Tuesday, December 31, 2024
Show Notes
The episode begins with a nod to sponsors Devereux Golf and Swannies Golf before Buttsy shares his New Year golf resolutions. Matt Cook discusses self-investment in golf, leading to a review of 2024's pro golf highlights, focusing on Scottie Scheffler and Bryson DeChambeau. The conversation explores declining golf viewership, LIV Golf's impact, and the role of YouTube in professional golf. They discuss authenticity in broadcasting and Nelly Korda's influence in women's golf. The episode shifts to 2025 expectations for PGA and LIV Golf, Rory McIlroy's potential, and a Sentry Tournament of Champions preview. Audience engagement, Pull Hook Golf's YouTube ambitions, and goals for 2025 are highlighted, concluding with listener questions and final remarks.
(0:00) Welcome to Pull Hook Golf
(0:20) Episode topics and sponsor message
(2:15) Tee Off Report w/ Buttsy
(5:51) 2024 Pro Golf Year in Review
(11:25) LIV Golf's Impact
(20:31) Brooks Koepka's tournament attitude and Nelly Korda's dominance
(27:46) Golf predictions and expectations for 2025
(31:02) Discussion on PGA and LIV Golf future
(37:30) The importance of legacy and PGA Tour Studios
(41:29) TGL expectations and golf's media landscape
(47:35) YouTube golf, trash talk, and TGL broadcast team
(51:02) TGL success factors and sports betting in golf
(53:17) On-course reporters and personal goals for 2025
(55:02) Buttsy's grass league and 2025 golf predictions
(1:07:00) PNC Championship recap and Sentry Tournament of Champions preview
(1:20:11) Betting odds, player conditions, and mud balls
(1:23:12) Social media impact and pro golf in 2025
(1:32:51) Podcast and personal goals for 2025
(1:34:54) YouTube channel launch and audience engagement
(1:36:18) Brent's presser dare and Buttsy's parting comments
(1:37:20) Health reflections and sauna benefits
(1:38:16) Closing remarks and special sponsor thanks
Show Transcript
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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Tonight, we've got Buttsy.
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We've got our tour insider, Brent Grant.
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And man, do we have an episode for you because
this is the last show of 2024, and we're going
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to get it kick-started with the TRF report with
Buttsy.
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Then we're gonna dive into the 2024 Pro Golf
Year in Review, where we basically break down
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all the big stories and headlines from 2024.
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Then we're gonna get into some expectations and
predictions that we have for 2025, a little
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preview of the Century, which I just realized
is this week, gentlemen.
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So that's gonna be interesting in and of
itself.
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I know it kinda caught me off guard.
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I'm like, I was kind of expecting it to be next
week.
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But that being said, we will cover that.
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And then we've got a couple of extra little
pieces towards the end as well, but let's get
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it started here by thanking our show sponsor
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But let's get right into the tee-off report
with Buttsy.
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Now Buttsy, as New Year's is coming up here and
a lot of guys and a lot of girls are starting
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to set their New Year's resolutions.
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What's your advice for golfers for their New
Year's resolutions?
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Oh, man.
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This is gonna be my own advice as well.
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That is to not gonna spend any more.
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We're not, don't buy clubs.
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Don't spend money on clubs.
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Stop buying equipment.
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Stop looking at these juicy new drivers that
literally go no further than they've ever
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claimed to go over the last 10 years.
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If they did, we'd be hitting it 1,000 yards by
now, but get a fucking lesson
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for the
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new year.
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Go get a lesson.
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Learn how to align yourself to the golf ball.
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Learn how to aim.
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Start there and spend some money investing in
the physical side of your game, which is your
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setup, and have somebody get their eye on you
and quit worrying about the newest piece of
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equipment that you don't have.
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Wow.
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That's pretty actually solid advice out of you.
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I was expecting something, you know, comical,
but that was dead on.
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I mean, invest into yourself this year.
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That's the comical, man.
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I mean, and we can get into that if you really
wanna, you know?
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I mean, there's 30 handicaps that go out and
spend $500 every year and pray and beg their
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wives so they can finally go get that new
fucking driver, then they go out and they dent
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the fuck out of the bottom of that one too.
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So, that's what I mean.
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At least get good enough where you reap the
benefits of a shaft fitting.
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You're gonna go spend $300 on a shaft.
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At least get to the point where that makes a
fucking difference, and you're not just showing
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off the paint.
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So that would be my advice.
