never played with somebody that broke 80
in a wife beater.
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So, fuck that point.
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Wait.
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Wait.
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Wait.
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Wait.
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Get ready to say that again.
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Go ahead in 3, 2, 1.
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I have never ever
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oh, oh, hey.
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But somebody that broke 80 in a fucking wife
beater.
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Oh, hang on.
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A fucking A fucking
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Oh, that's brilliant.
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Oh, that was so terrible.
484
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That's why I didn't
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no.
486
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Because so I I missed the button.
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I ended up pressing something else.
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It got got out of hand.
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Got absolutely out of hand.
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We typed an entire essay on that board in order
to find the oh, I got it.
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I missed that.
492
00:21:33,045 --> 00:21:33,545
Sorry.
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I'm watching down here and trying to stay
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What the fuck was that?
495
00:21:42,005 --> 00:21:43,625
That I'm not gonna say.
496
00:21:45,125 --> 00:21:46,744
What's his favorite button?
497
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,640
You just push the G spot right there.
498
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,779
I love that.
499
00:21:55,039 --> 00:22:00,884
There's there's a few that you know, when the
audio and when we're back in studio and even
500
00:22:00,884 --> 00:22:06,505
when we have all three of us and the audio
engineers in here, actually gonna be recording
501
00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:11,365
some little, some little sound bits too that we
can use on the show.
502
00:22:11,365 --> 00:22:14,005
So gonna go over there Thursday and record some
stuff.
503
00:22:14,005 --> 00:22:15,625
Jordan, shout out to you, Bonnie.
504
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:19,019
But, yeah, let's, I I completely lost track.
505
00:22:19,019 --> 00:22:26,320
So, Buttsy, what is your ideal golf outfit from
top to bottom if there was no dress code?
506
00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:30,400
The same as it is today.
507
00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:33,575
I think I like higher-end fabrics.
508
00:22:33,795 --> 00:22:35,474
I don't think they have to be tucked in.
509
00:22:35,474 --> 00:22:37,414
That's about as crazy as I'm gonna get.
510
00:22:37,555 --> 00:22:41,414
Shorts, I like the idea of, like, a tennis
short above the knee.
511
00:22:42,674 --> 00:22:45,015
Again, very high-end light fabrics.
512
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:46,500
Nice polo.
513
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:49,539
I think your shoe game needs to be on fucking
point.
514
00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:54,180
If you roll out there with some duct tape
fucking slides on, no.
515
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,440
And if you wear FootJoy GreenJoys, I'm not
playing golf with you.
516
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,605
But, I say wear a hat if you want to.
517
00:23:01,605 --> 00:23:06,725
If you have great, little, life-flowing Jesus
Christo hair, like, fucking let that shit go.
518
00:23:06,725 --> 00:23:10,565
Mine's not like that, and I'm sponsored as
fuck, so I gotta wear a hat.
519
00:23:10,565 --> 00:23:12,505
So that's where I'm at with it.
520
00:23:13,045 --> 00:23:13,525
Okay.
521
00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,059
Brent, what about you, buddy?
522
00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:17,059
Oh,
523
00:23:17,059 --> 00:23:17,559
man.
524
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:21,320
I like what Chuck Galt said aside from the jean
shorts.
525
00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:23,220
Oh, man.
526
00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:24,120
Head to toe.
527
00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:34,484
Definitely, bucket hat, an athletic style
T-shirt, so, like, something that's, you know,
528
00:23:34,484 --> 00:23:37,944
the famous moisture-wicking fabrics, you know,
like what Buttsy said.
529
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:43,200
Any type of workout short, doesn't matter.
530
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,460
Anything mid-knee, slightly above the knee.
531
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:52,899
And then we're gonna go with no-show socks with
metal spikes.
532
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,819
Oh, I like what you said.
533
00:23:54,819 --> 00:23:56,444
No-show socks.
534
00:23:56,444 --> 00:23:59,105
Those tall tube socks, they look like fucking
trash.
535
00:23:59,164 --> 00:23:59,404
Yeah.
536
00:23:59,404 --> 00:23:59,724
Don't do
537
00:23:59,724 --> 00:24:00,178
it for you.
538
00:24:00,178 --> 00:24:01,744
You gotta have the calves for it.
539
00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:03,424
Don't do it.
540
00:24:03,644 --> 00:24:04,365
Don't do it.
541
00:24:04,365 --> 00:24:08,625
I mean, you know, the calves that work for it
are actually the calves that are tiny.
542
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:09,990
That's yeah.
543
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:10,390
Exactly.
544
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:12,410
It's for the guys that miss leg day.
545
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:13,029
Correct.
546
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:14,090
They're for nickels.
547
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:17,369
Their knee goes straight into their freaking
foot.
548
00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:18,150
Interesting.
549
00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:19,529
Like, almost like a cankle?
550
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:20,070
No.
551
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:21,269
Like an ankle.
552
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:21,590
Yeah.
553
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:22,170
A nickel.
554
00:24:22,705 --> 00:24:23,664
For a knick?
555
00:24:23,664 --> 00:24:25,184
A knick knuckle?
556
00:24:25,184 --> 00:24:26,404
Something very thin.
557
00:24:26,785 --> 00:24:29,365
Now my answer to this is twofold.
558
00:24:29,825 --> 00:24:33,924
So I've got one that is more casual if it's
nice and cool outside.
559
00:24:34,144 --> 00:24:38,579
If it's cool outside, I wanna wear a hoodie,
something like the Swannies Camden, and then I
560
00:24:38,579 --> 00:24:41,000
wanna wear, like, jogger sweatpants.
561
00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:43,160
I want sweatpants out there.
562
00:24:43,539 --> 00:24:45,539
I love rocking.
563
00:24:45,539 --> 00:24:50,039
There's such nice materials now for sweatpants
that they don't even look like sweatpants.
564
00:24:50,144 --> 00:24:55,265
I just don't have the balls to walk up to a
golf course, even a public golf course with a
565
00:24:56,545 --> 00:24:59,184
semi dress code and rocking sweatpants.
566
00:24:59,184 --> 00:25:03,125
I just don't feel right about it, so I would
love if there was no dress code.
567
00:25:03,184 --> 00:25:05,299
Hoodie, sweatpants, done.
568
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:13,940
Now if even if there was no dress code on a
nice warm day, I'm rocking regular golf shorts.
569
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,779
I'm rocking a Swannies polo.
570
00:25:16,115 --> 00:25:17,875
I am rocking a hat.
571
00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:21,015
I'm rocking no-show socks, and I'm rocking
Jordans.
572
00:25:21,634 --> 00:25:26,275
That's the golf outfit right there, and most
likely, 90% of the time, I'm rocking an
573
00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:29,234
alligator white belt or cream belt.
574
00:25:29,234 --> 00:25:29,955
My god.
575
00:25:29,955 --> 00:25:30,455
Yep.
576
00:25:31,394 --> 00:25:31,894
Well,
577
00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:35,690
man, you might have just stirred up the entire
universe with that one.
578
00:25:35,690 --> 00:25:36,009
Yeah.
579
00:25:36,009 --> 00:25:39,869
So, Matt, to your point, though, like, I think
we're in the same boat on this.
580
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:41,789
I just like wearing a polo.
581
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:42,570
Yeah.
582
00:25:42,730 --> 00:25:43,690
I'm fine with a polo.
583
00:25:43,690 --> 00:25:44,490
That's the thing.
584
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:52,085
I think when Brent and I were talking about it
last week and that clip came out, people were
585
00:25:52,085 --> 00:25:52,964
like, oh my god.
586
00:25:52,964 --> 00:25:54,484
These guys just wanna wear whatever.
587
00:25:54,484 --> 00:25:58,884
Like, actually if there was no dress code, it
really wouldn't change what I wear unless it
588
00:25:58,884 --> 00:25:59,944
was cold conditions.
589
00:26:00,884 --> 00:26:01,289
No.
590
00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:03,130
It would change what I wear.
591
00:26:03,130 --> 00:26:04,670
You'd wear a Barney onesie?
592
00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:05,630
Yes.
593
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:07,470
I lost the bet.
594
00:26:07,529 --> 00:26:10,190
If I'm not wearing a dress code, I got several.
595
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:13,470
I'm all ready with my overalls and everything.
596
00:26:14,009 --> 00:26:16,275
Like, the line's a little line.
597
00:26:16,355 --> 00:26:16,515
Yeah.
598
00:26:16,515 --> 00:26:17,474
And there is a line.
599
00:26:17,474 --> 00:26:18,775
That line is a Speedo.
600
00:26:19,075 --> 00:26:22,375
And by the way, you just shouldn't rock it at
all ever.
601
00:26:23,234 --> 00:26:23,714
Interesting.
602
00:26:23,714 --> 00:26:24,355
Even in public.
603
00:26:24,595 --> 00:26:28,055
Guys going commando on the golf course under
their golf shorts.
604
00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:30,214
That's a ballsy move.
605
00:26:30,649 --> 00:26:37,369
Or the old Northwestern with, ball trick where
you wear basketball shorts underneath your rain
606
00:26:37,369 --> 00:26:39,769
pants because, you know, you're not gonna take
your rain pants off.
607
00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:40,809
Oh, I used to do that.
608
00:26:40,809 --> 00:26:42,750
I used to do that a lot in New York.
609
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:43,529
Yeah.
610
00:26:43,529 --> 00:26:44,750
It's a it's a must.
611
00:26:45,654 --> 00:26:46,855
It's a must to have.
612
00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:47,674
Kind of brilliant.
613
00:26:47,894 --> 00:26:48,634
It is.
614
00:26:48,934 --> 00:26:53,275
Brent, do you feel what you wear on tour as a
uniform?
615
00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:54,875
Absolutely.
616
00:26:55,494 --> 00:26:55,994
Absolutely.
617
00:26:56,775 --> 00:27:02,029
There's there is a there's a strict I mean,
there is a strict dress code.
618
00:27:02,029 --> 00:27:07,950
So, I mean, they have obviously kind of pushed
a little bit with, like, hoodies and and, you
619
00:27:07,950 --> 00:27:12,990
know, some of these, like, super long, like,
button-down shirts have kind of been seen.
620
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:16,755
But for the most part, you've got to have your
shirt tucked in.
621
00:27:18,734 --> 00:27:20,255
I don't agree with the joggers.
622
00:27:20,255 --> 00:27:25,695
I don't think that, you know, you should be
wearing pants that go this high above your shoe
623
00:27:25,695 --> 00:27:27,695
and it's, you know, ankle tight.
624
00:27:27,695 --> 00:27:28,819
They're like, shit.
625
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:30,319
They're so bad.
626
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,960
Buttsy, you were wearing joggers literally
627
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,519
the other day.
628
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:33,919
I like
629
00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:34,880
those, though.
630
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,599
You know, you had literally joggers on.
631
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:42,259
However, you unzipped the bottom so it didn't
fully look like it was a jogger.
632
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,220
I noticed.
633
00:27:43,484 --> 00:27:44,144
I saw
634
00:27:44,444 --> 00:27:44,684
that.
635
00:27:44,684 --> 00:27:49,984
Brent, Brent, why do you wear a cup on tour
when you don't play baseball?
636
00:27:54,845 --> 00:27:59,880
It's just in case when I'm hitting my bunker
shots, I don't nail myself with the butt end of
637
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,460
the club.
638
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:02,519
I'm pretty sure he does it for the Belgian men.
639
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:03,400
He does it for the
640
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Just gotta hold it in.
641
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:06,920
I'm not
642
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,400
I'm not looking or anything, but, like, you're
looking.
643
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,059
Oh, it's okay.
644
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,100
What does the audience think about Brent
wearing a cup?
645
00:28:20,384 --> 00:28:21,184
They love it.
646
00:28:21,184 --> 00:28:22,305
They absolutely love it.
647
00:28:22,384 --> 00:28:23,025
Blancher, bro.
648
00:28:23,025 --> 00:28:23,585
Gotta protect.
649
00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:25,445
A wood guy in the audience is hammered.
650
00:28:25,505 --> 00:28:26,404
Dude, hammered.
651
00:28:26,545 --> 00:28:27,924
The same thing.
652
00:28:27,985 --> 00:28:28,805
It's crazy.
653
00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:35,389
Oh, man.
654
00:28:35,389 --> 00:28:41,149
But, yeah, I mean, even my dad, who wore a
uniform for 30 years, said that's exactly what
655
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:41,630
it is.
656
00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,329
So, yeah, why not?
657
00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:44,794
It's the uniform.
658
00:28:44,934 --> 00:28:49,434
Brent, who is your apparel sponsor, Trout
Golfer wants to know?
659
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,335
Who is my—oh, is that what he said?
660
00:28:51,335 --> 00:28:51,734
I'm sorry.
661
00:28:51,734 --> 00:28:53,274
I'm trying not to look into the computer.
662
00:28:54,054 --> 00:28:59,210
Trout, my apparel sponsor currently is Asher
Golf out of Utah.
663
00:28:59,349 --> 00:29:03,269
Really, really nice company, and they've taken
care of me this year.
664
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:06,390
Ten out of ten recommend checking them out.
665
00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:11,325
And by the way, so, Brent, we have a promo code
through them for their golf gloves and stuff,
666
00:29:11,325 --> 00:29:11,825
right?
667
00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:13,404
I believe so.
668
00:29:13,404 --> 00:29:14,144
Hold on.
669
00:29:14,444 --> 00:29:15,904
Is it Pull Hook 20?
670
00:29:16,044 --> 00:29:17,005
Is it Pull Hook 20?
671
00:29:17,005 --> 00:29:18,544
I believe it's Pull Hook 20.
672
00:29:18,845 --> 00:29:19,744
That's fantastic.
673
00:29:19,964 --> 00:29:20,845
So, oh, man.
674
00:29:20,845 --> 00:29:22,765
Now you're gonna make—I can't even go to my
phone.
675
00:29:22,765 --> 00:29:23,680
My phone's the camera.
676
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,080
It's alright.
677
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,519
I believe it's Pull Hook 20.
678
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,059
Give that a try there, Trout.
679
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Apparently, they've got the nicest gloves in
680
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,080
the game, Cabretta leather.
681
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,799
They actually do.
682
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,295
Brent, why don't you tell us what Cabretta
leather is?
683
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:43,715
It is—it is stone-made, like, literally made
out of—it's goat leather.
684
00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:45,095
Did I say stone-made?
685
00:29:45,095 --> 00:29:45,855
Stone-made.
686
00:29:45,855 --> 00:29:47,695
What—what does that mean, stone-made?
687
00:29:47,695 --> 00:29:47,934
Wait.
688
00:29:48,255 --> 00:29:51,075
So they take the leather, the goat leather.
689
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:55,690
They kill, you know, unfortunately, the goat,
and they lay it out, and they pound it out on
690
00:29:55,690 --> 00:29:56,190
stone.
691
00:29:56,970 --> 00:29:57,849
And, yeah.
692
00:29:58,409 --> 00:30:03,450
There's different levels to it, and Asher
actually has the triple-A Cabretta leather
693
00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:03,950
supply.
694
00:30:05,424 --> 00:30:05,744
Yeah.
695
00:30:05,744 --> 00:30:07,684
That's very close to the major leagues.
696
00:30:08,305 --> 00:30:10,545
So they just beat this goat on the rock.
697
00:30:10,545 --> 00:30:10,865
Yeah.
698
00:30:10,865 --> 00:30:11,265
Yep.
699
00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:12,305
That's how they get it out.
700
00:30:12,545 --> 00:30:12,865
That's just
701
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,680
We are definitely adding a goat sound to the
702
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,460
Yeah.
703
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,700
Just that sound right there, actually.
704
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,420
We're definitely gonna get Buttsy to record
some voices for us as well.
705
00:30:36,845 --> 00:30:37,804
Oh, dear lord.
706
00:30:37,804 --> 00:30:38,125
Oh, my God.
707
00:30:38,125 --> 00:30:41,484
How are we supposed to even move on from the
Suwanee segment after that?
708
00:30:41,484 --> 00:30:43,105
I think we stick right there.
709
00:30:43,244 --> 00:30:44,464
We should just stay
710
00:30:44,524 --> 00:30:47,424
on the Suwanee style segment for the rest of
the show.
711
00:30:48,009 --> 00:30:48,730
People love it.
712
00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:49,130
Let me know.
713
00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:50,349
What does the audience think?
714
00:30:50,569 --> 00:30:52,009
The audience yeah.
715
00:30:52,009 --> 00:30:52,490
Who knows?
716
00:30:52,569 --> 00:30:53,929
I mean, come on, audience.
717
00:30:53,929 --> 00:30:54,829
Where are you?
718
00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:59,529
Poor Trot is running a solo effort here with
all his comments.
719
00:30:59,529 --> 00:31:00,509
I love it, Trot.
720
00:31:00,605 --> 00:31:00,924
Hold on.
721
00:31:00,924 --> 00:31:01,164
Hold on.
722
00:31:01,164 --> 00:31:02,765
Do you feel like you wear a uniform?
723
00:31:02,765 --> 00:31:03,805
What's your pair of gloves like?
724
00:31:03,805 --> 00:31:04,684
It smells like okay.
725
00:31:04,684 --> 00:31:05,184
Sorry.
726
00:31:06,045 --> 00:31:07,164
Trot golfer does wanna know.
727
00:31:07,164 --> 00:31:09,484
I got or he not that he wants to know.
728
00:31:09,484 --> 00:31:12,065
He says he can smell that glove through the
phone.
729
00:31:12,365 --> 00:31:15,289
So got that going for you, which is nice.
730
00:31:15,349 --> 00:31:15,430
Now
731
00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:16,569
What?
732
00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,250
The Zozo Championship.
733
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:22,170
This is where our word association started with
good old Buttsy.
734
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:27,605
We got the Accordia Golf Narashino Country
Club.
735
00:31:27,605 --> 00:31:28,244
Well, I'm not
736
00:31:28,404 --> 00:31:33,144
Hoped in 1965 by Shinya Fujita.
737
00:31:33,924 --> 00:31:34,424
K?
738
00:31:34,884 --> 00:31:39,625
And that is a par 70 golf course, 7,079 yards.
739
00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,519
Tiger won this in 2019.
740
00:31:42,619 --> 00:31:44,140
There's the GOAT signal right there.
741
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:45,740
Every time we mention Tiger Woods.
742
00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:46,240
Yep.
743
00:31:47,180 --> 00:31:47,680
Yep.
744
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:51,440
We just need that need that on repeat right
there.
745
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:58,105
Now let's go and I'll I'll turn it over to you,
Brent, for Brent's breakdown of this golf
746
00:31:58,164 --> 00:32:00,345
tournament, the Zozo Championship.
747
00:32:02,244 --> 00:32:03,065
My goodness.
748
00:32:03,204 --> 00:32:06,329
Well, the first thing that these guys are gonna
have to battle is jet lag.
749
00:32:07,769 --> 00:32:13,450
Fortunately, a large percentage of the field is
probably already over there or has been over
750
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:14,809
there for a little while.
751
00:32:14,809 --> 00:32:22,884
But you need about three days of basically
getting back into a routine because it just, I
752
00:32:22,884 --> 00:32:25,204
think, it completely messes you up.
753
00:32:25,204 --> 00:32:29,845
I mean, it's at least a 10-hour trip for most
places in the States.
754
00:32:29,845 --> 00:32:37,929
So, yeah, I mean, when Tiger won, I think it
was kind of a chilly, kind of a wet and rainy
755
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,329
time, so weather is definitely gonna play a
factor.
756
00:32:40,329 --> 00:32:43,929
It's a different type of grass, which is
another thing these guys are gonna have to deal
757
00:32:43,929 --> 00:32:44,429
with.
758
00:32:45,625 --> 00:32:49,565
But I believe it's a shorter golf course, 7,000
yards tight.
759
00:32:50,505 --> 00:32:54,184
So it's really just about hitting fairways,
getting the right spot on the greens, and
760
00:32:54,345 --> 00:32:55,565
there's always making putts.
761
00:32:56,345 --> 00:33:02,269
I'm curious what your opinion is and, Buttsy,
what your opinion is around the fact that we're
762
00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:07,950
kinda in the middle of this season for the guys
that are not really in the top 50, and this
763
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:14,349
fall series that's been going on that gives
guys that are deeper in the rankings chances to
764
00:33:14,349 --> 00:33:16,794
compete and actually try to win golf
tournaments.
765
00:33:16,794 --> 00:33:21,115
And then all of a sudden, you throw in the Zozo
Championship, and now you get a lot of big
766
00:33:21,115 --> 00:33:22,474
names that are out there.
767
00:33:22,474 --> 00:33:27,835
And this is kind of a tournament where it's
more of a select field, I'll say, versus kind
768
00:33:27,835 --> 00:33:30,095
of that broader grouping of players.
769
00:33:34,029 --> 00:33:37,890
I mean, I don't really have words for it, to be
honest with you.
770
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:44,765
You're saying that so you're at the lesser
events, and then we throw in, like, a big one?
771
00:33:44,904 --> 00:33:45,144
Yeah.
772
00:33:45,144 --> 00:33:47,144
This is kind of a bigger event, I feel like.
773
00:33:47,144 --> 00:33:48,684
Help me understand what you mean.
774
00:33:48,744 --> 00:33:52,424
Well, it's a bigger event, and some of the top
players are playing in it.
775
00:33:52,424 --> 00:33:58,750
But, also, it goes by rankings where, you know,
a lot of players can't get into this tournament
776
00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,049
that are in the lower rankings.
777
00:34:00,990 --> 00:34:04,769
I mean, I'm just gonna completely pull this out
of my ass here for a little bit.
778
00:34:05,309 --> 00:34:10,784
I would imagine that's, like, a way to maybe
keep viewership, like, you know, I don't know.
779
00:34:10,784 --> 00:34:14,565
Keep people enticed this late into the season,
maybe.
780
00:34:14,944 --> 00:34:15,505
I don't know.
781
00:34:15,505 --> 00:34:17,204
I think that's what we've been doing.
782
00:34:18,065 --> 00:34:20,005
Well, well, we do that, obviously.
783
00:34:20,545 --> 00:34:24,269
We are the, the PGA Tour is, you know, is
beholden
784
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:25,610
to us.
785
00:34:25,610 --> 00:34:27,050
So yeah.
786
00:34:27,050 --> 00:34:29,050
I don't have a great answer to that question,
Matt.
787
00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:29,869
I do apologize.
788
00:34:30,010 --> 00:34:34,730
Usually, I'm pretty good at, man, manufacturing
one, but yeah.
789
00:34:34,809 --> 00:34:36,315
I I'm dry on that.
790
00:34:36,394 --> 00:34:36,954
He's got nothing.
791
00:34:36,954 --> 00:34:38,335
Brent, what about you, buddy?
792
00:34:38,474 --> 00:34:38,875
But tonight
793
00:34:40,714 --> 00:34:40,954
Yeah.
794
00:34:40,954 --> 00:34:45,355
I mean, if we could name, you know, half the
players in the field, it'd probably be great.
795
00:34:45,355 --> 00:34:46,954
But, yeah.
796
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:51,230
I mean, let's the bottom line is money talks.
797
00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:54,909
I don't know if you've got a cash cha-ching
there on
798
00:34:54,909 --> 00:34:57,150
your soundboard, but I wish I had it.
799
00:34:57,389 --> 00:35:02,030
That was all paid a pretty penny to be where
they're at, and that's and, hey, more power to
800
00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:02,530
us.
801
00:35:05,065 --> 00:35:05,565
That,
802
00:35:06,344 --> 00:35:08,765
I feel like Bewitched just entered the room.
803
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:10,105
I like that.