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And wants to know, who's your teacher, Buttsy?
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Who's gonna be giving you that golf lesson in
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Well, first and foremost, God, you know, God
is.
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And, no.
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I have several teachers, man.
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It's usually whoever I end up hanging out with
more that I can say, hey.
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Why does this look so fucked up?
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And, what do you think?
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And they'll give me a tip, and then I'll go
down the hallway with that for about four hours
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over the course of six months that I don't
practice until I hang out with another buddy,
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and then he's my teacher.
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So, no.
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I'm gonna lock in.
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I'm gonna go see somebody.
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I'm gonna put in the effort.
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I've committed to practicing for, like, at
least two nights a week and maybe play some
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afternoon golf that isn't just blacked out once
a week on a Saturday.
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There you go.
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I gotta tell you, it's solid advice though.
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Invest in yourself, folks.
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Go get yourself a lesson.
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Go get yourself in the gym and get working out
with a golf fitness trainer because that's
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gonna make a big difference as well.
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Or at least take a look at guys like Ando on
Instagram, who I'll attach his Instagram in the
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podcast information.
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But if you go on and watch some of these
Instagram videos that they do, they're
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basically giving you the blueprint as to what
to do in the gym, which is pretty sweet.
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Yeah.
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I don't do any of that in the gym, but I'm not
here for that.
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So, anyways.
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You're up there for the bulk.
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Get that pump on, baby.
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I just like lifting fucking heavyweights.
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That ain't gonna slow down.
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Y'all like doing that.
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So till these joints give out and my backswing
literally stops in my back pocket, on my feet
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too.
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It already does.
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Shit.
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It already does.
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There you go, folks.
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I mean, there's no better advice than right
there from the tee-off report.
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Fantastic stuff there.
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Let's get right into the 2024 year in review,
and I'm just gonna go over a couple of the
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biggest storylines from 2024.
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And, gentlemen, let me know if I missed
anything, and then we're gonna talk about this
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for a little bit.
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We've got, first off, probably the biggest
storyline.
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Scottie Scheffler wins seven times, wins the
Masters, wins the Players, wins the FedEx Cup,
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and also won four of the signature series
events.
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Then we've got Xander Schauffele, who won the
PGA Championship and Open Championship, which
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he had finally broken through with the PGA
Championship because he had that stigma that
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everybody was chiming in with.
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I mean, we were one of the many media outlets
that were talking about how Xander Schauffele
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is really having a tough time closing out golf
tournaments and especially when the week prior
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was the, you know, the, oh, gosh, try.
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I appreciate that.
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We will get into a little bit of the PNC recap
as well.
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I know that one is close to home for you.
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So we will talk about that.
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Certainly that's in our little and more section
of this particular podcast.
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But, that being said, going back to Xander
Schauffele, he had lost the Wells Fargo the
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week prior to Rory McIlroy, in which he just
kinda couldn't do anything on Sunday.
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And that was kind of a theme for him.
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And then all of a sudden broke through in a big
way at the PGA Championship.
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And, obviously then followed that up with his
second major championship win of the year and
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of his career with the Open Championship.
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Then we got Bryson DeChambeau, who this one is
interesting because not only does he win the
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U.S.
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Open, but the guy becomes an absolute YouTube
celebrity star within the sport.
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I mean, it's pretty incredible.
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Yeah.
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What's that?
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A real breakout.
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It's an absolute breakout.
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Like, yeah, timing couldn't have been better.
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Yeah.
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And then, I mean, the transformation of his
personality too, from being hated among the
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general public to all of a sudden being loved.
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And everybody's like, oh, my God, I got to
watch Bryson DeChambeau's hole in one over his
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house and all of that good stuff.
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The Break 50 series that he did.
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I mean, just a lot of good stuff that came out
of Bryson DeChambeau this year.
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And then the last part was really around golf
viewership, which was significantly down in
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2024.
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I didn't even realize how much it was down.
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Across the board, it was down between 20 to 25%
decrease in viewership amongst all of the
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tournaments.
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And here's the crazy thing, the Masters was
down 20%.
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Then you got the Phoenix Open was down 35%.
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You've got the Arnold Palmer Invitational was
down 30%.
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And the Players Championship was down 15%.
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So I mean, when you look at that, some of the
biggest tournaments of the year and the
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viewership is down that much, that is a pretty
big hit in terms of professional golf and
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what's actually being watched out there.
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I think you said it right there, and I know
we'll get into that.