804
00:35:10,131 --> 00:35:10,184
It's the
805
00:35:12,425 --> 00:35:12,905
maybe.
806
00:35:12,905 --> 00:35:13,405
Magical.
807
00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:14,125
Interesting.
808
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:18,650
That's like doesn't get better with a more
play.
809
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:18,809
Yeah.
810
00:35:18,809 --> 00:35:21,389
Or anybody has, like, a real stuff about it.
811
00:35:27,449 --> 00:35:30,344
It's like a kid on Christmas I have a good
soundboard here.
812
00:35:30,344 --> 00:35:31,804
Dude, I'm I'm in love.
813
00:35:33,144 --> 00:35:34,204
Where do you go?
814
00:35:34,265 --> 00:35:37,065
Do the do the little no.
815
00:35:37,065 --> 00:35:37,885
The other one.
816
00:35:39,144 --> 00:35:39,644
No.
817
00:35:43,465 --> 00:35:43,965
Oh.
818
00:35:48,949 --> 00:35:49,849
Oh my god.
819
00:35:50,309 --> 00:35:51,429
It's like when you take
820
00:35:51,429 --> 00:35:52,969
our blind, it's just un equip.
821
00:35:53,989 --> 00:35:58,390
Folks, if you're listening to the podcast right
now, the podcast version without the video,
822
00:35:58,390 --> 00:36:06,994
man, you need to pop off the video on Spotify
or on YouTube, man, because there's some
823
00:36:06,994 --> 00:36:13,260
special stuff going on right now with facial
expressions and just tons of ideas are just
824
00:36:13,579 --> 00:36:14,460
forming right now.
825
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:20,559
This might be the episode that leads to just
soundboard greatness in the future.
826
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:22,699
I like soundboard a lot.
827
00:36:22,699 --> 00:36:23,199
Yeah.
828
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:24,460
I
829
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:27,119
And, you know, to get the people going.
830
00:36:27,179 --> 00:36:28,239
It really does.
831
00:36:32,244 --> 00:36:32,965
That's that.
832
00:36:32,965 --> 00:36:33,465
Okay.
833
00:36:33,684 --> 00:36:34,184
Alright.
834
00:36:34,805 --> 00:36:35,625
Going out.
835
00:36:37,045 --> 00:36:38,005
Hell of a take, Brent.
836
00:36:38,164 --> 00:36:38,885
Ask the question.
837
00:36:38,885 --> 00:36:39,765
Hell of a take.
838
00:36:39,765 --> 00:36:40,085
Okay.
839
00:36:40,085 --> 00:36:42,164
Let's go over the Aon Next 10 folks.
840
00:36:42,164 --> 00:36:49,170
We've been really getting into the Aon Next 10
lately, and literally, it is just a whole
841
00:36:49,469 --> 00:36:51,489
between 51st to 60th.
842
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:56,589
It's just very incestual right now to where
they're just moving around a little bit inside
843
00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:57,489
of each other.
844
00:36:58,204 --> 00:37:04,945
We've got Mackenzie Hughes in 51st, Harris
English in 52nd, good old Seamus Power in 53rd.
845
00:37:05,644 --> 00:37:05,965
Yeah.
846
00:37:05,965 --> 00:37:09,005
Gotta love some good old Seamus Power.
847
00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:12,065
54th is Patrick Rodgers.
848
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,359
55th is Maverick McNealy.
849
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,500
Then we got 56 with Tom Kim.
850
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,559
Tom Kim is falling down a bit.
851
00:37:19,699 --> 00:37:22,339
So that's, that's an interesting one.
852
00:37:22,339 --> 00:37:24,339
57th is Justin Rose.
853
00:37:24,339 --> 00:37:25,719
58th is Nick Taylor.
854
00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:28,885
Then we got the sleeper, Jake Knapp.
855
00:37:29,105 --> 00:37:31,905
And we got, number 60 with Kevin Yu.
856
00:37:31,905 --> 00:37:34,065
Lucas Glover did not move up at all.
857
00:37:34,065 --> 00:37:35,125
He's still in 61st.
858
00:37:36,065 --> 00:37:38,545
Maybe Tom Kim will learn karma's real.
859
00:37:38,545 --> 00:37:40,565
They act like a little bitch in the prison.
860
00:37:40,949 --> 00:37:41,449
Coupon.
861
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:42,170
Wow.
862
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:44,550
Calling out Tom Kim.
863
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:46,197
That's a great You can take him.
864
00:37:46,309 --> 00:37:46,710
Dude.
865
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:47,530
You can take him.
866
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:49,690
And down goes my score.
867
00:37:50,949 --> 00:37:51,449
Yeah.
868
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:53,130
Down in the rank.
869
00:37:53,335 --> 00:37:53,835
Yeah.
870
00:37:54,215 --> 00:37:56,074
Tom Kim until Yeah.
871
00:37:57,735 --> 00:37:58,215
Oh, where's
872
00:37:58,215 --> 00:38:00,855
the field analysis and betting odds, my
friends.
873
00:38:00,855 --> 00:38:05,574
We've got Xander Schauffele playing this week,
so, clearly, he's gonna be the favorite at plus
874
00:38:05,574 --> 00:38:06,074
450.
875
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:08,315
Got Collin Morikawa at plus 650.
876
00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:11,510
Hideki Matsuyama at 750.
877
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,550
Sungjae is at 1400.
878
00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:16,950
We got Sahith Theegala at 1800.
879
00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:18,630
Justin Thomas at 2000.
880
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:20,950
Kurt Kitayama, plus 22100.
881
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:21,494
Yeah.
882
00:38:21,494 --> 00:38:27,175
Can you believe Justin Thomas is playing, and
his wife is almost due for giving birth, and
883
00:38:27,175 --> 00:38:28,215
he's over in Japan.
884
00:38:28,215 --> 00:38:31,655
Is she a month away like Scottie Scheffler's
wife was?
885
00:38:31,655 --> 00:38:35,035
I think she's closer than Scottie's was.
886
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,980
I think she's due within a week or two.
887
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:38,839
Oh my gosh.
888
00:38:38,839 --> 00:38:39,319
Good luck
889
00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:39,719
to them.
890
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,819
And, yeah, we're still the best.
891
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:42,760
Love that for them.
892
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,039
I could be just spewing misinformation there as
well, so that's great.
893
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:47,179
It's not disinformation.
894
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:49,000
Fake
895
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,485
news.
896
00:38:49,565 --> 00:38:51,345
Kurt Kitayama, plus 22100.
897
00:38:51,644 --> 00:38:53,425
Min Woo Lee at plus 28100.
898
00:38:54,045 --> 00:38:57,345
Beau Hossler, Will Zalatoris, Si Woo Kim at
plus 35100.
899
00:38:58,125 --> 00:39:01,505
We got Maverick McNealy and Doug Ghim at plus
4000.
900
00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:02,670
J.J.
901
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:05,089
Spaun, one of Buttsy's favorites at plus 45100.
902
00:39:05,789 --> 00:39:09,730
Then we got good old Seamus Power once again
here with Tom Hoge.
903
00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:12,130
Max Homa, plus 5000.
904
00:39:12,190 --> 00:39:16,769
And then we kinda round it out with Eric Cole
and Max Kieffer at plus 55100.
905
00:39:17,344 --> 00:39:18,724
I turn it to you, Buttsy.
906
00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:20,484
Who's your pick for the week?
907
00:39:20,704 --> 00:39:21,424
This is tough.
908
00:39:21,424 --> 00:39:22,784
I feel like Tiger Woods.
909
00:39:22,944 --> 00:39:29,984
Anybody with a last name with Kim, Lee, or Yama
at the end of it has a pretty good chance that
910
00:39:29,984 --> 00:39:32,159
they're gonna probably play pretty good here.
911
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,400
And, yeah.
912
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,780
I'm going with Hideki.
913
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:36,900
Hideki?
914
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:37,920
Hideki.
915
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:38,400
To the
916
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,019
east, to the Yama.
917
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:40,319
Okay.
918
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,119
Kim Lee.
919
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:41,619
Yeah.
920
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,119
Try calling for once.
921
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:43,280
No.
922
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,639
Do you have to pick an Asian this week?
923
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:45,940
It is part of the prerequisite.
924
00:39:46,319 --> 00:39:46,719
Yeah.
925
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,944
Well, I I just that's like yes.
926
00:39:49,025 --> 00:39:53,284
Saying, you know, am I gonna win at the sushi
bar or at Texas Roadhouse?
927
00:39:53,505 --> 00:39:57,025
Like probably.
928
00:39:57,025 --> 00:39:57,525
Probably.
929
00:39:57,744 --> 00:39:58,304
Come on.
930
00:39:58,304 --> 00:39:59,744
Let's don't sell your shells.
931
00:39:59,744 --> 00:40:02,704
I'll take food out of the motherfucking
equation and it'd be fair.
932
00:40:02,704 --> 00:40:03,480
You know what I mean?
933
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,739
pick is, Tom.
934
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:08,539
Oh, Jesus.
935
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:09,739
You got Hogue?
936
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,280
No.
937
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,440
No.
938
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,599
No.
939
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,699
That's anti-LIV's pick this week.
940
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,019
And that was Trot going with?
941
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,639
Yeah.
942
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,054
Who is Trot going with?
943
00:40:17,135 --> 00:40:17,954
It says Zach
944
00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:19,375
Oh, yeah.
945
00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:20,034
He did.
946
00:40:21,694 --> 00:40:23,714
So, Brent, who you got this week?
947
00:40:24,335 --> 00:40:25,554
Oh my god.
948
00:40:26,014 --> 00:40:29,934
Anybody with the armor, aura, any sort of like
that?
949
00:40:29,934 --> 00:40:32,675
Armor, E.B., Kim Kim.
950
00:40:35,050 --> 00:40:35,710
Oh, hell.
951
00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:39,949
You know, I'll go with, I think Colin Morikawa
actually won this.
952
00:40:40,329 --> 00:40:42,510
You stole my pick.
953
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:43,530
I forgot about it.
954
00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:44,010
That's a good one.
955
00:40:44,090 --> 00:40:45,789
With the Colin Morikawa.
956
00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:47,054
That's a good one.
957
00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:48,755
He's all very good.
958
00:40:48,894 --> 00:40:54,914
I am gonna go just because you stole my pick, I
am gonna go with Min Woo Lee this week.
959
00:40:55,534 --> 00:40:56,034
Mhmm.
960
00:40:56,255 --> 00:40:57,554
Good old Min Woo.
961
00:40:58,175 --> 00:40:59,474
Could be a huge mistake.
962
00:41:00,699 --> 00:41:03,340
If then Xander Schauffele is in the field.
963
00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:04,079
He is.
964
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:04,640
Yeah.
965
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:07,440
Well, we can't go with the most obvious one.
966
00:41:07,739 --> 00:41:08,619
I just feel like no.
967
00:41:08,619 --> 00:41:09,739
He's definitely not playing.
968
00:41:09,739 --> 00:41:13,039
I really loved the Colin Morikawa pick.
969
00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:15,515
So I'm just gonna say that.
970
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,434
It's good.
971
00:41:17,434 --> 00:41:17,675
Would
972
00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:21,375
you pick would you take Long Hard Banger if you
got a sponsorship exemption?
973
00:41:21,755 --> 00:41:24,015
It's a long, you know, long, zig, and anchor.
974
00:41:25,115 --> 00:41:25,695
Oh, no.
975
00:41:25,914 --> 00:41:29,615
Kyle over at the Garp Barn Guys chimes in with
Luke List is the winner.
976
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:31,369
Kyle Maze, everybody.
977
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:35,750
Now he did have a spirit call, like, a month
ago or some shit.
978
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:36,190
He did.
979
00:41:36,389 --> 00:41:37,609
Where he was correct.
980
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:39,750
And I don't even think he meant to be.
981
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:40,949
Let's talk about that.
982
00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:42,224
I think it was a joke.
983
00:41:42,385 --> 00:41:42,625
Yeah.