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But, in terms of professional golf, viewership
was down.
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Right?
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But I'd like to think golf as a whole being
consumed was maybe up.
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Alright.
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Yeah.
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I'm with you there.
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Now, guys, which one was the biggest storyline
for you this year?
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So we'll start with you, Buttsy.
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Alright.
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Xander breakthrough.
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Getting off the getting off the camel's back,
getting it done, and now, probably not looking
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back anytime soon.
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Probably gonna get a few more, and that's just
gonna be a normal thing that he does.
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Yeah.
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That was an interesting one because we got a
lot of backlash over.
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We did a clip that was like, why is Xander
Schauffele, the number 2, betting odds for this
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week heading into there?
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And here's the thing.
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I love seeing the players break through.
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Like, I will never stop, like, providing that
type of critique on somebody even though he
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came through and broke through the very next
week.
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That's awesome to see.
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Like, somebody to take all the criticism or
critiques and all of a sudden be able to pull
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through.
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I love that.
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Like, that's I I love it.
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I love to see guys do that.
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But, Brent, what about you?
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What was your big storyline for 2024?
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I think it's I think it's a mix between between
the two, and it's kind of a a the top two that
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you mentioned, with Scottie and Xander.
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And and the the common theme there is kind of
the breakout amongst a bunch of critique.
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I mean, Scottie's Scottie's putting was under
critique, is still under critique even though
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he's he's won, I think, in in all worldwide, it
was, like, nine or 10 times, including a gold
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medal.
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But the same goes and the same goes for Xander.
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And and it's just it's just incredible that
both those guys were not in not in the media
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for anything that they said or any, like, I
mean, obviously, Scottie had a pretty
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incredible thing happen at the PGA
Championship.
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But other than that, these guys made made
headlines because of their play.
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It didn't have anything to do with their
attitudes or anything like that.
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And and, it get it gets right back to where we
should all be, which is what matters.
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So it's it's good golf.
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Let's let's let's dispense with all the
politics and all the BS, and let's go play golf
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and see who wins.
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And it's pretty clear that Scottie and Xander
did that the best amongst everybody.
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It's a hot take.
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Hot take right there.
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Love that out of you, Brent.
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Absolutely love that.
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Now we're gonna get into another hot take area,
which is, was LIV Golf a success in 2024?
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And here's a few little points behind that.
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Rahm, who was their big signing heading into
the 2024 season, didn't really move the needle
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in terms of LIV Golf viewership.
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Then you've got no additional teams were added
this year, and no additional players were added
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either from the PGA Tour side in terms of big
names.
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And then the CW terminating their agreement
with them, which was mainly LIV Golf paying
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them for broadcast rights.
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So I know anybody who follows LIV Golf is gonna
say, yeah, but they've got FS1 kinda looking to
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make a deal with them.
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That's fine and dandy.
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I haven't heard anything final around that as
of yet, unless I missed something.
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But that being said, Buttsy, was LIV Golf a
success in 2024?
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Man.
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That's subjective, I think.
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That's what everybody says when they don't
really have a good understanding.
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Right?
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No.
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I think they have their cult following.
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And before the start of the year, I got into it
a little bit and was watching the events.
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And I thought that the product was super cool,
and I liked that it showed off more players.
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At the end of the day, I don't know that it
grew a whole lot.
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Like you said, I don't think, you know, 10
million new people are watching LIV Golf.
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I think the people that liked it when it first
came out still love it and enjoy the product
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and enjoy watching some of the guys that they
don't get to see play golf on the PGA Tour
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anymore play golf out there, however fufu they
might think that is or the music and all that.
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I don't know that they've grown.
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I don't know that they've grabbed a bunch of
the up-and-coming generation that's learning
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the game, and I don't think that the product's
really improved.
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I think it's just kinda, it's kinda, you know,
maintaining altitude, and we'll see what
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happens.
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They're gonna have to do something different.
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Brent, what about you?
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Can I ask you the same question?
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Yeah.
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LIV Golf as success in 2024.
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I think I think it totally depends on your
perspective.
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Obviously, for the majority of the players that
have remained and are still making a crap load
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of money doing their thing, they feel great
about it.
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Obviously, Bryson has been given a huge
platform and is able to do what he wants with
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his, with his own image, which is crucial, and
that's a part of a huge conversation, I think,
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going into 2025.
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But we can get into that later.
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And then on the other side of it, I talked to a
bunch of people in Nashville, a bunch of the
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members at The Grove, which is where they host
one of the events.
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And it just sort of seems like it's a novelty
kind of thing that you get, you know, a bunch
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of young folks out there and they wanna go and
party, and that's kinda what the audience is.
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And then you, like you said, Buttsy, you've got
the homers that, hey, you know what?
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Fuck the PGA Tour.
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We're gonna anything anti-PGA Tour, we're gonna
go ahead and give our support to that.
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So, overall, as a professional golfer, I would
say absolutely not.
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I don't think the LIV tour has grown in
popularity to the point where you could say
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that it gained any ground other than that they
were able to kinda use the deal that they made
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in May, and we'll see what happens.
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But 2024, not a success.
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You
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know?
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Yeah.
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2024 was rough for LIV Golf in my opinion.
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I mean, they had some breakout stars like
Joaquín Niemann really had a great beginning to
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the year that was kind of leading into the
Masters and everything.
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Bryson DeChambeau was definitely a highlight
for LIV Golf.
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However, I don't even know with all of the
stuff that Bryson did if it really pushed the
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LIV Golf product that much.
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Right?
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It was more so his own personal brand.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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I think you're right, Buttsy.
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I think it took away from the LIV Golf product,
and more people just started watching him on
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YouTube, and that's where they were getting
their fix.
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It might be part of the reason that the PGA
Tour was, as dumb as we try to say they are, is
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so hard on those media rights, you know,
because they don't want anything like that to
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happen.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's tough, right?
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Because part of what kind of, you know, came
about with regards to Bryson and his media
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rights was Phil that said the same thing, was
that the argument can absolutely be made that
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it may or may not take away from the LIV tour
as a whole.
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But, honestly, I mean, if you can have a bunch
of people all in lockstep growing their brand,
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actually growing their brands, I mean, Bryson,
aside from maybe Phil trying to give it a shot
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and maybe a couple other guys, nobody was doing
anywhere near the amount of work that Bryson
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was doing.
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But that's what it takes, and that's something
that, unfortunately, the PGA Tour has kind of
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stamped down on because it does take a lot of
work to grow somebody's brand.
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And they got 300 guys that are responsible for
300 plus.
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And, I mean, who the hell's got the time for
that?
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So
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When you have a marketplace now.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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Yep.
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Golf attention span.
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And there's a lot of other places to shop now
than just the classic product that was the PGA
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Tour.
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And yeah.
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Everything on.
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Well.
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That's not shown.
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I actually have a question for you guys.
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So we talked about that clip of Bryson making
that putt, and I think it was at Meridien in
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Dallas.
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And, obviously, there were some things that
were happening on the green there, but this was
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a 15-second clip that you had, you know, a
borderline Hall of Fame quarterback and one of
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the best players in the world alongside each
other doing what they were doing for 15
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seconds.
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And I guarantee you that thing got more clicks
and more views than anything the PGA Tour has
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done.
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For I think this is gonna
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be a battle.
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Circuits probably.
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Yeah.
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And I think it's gonna be a battle between
professional golf and the likes of YouTube
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golf.
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I think there's a real battle here for
eyeballs.
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And I don't think it's necessarily, you know,
PGA Tour versus LIV Golf.
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I think you have your traditional professional
golf fan.
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I think LIV has kind of grabbed, you know, the
people that were haters of the PGA Tour.
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And then you've got this new audience that is
all about YouTube golf.
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And what's the one thing that throughout the
ages outside of when Tiger Woods was in
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contention, what is professional golf known
for?
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It's boring.
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It's like watching grass grow.
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Like it's a great way to fall asleep if you're
having issues taking a nap.
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Like that was professional golf in a lot of
ways throughout the years.
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And it still is.
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And I think that's the part that is missed,
right?
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That the product itself isn't necessarily
great.
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Yeah.
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You're going to watch great golf, but I think
people wanna be entertained.
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Mhmm.
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And that's where the YouTube golf side becomes
really interesting.
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And LIV Golf was kind of a bridge over to that
side of the world, but they're not really
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benefiting from Bryson DeChambeau blowing up
his own personal channel.
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And, you know, not just YouTube golf.
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Internet media, like, in general has disrupted
every part of everything.
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I mean, what is it?
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MrBeast Games.
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Right?
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Like, the most watched, one of the most watched
shows, like, in the history of anything that
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you could watch.
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It's a YouTube show, and it's put on by
somebody and that, you know, they did it
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themselves versus a network.