984
00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:48,065
Well, we're pretty sure it was a joke he threw
out there, and it ended up that player ended up
985
00:41:48,065 --> 00:41:48,565
winning.
986
00:41:49,265 --> 00:41:51,905
We talked about Mossbrucker's comment there.
987
00:41:51,905 --> 00:41:52,704
That's interesting.
988
00:41:52,704 --> 00:41:52,945
Yeah.
989
00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:57,869
Will Zalatoris ever gonna be good again, or did
the injury bug wreck him?
990
00:41:57,869 --> 00:41:58,269
Well, can
991
00:41:58,269 --> 00:42:00,130
you figure out a question for me right now?
992
00:42:00,269 --> 00:42:01,250
How's that feel?
993
00:42:02,429 --> 00:42:03,250
I don't know.
994
00:42:03,309 --> 00:42:03,809
What?
995
00:42:04,269 --> 00:42:04,989
The back is the
996
00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:07,409
one thing you never wanna mess with as a
golfer.
997
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:09,824
Is that what's going on with what was out here?
998
00:42:09,984 --> 00:42:10,224
Yeah.
999
00:42:10,224 --> 00:42:13,844
He had that, the fusion surgery, right, in the
lower back?
1000
00:42:14,545 --> 00:42:14,784
Yeah.
1001
00:42:14,784 --> 00:42:16,864
I rode in the middle seat all the way here
today.
1002
00:42:16,864 --> 00:42:17,764
I know exactly.
1003
00:42:18,065 --> 00:42:19,605
It's not fucking good.
1004
00:42:20,464 --> 00:42:22,005
I'm in a wheelchair right now.
1005
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:23,670
So what do you think?
1006
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:25,690
You ever think he's gonna be good again?
1007
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:35,030
That's tough because he was kinda right at that
mid fiery, like, starting to peak, and then all
1008
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:35,929
that just disappears.
1009
00:42:35,989 --> 00:42:37,190
You get a couple years older.
1010
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:37,815
And now what?
1011
00:42:37,815 --> 00:42:38,054
I mean,
1012
00:42:38,054 --> 00:42:41,835
he was finishing top five in every major up
until the back injury.
1013
00:42:43,014 --> 00:42:43,335
Yeah.
1014
00:42:43,335 --> 00:42:44,155
That's tough.
1015
00:42:44,534 --> 00:42:45,835
What do you think, Matt?
1016
00:42:46,214 --> 00:42:47,335
I think he will.
1017
00:42:47,335 --> 00:42:50,474
I think it takes a long time to recover from
that back injury.
1018
00:42:50,934 --> 00:42:52,875
I mean, if you look at yeah.
1019
00:42:53,369 --> 00:42:57,369
So if you look at Tiger Woods for instance,
Tiger's kind of a prime example.
1020
00:42:57,369 --> 00:42:58,750
Had a million back surgeries.
1021
00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:05,769
You look at how long did it take Tiger to get
back into form, and it took him a couple years
1022
00:43:05,769 --> 00:43:09,434
in order to get back from the actual back
injury.
1023
00:43:09,974 --> 00:43:13,195
And I just think Willie Z, like, he's
1024
00:43:14,054 --> 00:43:16,855
He was 38, by the way, on the FedEx Cup this
year.
1025
00:43:16,855 --> 00:43:17,014
Yeah.
1026
00:43:17,014 --> 00:43:20,940
I mean, it's not like he played terrible in
coming back.
1027
00:43:21,019 --> 00:43:25,179
I just think it's gonna take him a little bit
to get back to that form to where he's
1028
00:43:25,179 --> 00:43:26,539
potentially a top 10 player in
1029
00:43:26,539 --> 00:43:27,199
the world.
1030
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:28,159
Is he healed?
1031
00:43:28,859 --> 00:43:29,359
Yeah.
1032
00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:30,219
Yeah.
1033
00:43:30,219 --> 00:43:36,944
I saw him in Nashville, and he was hitting it
great, feeling great.
1034
00:43:36,944 --> 00:43:38,964
I think he's felt that way for a long time.
1035
00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:46,304
We played a practice round together, shoot,
almost two years ago when he was fresh off the
1036
00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:51,550
kind of, I guess, he was not on the injured
reserve or anything like that, but had just
1037
00:43:51,550 --> 00:43:55,070
come off of a huge break and he said he was
feeling good then.
1038
00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:56,989
So, I mean, he's had two years to do it.
1039
00:43:56,989 --> 00:44:02,364
He placed in the top 10 three times this year,
and obviously played well enough to
1040
00:44:02,364 --> 00:44:04,284
be 38 in the overall ranking.
1041
00:44:04,284 --> 00:44:07,644
So, when you put it that way, though, that's a
good point.
1042
00:44:07,644 --> 00:44:09,824
So now, like, my opinion completely changes.
1043
00:44:10,204 --> 00:44:10,444
Yeah.
1044
00:44:10,444 --> 00:44:11,324
I mean, what's good?
1045
00:44:11,324 --> 00:44:11,724
Right?
1046
00:44:11,724 --> 00:44:17,369
I mean, think that he doesn't win or was that I
mean, most professionals go their entire career
1047
00:44:17,369 --> 00:44:18,570
without winning a single tournament.
1048
00:44:18,570 --> 00:44:23,610
Well, I think Willie Z was betting towards
being a part of that elite class of, like, the
1049
00:44:23,610 --> 00:44:30,545
top 10 players that could win multiple times
every single year, and that's the trend that
1050
00:44:30,545 --> 00:44:31,265
we're looking at.
1051
00:44:31,265 --> 00:44:36,724
I mean, we also have to take into consideration
too that he did revamp his entire golf swing.
1052
00:44:37,105 --> 00:44:39,989
So he does not have the same move that he
previously had.
1053
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:41,449
Is he playing this week?
1054
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:42,170
Yes.
1055
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:44,809
I'm putting money on him tonight.
1056
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:45,849
There you go.
1057
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:47,030
Love that, Jeff.
1058
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:52,309
You led Buttsy to putting in some money on some
good old Will Zalatoris this week.
1059
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:52,710
Love that.
1060
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:55,364
Can we can we I mean, what's what's good?
1061
00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:55,764
Right?
1062
00:44:55,764 --> 00:44:58,485
Like I think there's levels, Brent.
1063
00:44:58,485 --> 00:44:59,125
What does that mean?
1064
00:44:59,125 --> 00:44:59,844
What does that mean?
1065
00:44:59,844 --> 00:45:01,364
Like, I think there's levels to it.
1066
00:45:01,364 --> 00:45:04,644
I think there is, you know, you got your top 10
guys.
1067
00:45:04,644 --> 00:45:09,949
Those are guys that you expect to win on a
yearly basis at least once, but these are guys
1068
00:45:09,949 --> 00:45:11,409
that can win multiple times.
1069
00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:18,589
Then you've got kind of your core top names,
right, that are kind of from 10 to, let's say,
1070
00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:19,089
40.
1071
00:45:19,549 --> 00:45:24,704
And then from there, you've got guys that are
talented enough, but they need to get hot at
1072
00:45:24,704 --> 00:45:26,144
the right time in order to win.
1073
00:45:26,144 --> 00:45:29,204
And that's pretty much everybody else on the
PGA Tour in my opinion.
1074
00:45:29,345 --> 00:45:35,025
So you kind of have this group, and that's
where I think Will Zalatoris was becoming part
1075
00:45:35,025 --> 00:45:41,190
of that group that you expected him to win on a
yearly basis, if not more than once and
1076
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:43,110
especially when it came to the majors.
1077
00:45:43,110 --> 00:45:43,929
I mean, shit.
1078
00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:49,829
The guy finished second at the Masters his very
first year playing the Masters, and then I
1079
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:56,144
believe finished top 5 or top 10 the following
year and then had to withdraw the third year.
1080
00:45:56,144 --> 00:46:02,065
But, again, Will Zalatoris, he was trending in
that direction, and that's why I think there's
1081
00:46:02,065 --> 00:46:02,565
expectations.
1082
00:46:03,105 --> 00:46:04,464
But once again, I'll say it.
1083
00:46:04,464 --> 00:46:05,184
Expectations are
1084
00:46:05,184 --> 00:46:06,324
the killers of dreams.
1085
00:46:06,784 --> 00:46:07,605
They are.
1086
00:46:07,664 --> 00:46:08,219
They are.
1087
00:46:08,219 --> 00:46:08,699
I don't know, Buttsy.
1088
00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:09,500
What do you think?
1089
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:10,219
What's good?
1090
00:46:10,219 --> 00:46:12,000
What, what is considered good?
1091
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:14,960
Oh, man.
1092
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:21,119
I mean, I reference Paddy P all the time for,
for his tour career.
1093
00:46:21,179 --> 00:46:22,400
I think that's good.
1094
00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:29,934
I think, I think if you can consistently make a
living at the highest level, you're pretty
1095
00:46:29,934 --> 00:46:33,135
fucking good, for an extended period.
1096
00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:38,355
If you can have a career in golf at the highest
level on the highest stage, you're good.
1097
00:46:38,969 --> 00:46:40,489
Like, you're fucking good.
1098
00:46:40,489 --> 00:46:43,469
So half, half of Buttsy's face feels that way.
1099
00:46:44,570 --> 00:46:44,969
What?
1100
00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:46,030
It's over clear.
1101
00:46:46,329 --> 00:46:46,829
Cameras.
1102
00:46:49,449 --> 00:46:51,210
See about it's fucked right now.
1103
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:51,609
I'm trying
1104
00:46:52,090 --> 00:46:52,889
you gotta understand.
1105
00:46:52,889 --> 00:46:57,234
I'm, like, literally, like, half laying on this
table because it's fucking terrible.
1106
00:46:58,174 --> 00:46:58,674
Fuck.
1107
00:47:00,014 --> 00:47:01,474
Oh, oh, hang on.
1108
00:47:01,534 --> 00:47:02,514
Go ahead again.
1109
00:47:08,539 --> 00:47:09,519
Oh, it's great time.
1110
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:10,960
There we go.
1111
00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:11,900
There we go.
1112
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:12,539
Good time.
1113
00:47:12,539 --> 00:47:13,820
Well, flaps.
1114
00:47:13,820 --> 00:47:14,320
Flaps.
1115
00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:15,119
Well done.
1116
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:19,680
Folks, we are like little kids in a candy store
right now with the soundboard.
1117
00:47:21,234 --> 00:47:21,715
I love it.
1118
00:47:21,715 --> 00:47:22,434
Absolutely love it.
1119
00:47:22,434 --> 00:47:23,315
What about you, Brent?
1120
00:47:23,315 --> 00:47:25,094
What what is good to you?
1121
00:47:25,554 --> 00:47:29,474
Especially being a guy that has played on the
PGA Tour, has played on the Korn Ferry Tour.
1122
00:47:29,474 --> 00:47:32,675
I mean, tell us what you think is good.
1123
00:47:32,675 --> 00:47:33,655
What's good?
1124
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,090
What's got bad?
1125
00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:44,430
I think I think to to pay respect to to Jeff's
question, obviously, you know, like you said,
1126
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:46,050
the the expectation of winning.
1127
00:47:46,269 --> 00:47:46,769
Right?
1128
00:47:48,434 --> 00:47:55,235
But from the average viewer, right, good,
that's that's all that matters, is is whether
1129
00:47:55,235 --> 00:48:00,994
or not they're competing to win or they're
winning, and that's considered a high level of
1130
00:48:00,994 --> 00:48:01,494
play.
1131
00:48:01,635 --> 00:48:01,954
Right?
1132
00:48:01,954 --> 00:48:06,589
That's considered, oh, well, they're they're
playing good because they're, you know or
1133
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:09,889
they're a great player or they're a good player
because they're winning or whatever.
1134
00:48:11,549 --> 00:48:19,555
Now, unfortunately, and and like most times,
what the average viewer thinks is not is not
1135
00:48:19,555 --> 00:48:20,914
really based in in reality.
1136
00:48:20,914 --> 00:48:25,875
It's just kinda what they see on TV and they
kind of base their expectations off that.
1137
00:48:25,875 --> 00:48:27,954
Not that there's necessarily anything wrong
with that.
1138
00:48:27,954 --> 00:48:36,329
But if you, for example, place 20th on the PGA
Tour and you make $85,000 to $90,000, did you
1139
00:48:36,329 --> 00:48:37,469
put good that week?
1140
00:48:38,650 --> 00:48:42,190
Probably pretty good considering there's 156
players in the field.
1141
00:48:42,409 --> 00:48:42,809
Right?
1142
00:48:42,809 --> 00:48:44,889
But you never got any TV time.
1143
00:48:44,889 --> 00:48:46,650
You you you got a few points.
1144
00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:47,235
You know?
1145
00:48:47,715 --> 00:48:54,434
But if you do that for 15 tournaments, that's
really good because that's obviously really
1146
00:48:54,434 --> 00:48:59,075
high-level, consistent play across multiple
courses across the whole year and all that
1147
00:48:59,075 --> 00:48:59,635
other stuff.
1148
00:48:59,635 --> 00:49:05,630
So the issue is, like you said, expectations of
Will Zalatoris are always gonna be very high,
1149
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:11,610
but I can tell you based on those conversations
with him, he's chomping at the bit.
1150
00:49:11,610 --> 00:49:17,755
So I would be on the lookout for Will to win
very, very soon, within probably the next six
1151
00:49:17,755 --> 00:49:18,255
months.
1152
00:49:18,554 --> 00:49:19,054
Will?
1153
00:49:19,755 --> 00:49:20,255
Will.
1154
00:49:20,394 --> 00:49:21,134
Love that.
1155
00:49:23,034 --> 00:49:23,355
Hope to
1156
00:49:23,355 --> 00:49:24,335
see the glove manufacturing.
1157
00:49:24,394 --> 00:49:25,755
They do make a right-handed
1158
00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:27,090
cadet glove that's called
1159
00:49:29,570 --> 00:49:30,210
PXG.
1160
00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:31,170
Number one, prayer
1161
00:49:31,170 --> 00:49:31,829
in the work.
1162
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:33,989
They have a right-hand cadet.
1163
00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:35,430
Beautiful.
1164
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:38,469
You should do a whole podcast in the Asian
accent.
1165
00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:38,849
No.
1166
00:49:38,849 --> 00:49:39,250
Yep.
1167
00:49:39,250 --> 00:49:40,210
Oh, we should ask you
1168
00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:40,815
soon, man.
1169
00:49:41,295 --> 00:49:44,434
From a mud mold of Bob Parsons' right foot.
1170
00:49:47,135 --> 00:49:52,574
That is another perfect segue into the LIV Golf
updates, folks.
1171
00:49:52,574 --> 00:49:54,114
You gonna could that help?
1172
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:54,960
It's
1173
00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:58,400
and LIV Golf updates.
1174
00:49:59,660 --> 00:50:02,000
We've got players.
1175
00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:02,619
Okay.
1176
00:50:02,619 --> 00:50:06,460
This I actually found this to be really
interesting, and I had to make some phone calls
1177
00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:09,364
today in order to get down to the bottom of
this.
1178
00:50:09,364 --> 00:50:14,344
But players right now that were not in the drop
or not in the relegation zone.
1179
00:50:14,724 --> 00:50:16,585
So they were in the open zone.
1180
00:50:17,764 --> 00:50:23,550
We have our first player that's been released
and his contract is not being renewed.
1181
00:50:23,929 --> 00:50:24,670
I'll play.
1182
00:50:24,809 --> 00:50:26,030
That is go ahead.
1183
00:50:26,090 --> 00:50:27,789
Why don't you give it a guess?
1184
00:50:27,929 --> 00:50:28,570
I'll play.
1185
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:29,130
I'm sorry.
1186
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:29,929
Go ahead, Brent.
1187
00:50:29,929 --> 00:50:30,010
No.
1188
00:50:30,010 --> 00:50:30,329
I no.
1189
00:50:30,329 --> 00:50:30,730
I didn't.
1190
00:50:30,809 --> 00:50:30,969
No.
1191
00:50:30,969 --> 00:50:32,109
Who do you think it is?
1192
00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:34,170
Well, I don't have to think because you are
1193
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:35,289
Oh, you already know.
1194
00:50:35,289 --> 00:50:35,789
Okay.
1195
00:50:36,114 --> 00:50:41,335
So it is Eugenio Chacarra who—no, Sergio
Garcia.
1196
00:50:41,555 --> 00:50:43,894
So he won in the first year of LIV Golf.
1197
00:50:44,515 --> 00:50:45,635
And really?
1198
00:50:45,635 --> 00:50:45,875
Yeah.
1199
00:50:45,875 --> 00:50:46,355
He did.
1200
00:50:46,355 --> 00:50:53,679
He had a win over in—gosh, was it, it was the
Asian one, Singapore, I believe.
1201
00:50:53,739 --> 00:50:58,699
One of those that they played over, and he
ended up winning.
1202
00:50:58,699 --> 00:51:03,039
And then this year, he finished 39th overall.
1203
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:08,954
So he only had one top ten in 2024, but he was
safe.
1204
00:51:09,094 --> 00:51:09,594
Right?
1205
00:51:09,894 --> 00:51:16,614
However, you are not safe anymore if you are in
that open zone, which Sergio Garcia is like,
1206
00:51:16,614 --> 00:51:17,015
nope.
1207
00:51:17,015 --> 00:51:17,835
Sorry, dude.
1208
00:51:18,054 --> 00:51:19,515
Not renewing your contract.
1209
00:51:20,219 --> 00:51:25,500
And that leads into the next question, which
is, is this a trend that we're gonna continue
1210
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:29,820
to see, especially this year where most
contracts are expiring?
1211
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:32,800
So remember, a lot of these guys got three-year
deals.
1212
00:51:33,195 --> 00:51:36,414
Some of them got less and they've already
renewed and so forth.
1213
00:51:37,035 --> 00:51:41,515
But these guys, let me give some context here.
1214
00:51:41,515 --> 00:51:50,230
So as I was talking to several insiders about
this, they've stated that LIV is not going to
1215
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:54,489
continue to provide these lucrative contracts
to players.
1216
00:51:54,789 --> 00:51:56,409
This is now the team's responsibility.
1217
00:51:57,429 --> 00:52:04,074
So the captains that were given 25% equity in
the team, guess what?
1218
00:52:04,215 --> 00:52:06,054
They've gotta come up with the contracts.
1219
00:52:06,054 --> 00:52:07,514
They've gotta pay them.
1220
00:52:08,135 --> 00:52:10,635
And so this leads to a whole new dynamic.
1221
00:52:11,255 --> 00:52:18,320
So I wonder, is this going to be the trend that
we're gonna see moving forward where some guys
1222
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,480
that are not in LIV right now, and what's gonna
happen to these guys that are outside of LIV?
1223
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,500
So, Brent, I'll start with you, man.
1224
00:52:25,755 --> 00:52:26,255
Wow.
1225
00:52:27,034 --> 00:52:29,934
I mean, as per usual, I didn't know any of
that.
1226
00:52:30,795 --> 00:52:40,170
You know, I hear whispers about what happens on
the LIV tour and, yeah, I mean, the tough part
1227
00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:46,730
about that is the moment that you put all of
these decisions amongst guys that have never
1228
00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:48,269
really had to manage people.
1229
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:56,744
They've never really had to lead people
necessarily, you know, over a long period of
1230
00:52:56,744 --> 00:53:01,224
time and had to make decisions that could
theoretically put somebody in a position where
1231
00:53:01,785 --> 00:53:02,925
they don't have a job.
1232
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:07,019
And those decisions are very difficult to make,
obviously.
1233
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,340
Sergio had no problem making that.
1234
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,179
This fellow Spaniard.
1235
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,280
Yeah.
1236
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,119
That's the hip yeah.
1237
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:15,675
That's he might be making.
1238
00:53:15,675 --> 00:53:15,914
Yeah.
1239
00:53:15,914 --> 00:53:19,675
Jon Rahm might consolidate his team and just
feel like packing it in, and then he goes,
1240
00:53:19,675 --> 00:53:21,215
plays with Garcia.
1241
00:53:21,275 --> 00:53:21,934
Who knows?
1242
00:53:22,795 --> 00:53:29,530
But, yeah, I think what you're gonna end up
seeing is you're gonna see some of these
1243
00:53:29,530 --> 00:53:34,650
bigger-name guys that do have the ability to
bring in that kind of investment from outside
1244
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:35,150
companies.
1245
00:53:35,769 --> 00:53:41,945
What you're gonna see is them hiring people
essentially that either, a, really fit the
1246
00:53:41,945 --> 00:53:46,905
team, and that would probably be their first
priority, and then, b, as a second priority
1247
00:53:46,905 --> 00:53:48,364
that don't cost too much.
1248
00:53:50,585 --> 00:53:54,824
It's just it's a it's a it's a shit show, and I
don't I don't envy any of those guys.
1249
00:53:54,824 --> 00:54:00,289
I gotta make those decisions, but I will
happily put my name in the hat for, to replace
1250
00:54:00,289 --> 00:54:01,750
whoever that guy was.
1251
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:03,889
Antilive just asked a question.
1252
00:54:03,889 --> 00:54:06,529
Are LIV teams their own legal entity now?
1253
00:54:06,529 --> 00:54:08,389
And the answer to that is yes.
1254
00:54:08,449 --> 00:54:10,469
They're technically their own franchises.
1255
00:54:11,082 --> 00:54:12,734
franchises like a baseball club.
1256
00:54:12,734 --> 00:54:13,234
Exactly.
1257
00:54:13,534 --> 00:54:15,614
So, Buttsy, what's your take on it?
1258
00:54:15,614 --> 00:54:18,194
You think this is something that we're gonna
see a lot more of?
1259
00:54:18,574 --> 00:54:22,114
Well, did these guys know this the whole time?
1260
00:54:22,655 --> 00:54:27,929
I don't believe it was super clear to these
players that this is where it was heading
1261
00:54:27,929 --> 00:54:33,849
because this is the first year that we've had
this open zone, so to speak, to where teams can
1262
00:54:33,849 --> 00:54:36,510
drop players if they don't feel like they
performed.
1263
00:54:36,650 --> 00:54:40,335
And granted these contracts are coming up, so
it's like, okay.
1264
00:54:40,414 --> 00:54:47,375
Do I re-sign Eugenio Chacarra to and who knows
what those negotiations were, right, between
1265
00:54:47,375 --> 00:54:52,835
him and Sergio or his agent and Sergio or
whoever's running the Fireballs team?
1266
00:54:54,014 --> 00:54:55,474
These are things that are interesting.
1267
00:54:56,019 --> 00:54:58,260
But I think it's gonna be just like a baseball
club.
1268
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:05,619
Like, if it continues down this path, these
owners, these team owners are going to hire
1269
00:55:05,619 --> 00:55:07,875
managers and, like, yeah.
1270
00:55:08,275 --> 00:55:09,554
It'll work itself out that way.
1271
00:55:09,554 --> 00:55:12,135
They're gonna manage it like they would any
other team.
1272
00:55:12,434 --> 00:55:18,934
So they're gonna pay guys to do statistics and
come in and manage and coach and fire.
1273
00:55:19,715 --> 00:55:20,195
Interesting.
1274
00:55:20,195 --> 00:55:21,795
I mean, just like any business would.
1275
00:55:21,795 --> 00:55:22,275
Right?
1276
00:55:22,275 --> 00:55:22,769
Yeah.
1277
00:55:22,769 --> 00:55:23,489
And that's the key.
1278
00:55:23,489 --> 00:55:25,730
I mean, they gotta be able to generate revenue.
1279
00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:27,890
They gotta be able to pay the players.
1280
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:30,150
They need to make sure that they're making
money.