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And you could liken networks to the PGA Tour.
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They're a golf network.
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All of this other media online now is starting
to come up.
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And like you said, they're doing things
differently.
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It's different, and people like that.
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Like, it's worth their time.
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Yeah.
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And Trot even mentions there's still no mics on
the bag and the caddie.
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He's like, this isn't hard.
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And that definitely adds an element to it.
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Right?
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Where the caddies, I feel like those are the
guys a lot of times are the characters that are
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out there on tour.
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I mean, just interviewing a few of them and so
forth.
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It's like, man, those guys have huge
personalities.
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They've got a ton of stories.
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Those are the guys that it's like, okay, I want
to see all of a sudden if they know their guy
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that well in the middle of like a heated
situation where they're under pressure, they're
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under the gun, how are they gonna calm them
down?
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Like, what are they gonna do?
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Like, imagine hearing one of them, like, a guy
hits the shot and, like, under his breath,
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like, oh, fuck.
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He cooked it.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, it's just yeah.
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I mean, shit that they probably wouldn't want
you to hear, but, yeah, like, you'd pick up
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some amazing stuff.
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I think the professional game has lacked
authenticity in a lot of ways where it's not
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real.
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Like, so many guys.
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And it's funny because on the last episode
around the match, a lot of people brought up
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the fact that this is like these guys aren't
going to trash talk because they're worried
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about sponsorships.
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They're worried about being PC.
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And I have a feeling that, you know, especially
here in America, that we're moving beyond kind
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of that PC era to where you have to be
politically correct.
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You gotta say all the right things.
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We know the audience wants authenticity.
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They want real interactions.
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They don't want the fake stuff anymore.
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They don't want the cookie cutter.
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Oh, this is a gentleman's game and all this and
that.
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They want the real stuff.
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And I'm speaking on behalf of, obviously, a lot
of people when I say that.
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That being said, you know, putting mics on and
having that type of audio or even, like, think
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of that chick you banged last night.
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Like, having a caddy say that to one of the
golfers, you know, hopefully, they're not
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married and that doesn't come out, but, you
know, that would be pretty funny and
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entertaining in that moment.
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It's relatable to the common man's experience
on the golf course with his buddies.
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Right?
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Like, the shit that comes out on the golf
course is what comes out on the golf course,
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and it doesn't come out on the golf course on
PGA Tour.
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Yeah.
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No.
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You're absolutely right.
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But and the and the other thing it.
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Well, exactly.
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Right?
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I mean, think about how many stories we've
heard about Jack or Arnie and, you know, Jack's
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Jack's cat Jack bends down.
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What do you think about this one?
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And he goes, well, I think it goes left to
right and Jack goes, no.
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No.
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No.
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The blonde over there with the skirt.
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Like, stuff like that.
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Right?
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I mean, the problem is is and you I think you
told me the story last week or the week before,
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but but, you know, Bryson was taking a video
obviously doing his thing and happened to catch
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Scottie at a at a not so great moment.
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We don't know what that moment was, and I don't
even wanna infer because I do respect Scottie
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Scheffler.
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But, and then and then the breakout
conversation afterwards is you need to you need
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to take that down and this and that and the f
and that.
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And and he's protecting his image.
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And the other part of the other part about this
is is that the corporate entities don't wanna
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see anything that has to do with a common man.
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They don't give a shit.
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And that's kinda who that's that's who signs
the checks, unfortunately.
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And and, until until and that's what we wanted
from LIV.
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We wanted LIV to kinda break out from that, and
I don't think it's happened yet.
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But, you know, the hope is that that, you know,
they kind of become kind of the bad boy, you
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know, the real genuine part of golf, but we'll
see if it happens or not.
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Or they're just gonna keep sorry.
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Go ahead.
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No.
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That was a good point.
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I was gonna say that, you know, they originally
came out as kind of the disruptor, the bad boys
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and the going against the they were the
contrarians of golf And sure enough, that
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hasn't really stuck to it.
450
00:23:30,349 --> 00:23:31,150
Where yeah.
451
00:23:31,150 --> 00:23:33,970
Jon Rahm coming over and dropping all those f
bombs.
452
00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:35,390
That's fine.
453
00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:37,710
But, like, that's not what we're looking for.
454
00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:41,534
That's not the entertaining piece to all of
this.
455
00:23:41,534 --> 00:23:41,934
No.
456
00:23:41,934 --> 00:23:42,174
No.