1281
00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:36,610
And I found it pretty interesting around a lot
of this that is starting to transform and take
1282
00:55:36,610 --> 00:55:38,505
place with LIV Golf.
1283
00:55:38,505 --> 00:55:43,164
And TrotGolfer wants to know what about Bubba
Watson, who is the captain of the RangeGoats,
1284
00:55:43,304 --> 00:55:44,925
but he was in the drop zone.
1285
00:55:45,144 --> 00:55:54,219
So I've been told that with Bubba, it is not
100% certain how Greg Norman is kinda working
1286
00:55:54,219 --> 00:56:01,039
this entire thing out with the captains because
last year, captains couldn't be relegated.
1287
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:05,474
This year, they could, and Bubba Watson ended
up in that relegation mode.
1288
00:56:05,635 --> 00:56:10,934
So I don't know if he's gotta go back and try
to requalify through the tournament or not.
1289
00:56:11,235 --> 00:56:15,715
It would be like an owner-player, right, in the
big leagues.
1290
00:56:15,715 --> 00:56:21,929
Like, if you no longer possess the skill to be
playing on the team, like, you still own, but
1291
00:56:21,929 --> 00:56:23,150
you're not on the field.
1292
00:56:23,210 --> 00:56:23,449
Right.
1293
00:56:23,449 --> 00:56:25,530
That's where I think it's gonna head with Bubba
Watson.
1294
00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:29,630
I think he—I don't even know if he's gonna try
to qualify.
1295
00:56:29,929 --> 00:56:30,409
Pocket.
1296
00:56:30,409 --> 00:56:30,890
Yeah.
1297
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:31,390
Yeah.
1298
00:56:32,090 --> 00:56:37,335
Could he—I mean, I guess let me see how to
phrase this.
1299
00:56:37,335 --> 00:56:45,914
Is it possible that a lot of these things
actually take away from like, because I mean,
1300
00:56:45,974 --> 00:56:52,789
it almost adds a layer of just—it seems to be
very, very complicated.
1301
00:56:52,930 --> 00:57:01,010
I mean, there's just a constant amount of these
changes and rules and differences year to year,
1302
00:57:01,010 --> 00:57:04,070
and I understand they're trying to figure
things out and whatnot.
1303
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:08,614
But, I mean, is it that the PIF has pretty much
said, you know what?
1304
00:57:08,614 --> 00:57:13,094
We're not gonna fork over the, you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars that it costs
1305
00:57:13,094 --> 00:57:19,099
to travel, you know, five, six guys, you know,
for 13 teams or whatever it is, and they just
1306
00:57:19,099 --> 00:57:19,980
decided, hey.
1307
00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:20,539
You know what?
1308
00:57:20,539 --> 00:57:25,340
We're done spending the money on you guys, and
you guys gotta do it yourselves.
1309
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:27,019
Is that kinda what you're hearing?
1310
00:57:27,019 --> 00:57:27,179
Or
1311
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:28,140
It is.
1312
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:32,795
It's kinda where, you know, PIF wanted to work
out a deal with the PGA Tour.
1313
00:57:32,795 --> 00:57:37,934
PGA Tour has been reluctant in terms of getting
that deal done and hasn't been able to.
1314
00:57:38,074 --> 00:57:41,934
So PIF now, they're at the end of the three
years.
1315
00:57:41,994 --> 00:57:42,315
Right?
1316
00:57:42,315 --> 00:57:44,815
That was what all these initial contracts were.
1317
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:47,699
So it's like, okay, we brought over these guys.
1318
00:57:47,699 --> 00:57:52,280
We've signed big names so that you could have
additional players and so forth.
1319
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:58,255
Now it's up to you as the team captains and
owners to actually issue out contracts and to
1320
00:57:58,255 --> 00:57:59,155
pay these guys.
1321
00:57:59,534 --> 00:58:03,394
And you're supposed to be doing that through
your team earnings, through your individual
1322
00:58:03,534 --> 00:58:05,234
earnings that you're making.
1323
00:58:05,775 --> 00:58:11,909
And that's where I'm like, is this enough to
keep these guys to stay with LIV Golf?
1324
00:58:12,389 --> 00:58:17,670
Like, if you're a Bryson DeChambeau, for
instance, and which I that this might be the
1325
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:21,750
worst example because Bryson's pretty much LIV
Golf.
1326
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:24,389
Like, he is kinda known as LIV Golf right now.
1327
00:58:24,389 --> 00:58:24,710
Right?
1328
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:27,885
Him and Brooks Koepka are the two guys, so to
speak.
1329
00:58:28,125 --> 00:58:33,164
But is this enough to keep a Bryson there if
all of a sudden Bryson isn't gonna get another
1330
00:58:33,164 --> 00:58:34,304
massive contract?
1331
00:58:34,925 --> 00:58:35,885
He's like, oh, shit.
1332
00:58:35,885 --> 00:58:39,505
Like, what am I supposed to do?
1333
00:58:39,644 --> 00:58:43,344
Are they under are they obligated to be there?
1334
00:58:44,489 --> 00:58:45,289
That's the other thing.
1335
00:58:45,289 --> 00:58:48,989
Their contracts are done, but they are
technically owners of these franchises.
1336
00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:50,750
So I guess that's the incentive.
1337
00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:51,309
Right?
1338
00:58:51,369 --> 00:58:55,849
Like, when Jon Rahm's contract was talked about
with the
1339
00:58:57,369 --> 00:58:57,869
Right?
1340
00:58:58,215 --> 00:59:04,614
That also would like, part of that is the
equity from the team, and they valued that at
1341
00:59:04,614 --> 00:59:05,974
some magical number.
1342
00:59:06,295 --> 00:59:06,695
Interesting.
1343
00:59:06,775 --> 00:59:08,075
To be a part of that.
1344
00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:09,994
So that's where it's like, okay.
1345
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:11,190
Yeah.
1346
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:11,909
I'll do it.
1347
00:59:11,909 --> 00:59:15,349
Each of these guys have their equity in their
teams.
1348
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:20,010
Like, all the captains of the teams are the
owners of those teams.
1349
00:59:20,389 --> 00:59:21,269
So I think it would.
1350
00:59:21,269 --> 00:59:25,335
I think it'll work, but is LIV still gonna
like, who's gonna pay for the ballpark?
1351
00:59:25,335 --> 00:59:27,355
Like, is LIV still paying for the venue?
1352
00:59:27,414 --> 00:59:27,815
Yes.
1353
00:59:27,815 --> 00:59:30,215
LIV still is LIV still funding Yep.
1354
00:59:30,295 --> 00:59:31,655
You know, the person
1355
00:59:31,815 --> 00:59:32,535
and all that?
1356
00:59:32,535 --> 00:59:32,775
Yep.
1357
00:59:32,775 --> 00:59:34,055
They're still funding the purses.
1358
00:59:34,055 --> 00:59:37,289
They're still taking care of all that other
stuff.
1359
00:59:37,289 --> 00:59:42,650
But you got to imagine, like, if you're signing
somebody to your team, how much are you signing
1360
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:43,210
them for?
1361
00:59:43,210 --> 00:59:45,609
Like, these contracts aren't disclosed, by the
way.
1362
00:59:45,609 --> 00:59:50,589
So it's, like, when I'm digging into this
information, it's, like, okay.
1363
00:59:51,215 --> 00:59:51,695
Mhmm.
1364
00:59:51,695 --> 00:59:56,515
We gotta be hush-hush in regards to, like, who
they're signing and for how much.
1365
00:59:56,655 --> 01:00:02,414
But this is gonna be an interesting season for
us because we've got some insiders from the
1366
01:00:02,414 --> 01:00:07,519
agent side of things that we're gonna be able
to get some of this information before it's
1367
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:08,559
released and announced.
1368
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:14,719
So, like, we might end up knowing who Sergio
Garcia's teammate is before or who he ends up
1369
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:21,034
going with before it ever gets announced, and
we might actually know the actual contract
1370
01:00:21,094 --> 01:00:22,155
amounts as well.
1371
01:00:23,014 --> 01:00:24,074
I'm really cheap.
1372
01:00:24,215 --> 01:00:25,755
I've just put that out there.
1373
01:00:26,135 --> 01:00:26,954
Really cheap.
1374
01:00:27,574 --> 01:00:28,454
I mean, we gotta be great.
1375
01:00:29,014 --> 01:00:31,255
We gotta network and talk to the right people.
1376
01:00:31,255 --> 01:00:32,934
We gotta get this guy's name in the hat.
1377
01:00:32,934 --> 01:00:33,900
I think so now.
1378
01:00:34,619 --> 01:00:36,059
You know, not a bad idea.
1379
01:00:36,059 --> 01:00:37,099
Not a bad idea.
1380
01:00:37,099 --> 01:00:38,400
Let's go in there.
1381
01:00:38,859 --> 01:00:43,420
To back to your point, though, yeah, I think
this still works, man.
1382
01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:44,079
You know?
1383
01:00:44,699 --> 01:00:49,375
PGA Tour, you gotta be a top guy to make $5
million a year.
1384
01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:50,514
And there's no contracts.
1385
01:00:50,815 --> 01:00:54,175
So and on PGA Tour, that's something to
consider as well.
1386
01:00:54,175 --> 01:00:55,135
It's like, hey.
1387
01:00:55,135 --> 01:00:59,454
You're not guaranteed to if you give a guy 3
point if you say, hey.
1388
01:00:59,454 --> 01:01:02,550
I'll give you $3.5 million to come play on my
team for a year.
1389
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:06,309
And if we're fucking good and we raise a bunch
of money, then there'll be some incentive
1390
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:08,170
bonuses and stuff for you as well.
1391
01:01:09,110 --> 01:01:10,170
What do you say?
1392
01:01:10,469 --> 01:01:16,364
And if this guy is a fucking, you know, outside
of the top 50 on the PGA Tour.
1393
01:01:16,525 --> 01:01:17,045
Why would
1394
01:01:17,045 --> 01:01:17,324
you?
1395
01:01:17,324 --> 01:01:17,824
Yeah.
1396
01:01:18,125 --> 01:01:18,625
Yeah.
1397
01:01:18,684 --> 01:01:23,804
They're not gonna get $100 million like Rahm
and those guys did early on, but you don't need
1398
01:01:23,804 --> 01:01:27,664
$100 million to be swayed away from the PGA
Tour.
1399
01:01:27,804 --> 01:01:28,125
Yeah.
1400
01:01:28,125 --> 01:01:28,889
I agree with that.
1401
01:01:28,969 --> 01:01:29,409
And I agree.
1402
01:01:29,529 --> 01:01:35,150
The other question ends up becoming so since
they're positioning this and putting this onto
1403
01:01:36,089 --> 01:01:42,994
the captains of each of the teams, are they
gonna continue to try to bring over PGA Tour
1404
01:01:42,994 --> 01:01:44,035
players in the process?
1405
01:01:44,035 --> 01:01:50,675
So if this deal isn't struck with the PGA Tour,
are they gonna try to throw out $1 billion to a
1406
01:01:50,675 --> 01:01:52,275
Rory McIlroy, for instance?
1407
01:01:52,275 --> 01:01:54,530
That's the other thing that I'm not quite sure
of.
1408
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:56,769
Like, if you're a team owner and you're like,
hang on a second.
1409
01:01:56,769 --> 01:01:58,710
You signed me to this massive deal.
1410
01:01:59,170 --> 01:02:01,570
You are bringing this guy over.
1411
01:02:01,570 --> 01:02:04,929
Like, are they going to create a new franchise
and bring over more people?
1412
01:02:04,929 --> 01:02:10,484
That's gonna be an interesting part to this as
well, and we actually have a couple comments
1413
01:02:10,484 --> 01:02:12,025
here by Ben Hogan 1953.
1414
01:02:12,484 --> 01:02:14,085
I didn't know Ben Hogan was still alive.
1415
01:02:14,085 --> 01:02:14,824
That's great.
1416
01:02:14,885 --> 01:02:20,964
LIV supporters have long said that PIF can
afford to keep funding LIV in perpetuity and to
1417
01:02:20,964 --> 01:02:24,960
give them five, no, wait, now 10 years for
their plans to come to fruition.
1418
01:02:25,819 --> 01:02:31,099
The other side to this is why would PIF fund a
product that isn't producing a profit for 10
1419
01:02:31,099 --> 01:02:31,599
years?
1420
01:02:32,299 --> 01:02:33,359
That's a great question.
1421
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:36,255
I mean, I don't have an answer to that.
1422
01:02:36,255 --> 01:02:40,894
And, I mean, PIF is probably the only ones,
like, the board that's on PIF are probably the
1423
01:02:40,894 --> 01:02:44,255
only ones that could provide that specific
answer.
1424
01:02:44,255 --> 01:02:44,755
Probably.
1425
01:02:44,815 --> 01:02:47,635
But I don't think they're gonna let this die.
1426
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,699
Like, they're getting smarter in regards to how
much they're spending, though.
1427
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,139
They'll do it for fun.
1428
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,319
They'll do it for Yeah.
1429
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,880
An hour.
1430
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,380
Exactly.
1431
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:55,940
Yeah.
1432
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Yeah.
1433
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,559
I totally agree, Buttsy.
1434
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:11,085
I think the misconception is that there is some
sort of push there for profit to be made.
1435
01:03:11,945 --> 01:03:15,065
You know, these guys got 25% of their equity.
1436
01:03:15,065 --> 01:03:22,409
I guess where I get a little lost is if they've
got 25%, who's got the 75%?
1437
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:23,289
PIF.
1438
01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:23,909
Yeah.
1439
01:03:23,909 --> 01:03:27,349
So they want to, so here's the other side to
it, right?
1440
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:35,305
Is that, yes, the teams are responsible for the
contracts now, for negotiating that with the
1441
01:03:35,305 --> 01:03:38,605
individual players and everything to come onto
their team.
1442
01:03:38,664 --> 01:03:45,485
However, PIF being 75% owner, what they were
looking at is that they're going to try to sell
1443
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,579
the franchises at some point.
1444
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:54,219
And that gives the captain the ability to be a
minority owner at 25%, and then some big owner
1445
01:03:54,359 --> 01:03:55,659
will end up coming in.
1446
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:02,755
Basically, their ideal situation is what the
TGL has done, where they brought in the Fenway
1447
01:04:02,755 --> 01:04:03,074
Group.
1448
01:04:03,074 --> 01:04:10,035
They brought in, you know, all these different,
like Arthur Blank in Atlanta, and having all
1449
01:04:10,035 --> 01:04:14,375
these team owners that are responsible for all
of that and own the franchises.
1450
01:04:14,594 --> 01:04:20,530
So with PIF, eventually, they're hoping that
they can offload those franchises and make
1451
01:04:20,530 --> 01:04:21,910
their money back that way.
1452
01:04:22,610 --> 01:04:22,930
Yeah.
1453
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:24,050
Hogan just said it.
1454
01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:24,769
And yeah.
1455
01:04:24,769 --> 01:04:27,430
And that's what we've been talking about for
years.
1456
01:04:28,585 --> 01:04:37,825
Anybody that's ever been around business with
the Saudis should know that, should know that
1457
01:04:37,825 --> 01:04:39,305
that's exactly what they're trying to do.
1458
01:04:39,305 --> 01:04:40,425
They've done it with F1.
1459
01:04:40,425 --> 01:04:42,839
They've done it with football, soccer.
1460
01:04:43,539 --> 01:04:44,019
Football.
1461
01:04:44,019 --> 01:04:44,659
They've done it.
1462
01:04:44,739 --> 01:04:45,239
Football.
1463
01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:45,880
Football.
1464
01:04:46,739 --> 01:04:51,859
They've done it, they've attempted to do it
with tennis, and and a few other sports as
1465
01:04:51,859 --> 01:04:52,179
well.
1466
01:04:52,819 --> 01:04:58,555
But I think, again and I think that that's why
you know, to to answer to to at least attempt
1467
01:04:58,555 --> 01:05:03,695
to answer the the the question whether or not
they keep attempting to sign new talent,
1468
01:05:04,875 --> 01:05:13,949
they're gonna run into the same issue that the
PGA Tour has run into, which is that there's
1469
01:05:13,949 --> 01:05:20,349
not a superstar in every single class that
comes out of college, and that's it it there's
1470
01:05:20,349 --> 01:05:20,985
just not.
1471
01:05:21,945 --> 01:05:24,184
And that's not to say there aren't really good
players.
1472
01:05:24,184 --> 01:05:30,025
That's not to say that there aren't high level
elite players, but a superstar, somebody like a
1473
01:05:30,025 --> 01:05:37,929
Jon Rahm, somebody like a Rory McIlroy, you
know, are literally, you know, once every 10
1474
01:05:37,929 --> 01:05:39,050
years, maybe.
1475
01:05:39,050 --> 01:05:43,630
I mean, Rory's got Jon by, shoot, I I think at
least 10 years.
1476
01:05:44,489 --> 01:05:51,155
So, you know, to say that, you know, they're
gonna be able to keep the same level of player
1477
01:05:51,155 --> 01:05:54,295
coming in and out every year is gonna be very
difficult.
1478
01:05:54,355 --> 01:05:59,075
So, the only thing is, and I guess I would ask
this question to you guys and the viewers as
1479
01:05:59,075 --> 01:06:02,539
well, is that so let's say that the deal
doesn't get done.
1480
01:06:02,539 --> 01:06:02,860
Right?
1481
01:06:02,860 --> 01:06:08,559
Let's say that, you know, the Justice
Department or the PGA Tour or whatever happens
1482
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:12,719
that the deal never goes through.
1483
01:06:14,054 --> 01:06:21,594
You know, are we just basically stuck with the
TGL, LIV, and the PGA Tour being borderline
1484
01:06:21,655 --> 01:06:25,494
separate entities, and they're just kinda doing
their own thing, and you just got multiple
1485
01:06:25,494 --> 01:06:27,335
different types of golf to watch?
1486
01:06:27,335 --> 01:06:29,760
And then, you know, that's kinda it?
1487
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,460
Like, what do you guys think happens?
1488
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,500
Right.
1489
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,140
Yeah.
1490
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,920
It's that that's a yeah.
1491
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:44,385
But Barkley actually had a funny quote when
asked about this on a podcast on SiriusXM.
1492
01:06:45,724 --> 01:06:52,525
He was asked about, is it smart or something
along those lines for PIF and the PGA Tour to
1493
01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:53,264
stay separate?
1494
01:06:53,405 --> 01:06:55,105
He goes, these guys are idiots.
1495
01:06:55,889 --> 01:06:59,650
Absolutely hang on.
1496
01:06:59,650 --> 01:07:00,150
Absolutely.
1497
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:07,510
So with that, they, they are not.
1498
01:07:10,484 --> 01:07:16,984
It's so bad for the game of golf, but I just
don't see at this point the separation.
1499
01:07:17,764 --> 01:07:18,085
Right?
1500
01:07:18,085 --> 01:07:19,385
I think it's interesting.
1501
01:07:19,444 --> 01:07:21,045
I think it's terrible for the game of golf.
1502
01:07:21,045 --> 01:07:22,244
I think thought about that.
1503
01:07:22,244 --> 01:07:26,630
I think it's bad for the fans not to be able to
see outside of the majors, and that was
1504
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:27,769
Barkley's other point.
1505
01:07:27,909 --> 01:07:31,289
These guys need to be playing against each
other more than four times a year.
1506
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:35,690
And that being said, they really need to figure
out a way.
1507
01:07:35,989 --> 01:07:41,085
And it might just be the fact that they gotta
let these LIV guys start playing in PGA Tour
1508
01:07:41,085 --> 01:07:41,744
events again.
1509
01:07:42,125 --> 01:07:43,985
And that's really all they have to do.
1510
01:07:44,045 --> 01:07:44,525
That's it.
1511
01:07:44,525 --> 01:07:44,844
Yeah.
1512
01:07:44,844 --> 01:07:47,505
And and it's it's it's 10 events a year
worldwide.
1513
01:07:47,565 --> 01:07:48,925
They play for a bunch of money.
1514
01:07:48,925 --> 01:07:53,644
I think we're seeing it with the DP World Tour
that there's no real effect by having these
1515
01:07:53,644 --> 01:07:57,859
guys play on it other than you make more money
because they're playing in these events.
1516
01:07:57,859 --> 01:08:00,199
People are more interested in that.
1517
01:08:00,659 --> 01:08:02,260
I don't see this deal going through.
1518
01:08:02,260 --> 01:08:05,259
I don't see PIF being a major investor in the
PGA Tour.
1519
01:08:05,259 --> 01:08:06,019
I think the U.S.
1520
01:08:06,019 --> 01:08:11,565
government is gonna have too much of a hand in
diving into the books and then they've gotta
1521
01:08:11,565 --> 01:08:12,844
open it up for PIF.
1522
01:08:12,844 --> 01:08:17,564
I think the PGA Tour politically is still
lobbying and trying to figure out a way through
1523
01:08:17,564 --> 01:08:18,064
this.
1524
01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:19,805
I think that's the ultimate holdup.
1525
01:08:19,805 --> 01:08:25,569
I don't actually believe the narrative that
they've thrown out there that it's the players
1526
01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:31,069
on the board that are not allowing anything to
go through, because the players have the
1527
01:08:31,069 --> 01:08:31,550
control.
1528
01:08:31,550 --> 01:08:32,050
Right?
1529
01:08:32,429 --> 01:08:38,454
Now knowing some of the players that are on
that board that are in control, yeah, I can see
1530
01:08:38,454 --> 01:08:40,555
that being a factor.
1531
01:08:40,935 --> 01:08:44,295
But I think there's a pathway to get this done.
1532
01:08:44,295 --> 01:08:45,675
I just don't see it happening.
1533
01:08:46,215 --> 01:08:48,795
And that's disappointing for the fans and
everything.
1534
01:08:49,094 --> 01:08:53,960
I mean, this is we're not going to see it this
year at least.
1535
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,279
Yeah.
1536
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:56,279
I mean but let's let's let's look at that.
1537
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:56,399
Right?
1538
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:00,920
I mean, what's disappointing, for the fans.
1539
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:01,159
Right?
1540
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:05,960
I mean, think about all of the decisions that
have been made over the last two or three years
1541
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,420
on the PGA Tour alone.
1542
01:09:07,655 --> 01:09:11,095
One of which, by the way, was that Jay
completely ignored Mr.
1543
01:09:11,095 --> 01:09:17,354
Norman and didn't pick up the phone, which is
all he had to do, and at least hear him out.
1544
01:09:17,494 --> 01:09:23,399
And then it just spiraled and just cascaded
into multiple decisions where we're left with
1545
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,859
a, b, and c tour, within the same 150 players.
1546
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:34,939
And they you know, people consider if you're
not, you know, if you're not in the top five,
1547
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:37,179
you're not really all that good.
1548
01:09:38,045 --> 01:09:42,145
And that just doesn't I mean, it's just the
product is dog shit for a reason.
1549
01:09:42,604 --> 01:09:43,104
Goddamn.
1550
01:09:43,484 --> 01:09:49,005
What's—oh oh, my brain is just starting to tell
me that this whole LIV thing might just
1551
01:09:49,005 --> 01:09:51,239
eventually fizzle the fuck out.
1552
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:52,619
Nick?
1553
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:54,920
I think they have their product.
1554
01:09:54,920 --> 01:10:01,420
I just think that they haven't been able to get
the type of traction that they really wanted
1555
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,520
with it.
1556
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,680
Some will disagree and say, oh, no.
1557
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,494
LIV is the best thing since sliced bread, and
there's a whole fan base and everything.
1558
01:10:08,494 --> 01:10:12,655
It is not near what it needs to be in order to
be profitable.
1559
01:10:12,975 --> 01:10:13,475
Saying.
1560
01:10:13,534 --> 01:10:14,354
It's great.
1561
01:10:14,414 --> 01:10:21,090
And I do like the LIV Tour, but, like,
everything in my head's pointing at board.
1562
01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:25,969
This is not sustainable, and this is gonna be
one of those things that we talk about 20 years
1563
01:10:25,969 --> 01:10:26,630
from now.
1564
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:28,389
Remember when they almost did that?
1565
01:10:29,250 --> 01:10:29,750
Mhmm.
1566
01:10:30,289 --> 01:10:33,489
I'm not—the difference is you've got you've got
a trillion-dollar fund
1567
01:10:34,529 --> 01:10:42,585
That is the biggest variable to all of this:
that there is a fund, and it depends on how
1568
01:10:42,585 --> 01:10:45,944
stubborn and egotistical they are around the
entire thing.
1569
01:10:46,425 --> 01:10:51,449
Are they willing to just lose money just so
that they can say they have a pro golf product?
1570
01:10:51,850 --> 01:10:57,289
And that's what it ultimately is gonna come
down to, in my opinion, where there's enough
1571
01:10:57,289 --> 01:11:02,729
within the politics of all of this that
big-time franchise owners are not going to go
1572
01:11:02,729 --> 01:11:05,070
and buy a LIV Golf franchise, in my opinion.
1573
01:11:05,130 --> 01:11:13,155
There's too much baggage associated with that
publicly that could end up hurting your overall
1574
01:11:13,155 --> 01:11:16,194
business or your brand or so forth.
1575
01:11:16,194 --> 01:11:19,414
So I just don't see that ending up happening.
1576
01:11:19,475 --> 01:11:22,295
But I do think LIV has a viable product right
now.
1577
01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:24,849
We have to remember they're still technically a
startup.
1578
01:11:24,909 --> 01:11:27,729
They're still shifting things in the proper
directions.
1579
01:11:28,349 --> 01:11:32,989
And I would just love to see the fact that
these guys can play where they want to play.
1580
01:11:33,229 --> 01:11:35,170
I've said that from the very beginning.
1581
01:11:35,469 --> 01:11:43,015
I think LIV has an interesting product
offering, and I think it fits in a target
1582
01:11:43,015 --> 01:11:45,994
market that is not what the PGA Tour hits.
1583
01:11:46,775 --> 01:11:52,135
And that being said, we just need the ability
for these guys to still be able to play where
1584
01:11:52,135 --> 01:11:54,970
they want to play, in my opinion.
1585
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:56,970
Well,
1586
01:11:59,989 --> 01:12:01,050
go ahead, Brent.
1587
01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:05,189
In this evaluation of the team, we'll call a
collective $1 billion purple man team.
1588
01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:08,185
Then the CEO is going to do his board and
invest, tell him all the best.
1589
01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:09,225
$1 billion to LIV Golf range.
1590
01:12:09,225 --> 01:12:10,664
So I sat with shots and no ROI.
1591
01:12:10,664 --> 01:12:12,204
Think about it to look low back.
1592
01:12:13,784 --> 01:12:13,864
Mhmm.
1593
01:12:13,864 --> 01:12:14,585
I should say.
1594
01:12:14,585 --> 01:12:16,204
I think then I'll get 1953.
1595
01:12:17,145 --> 01:12:18,125
This is a tournament.
1596
01:12:18,425 --> 01:12:18,824
Yeah.
1597
01:12:18,824 --> 01:12:19,324
Clearly.
1598
01:12:20,819 --> 01:12:21,719
From 1953.
1599
01:12:22,899 --> 01:12:26,100
I, you know, I think, man, I have a hard time.
1600
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:32,260
I have a hard time with this just because, you
know, for me, I was so hard-line on it for the
1601
01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:36,104
first little bit, just so hard for it.
1602
01:12:36,405 --> 01:12:37,945
Actually, hard hard against.
1603
01:12:39,284 --> 01:12:40,025
Next bucket.
1604
01:12:41,045 --> 01:12:42,185
Put it that off.
1605
01:12:42,244 --> 01:12:43,784
He was really quick.
1606
01:12:44,485 --> 01:12:44,985
Crickets.
1607
01:12:48,739 --> 01:12:49,380
Oh, I'm sorry.
1608
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,320
I'm not gonna be cussing.
1609
01:12:55,460 --> 01:12:56,020
Go ahead.
1610
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:57,159
Sorry about that.
1611
01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:57,699
Yeah.
1612
01:12:57,699 --> 01:13:01,300
He he was saying some really bad swear words
for anybody that were gonna
1613
01:13:01,460 --> 01:13:02,680
very naughty words.
1614
01:13:03,244 --> 01:13:03,405
No.
1615
01:13:03,405 --> 01:13:12,685
But I think I think what what is difficult, for
me anyways is is looking at what's changed, and
1616
01:13:12,685 --> 01:13:16,784
what's come out now that this has been the
thing for three to four years, I think.
1617
01:13:17,164 --> 01:13:23,340
And and then looking at the people that run it
and realize that they make an interest every
1618
01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:28,399
day, basically more than what it costs to run
the tour.
1619
01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:34,055
So, you know, there's just it's just a certain
point where you just have to go back to what
1620
01:13:34,055 --> 01:13:38,774
they're attempting to do, and I think Greg
Norman has always kinda had somewhat pure
1621
01:13:38,774 --> 01:13:42,154
intentions, even though he's he's a world-class
businessman.
1622
01:13:44,055 --> 01:13:45,420
Can I stop you there?
1623
01:13:45,899 --> 01:13:54,219
Because there has been a new report around Greg
Norman no longer being CEO of LIV Golf.
1624
01:13:54,219 --> 01:13:58,904
Now we reported this going back about a year
and a half ago, I feel like.
1625
01:13:59,385 --> 01:14:04,284
Mark King was supposed to be stepping in and
taking Greg's title.
1626
01:14:05,064 --> 01:14:07,465
Greg Greg was going yeah.
1627
01:14:07,465 --> 01:14:08,184
So Oh.
1628
01:14:08,184 --> 01:14:08,664
I don't know.
1629
01:14:08,664 --> 01:14:09,164
TaylorMade.
1630
01:14:09,224 --> 01:14:10,524
Mark King was with TaylorMade.
1631
01:14:10,904 --> 01:14:18,760
And then he became this, Taco Bell CEO, and he
actually left the Taco Bell CEO position around
1632
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,560
that time that we were reporting because we had
insider sources that were telling us Mark King
1633
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,119
is going to be the CEO of LIV
1634
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:31,484
And then apparently, we got word that he got
cold feet and did not end up moving forward
1635
01:14:31,484 --> 01:14:31,885
with it.
1636
01:14:31,885 --> 01:14:33,965
There was just too much baggage with it.
1637
01:14:33,965 --> 01:14:38,604
He had a good relationship too with Jay Monahan
in the tour, which was hopefully going to,
1638
01:14:38,604 --> 01:14:40,845
like, mend the fences and so forth.
1639
01:14:40,845 --> 01:14:48,250
But now that report is back that LIV is
actually interviewing and trying to find a CEO
1640
01:14:48,789 --> 01:14:51,050
to take over for Greg Norman.
1641
01:14:52,869 --> 01:14:56,805
Do we—I mean, so I don't believe Mr.
1642
01:14:56,805 --> 01:14:59,065
Norman is that well liked across the board.
1643
01:14:59,845 --> 01:15:00,324
No.
1644
01:15:00,324 --> 01:15:01,604
The LIV guys like him.
1645
01:15:01,604 --> 01:15:01,845
Right?
1646
01:15:01,845 --> 01:15:02,885
But outside of that
1647
01:15:03,045 --> 01:15:06,244
No, I don't even know if that's necessarily the
case.
1648
01:15:06,244 --> 01:15:13,369
I think that he drove a hard bargain for all of
them, and they were all in a position where the
1649
01:15:13,369 --> 01:15:14,670
money was good enough.
1650
01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:20,409
And then they just kinda said, oh, you know,
we'll just deal with being kind of the first to
1651
01:15:20,409 --> 01:15:21,369
do all this stuff.
1652
01:15:22,010 --> 01:15:23,689
But, I mean, who knows what's gonna happen?
1653
01:15:23,689 --> 01:15:28,704
I mean, think about what happens in two or
three to four—two to three to five years.
1654
01:15:28,704 --> 01:15:30,625
Like, is Dustin Johnson still gonna be playing?
1655
01:15:30,625 --> 01:15:32,545
Is Brooks Koepka gonna still be playing?
1656
01:15:32,545 --> 01:15:35,185
Are any of these guys gonna still be around?
1657
01:15:35,185 --> 01:15:42,469
So they need to find somebody that's gonna be
able to take the guys that are basically 17 to
1658
01:15:42,469 --> 01:15:49,590
25 and be able to take the players that are 17
to 25 in the world, the elite elite amateurs
1659
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:53,189
and elite pros that are there and be able to
entice them over.
1660
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:58,005
Because otherwise, I don't—I don't know how
they're gonna be able to keep things very
1661
01:15:58,005 --> 01:15:58,404
fresh.
1662
01:15:58,404 --> 01:16:01,284
So I assume that's a priority for them, but
maybe not.
1663
01:16:01,284 --> 01:16:02,104
I don't know.
1664
01:16:02,564 --> 01:16:03,604
It's gonna be interesting.
1665
01:16:03,604 --> 01:16:07,125
Only time will tell around that, and,
hopefully, our inside sources can provide us
1666
01:16:07,125 --> 01:16:10,264
with a little bit more detail around all of
that.
1667
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,840
Now the last thing that I will say is that the
teams that will not be changing are Martin
1668
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,659
Kaymer's Cleeks GC, though that team is
solidified.
1669
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:21,619
Bryson DeChambeau's Crushers, they're
solidified.
1670
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:25,139
You've got Cam Smith's Ripper GC, they're
solidified.
1671
01:16:25,505 --> 01:16:31,425
And Ian Poulter's Majesticks, they are
solidified as well for their team for next
1672
01:16:31,425 --> 01:16:37,264
year, which opens up the door for a whole lot
of other teams and a lot of players within
1673
01:16:37,264 --> 01:16:41,069
there for those teams whether or not they're
gonna be re-signed and whether or not they're
1674
01:16:41,069 --> 01:16:43,810
gonna be playing on that same team.
1675
01:16:44,670 --> 01:16:45,310
That 9?
1676
01:16:45,310 --> 01:16:47,409
Is that 9 players?
1677
01:16:47,710 --> 01:16:51,469
Nine teams that are restructuring in some way,
shape, or form?
1678
01:16:51,469 --> 01:16:51,969
Yeah.
1679
01:16:52,965 --> 01:16:53,125
So
1680
01:16:53,364 --> 01:16:55,524
Well, they're just not solidified yet.
1681
01:16:55,524 --> 01:16:55,845
Okay?
1682
01:16:55,845 --> 01:16:57,685
So there might be some trades.
1683
01:16:57,685 --> 01:17:01,545
There might be like, there's still stuff that
can go on with all of that.
1684
01:17:01,845 --> 01:17:03,125
I should have been active listening.
1685
01:17:03,125 --> 01:17:03,784
I apologize.
1686
01:17:03,845 --> 01:17:04,405
That's okay.
1687
01:17:04,405 --> 01:17:07,045
We're gonna go ahead and end that here for this
week.
1688
01:17:07,045 --> 01:17:09,979
There's so much to still dive into around LIV
Golf.
1689
01:17:09,979 --> 01:17:13,920
We'll get into it next week as we keep this
conversation going.
1690
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,760
That will be the end of it right now.
1691
01:17:18,619 --> 01:17:22,824
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1692
01:17:22,824 --> 01:17:24,524
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1697
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Until next time, everybody.
1698
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:43,699
Cheers.
1699
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,420
Cheers.
1700
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,319
One more time.
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