457
00:23:42,174 --> 00:23:44,894
Just some random rage moment.
458
00:23:44,894 --> 00:23:45,214
Right?
459
00:23:45,214 --> 00:23:49,694
I mean, you see all those compilations of Tiger
doing his thing over the last 30 years.
460
00:23:49,694 --> 00:23:49,934
Right?
461
00:23:49,934 --> 00:23:51,714
And it's like, okay.
462
00:23:51,934 --> 00:23:52,575
We get it.
463
00:23:52,575 --> 00:23:55,394
These guys can cuss, but it's like, okay.
464
00:23:55,549 --> 00:24:00,909
What are the actual real conversations going on
after he hits a greenside bunker and he's got
465
00:24:00,909 --> 00:24:03,089
five inches to work with worth of green?
466
00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:06,130
What is that conversation like between he and
his caddie?
467
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:07,309
And those don't happen.
468
00:24:07,309 --> 00:24:09,525
You don't see any of those happen.
469
00:24:09,605 --> 00:24:11,384
And that would be that would be huge.
470
00:24:11,525 --> 00:24:15,605
They could be talking to each other about, you
know, a place they like to fish, like a fishing
471
00:24:15,605 --> 00:24:16,484
trip and, oh, yeah.
472
00:24:16,484 --> 00:24:18,404
We caught a big one up there last summer, you
know?
473
00:24:18,404 --> 00:24:18,724
Mhmm.
474
00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:20,805
Doesn't have to be naughty stuff either.
475
00:24:20,805 --> 00:24:24,744
It can just be like, relatable stuff that
they're actually conversing about.
476
00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:25,180
Yeah.
477
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:25,680
Creatine.
478
00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:26,539
You know, that's huge.
479
00:24:26,539 --> 00:24:28,160
That was an amazing conversation.
480
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:30,000
Jesus.
481
00:24:30,619 --> 00:24:36,700
Did you guys notice was it just me, or was
kinda Brooks just kinda a bit shut down?
482
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:40,535
I mean, obviously, it's super cold out there,
but it just didn't seem that they were really
483
00:24:40,535 --> 00:24:45,974
focusing much on those conversations between
Brooks and Bryson if they even existed and just
484
00:24:45,974 --> 00:24:49,815
kinda hyper-focused on Scottie and Rory, you
know, because they were playing well.
485
00:24:49,815 --> 00:24:51,974
So that's the only thing that matters.
486
00:24:51,974 --> 00:24:52,474
Right?
487
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,519
Brooks was there for a paycheck, man.
488
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:56,160
Oh, no.
489
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,559
No.
490
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:57,059
Yeah.
491
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,940
I'm not.
492
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,119
I'm not missing the guy.
493
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,519
I get it.
494
00:24:59,519 --> 00:24:59,680
No.
495
00:24:59,680 --> 00:24:59,840
No.
496
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,000
No.
497
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,080
No.
498
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,140
But more so than probably the other guys, I
don't think he really cared all that much
499
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,924
because Bryson and even in the beginning there
on the practice putting green and they're about
500
00:25:09,924 --> 00:25:15,924
to walk over to the first tee and he's like,
hey, man, let's jump on these guys early and
501
00:25:15,924 --> 00:25:17,305
let's get in their heads.
502
00:25:17,765 --> 00:25:20,410
And Brooks is just like, yeah, dude.
503
00:25:20,410 --> 00:25:21,390
Oh, okay.
504
00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:23,130
And they're mic'd up.
505
00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:27,289
And it's like, there was just no energy, no
excitement whatsoever.
506
00:25:27,289 --> 00:25:31,769
So that's pretty good read there, Brent, in
regards to Brooks and kind of what he was
507
00:25:31,769 --> 00:25:33,230
thinking heading into that.
508
00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:34,589
And, you know,
509
00:25:34,954 --> 00:25:36,414
That's spot on, Brent.
510
00:25:36,714 --> 00:25:37,214
Absolutely.
511
00:25:38,075 --> 00:25:38,575
Yeah.
512
00:25:38,714 --> 00:25:44,555
I think Brooks has played it because they were
both on LIV, and they both kinda have to get
513
00:25:44,555 --> 00:25:44,755
along.
514
00:25:44,954 --> 00:25:45,434
Paid.
515
00:25:45,434 --> 00:25:46,234
Get what was that?
516
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:49,035
Comment for man has come around to the Pull
Hook Golf podcast?
517
00:25:49,035 --> 00:25:49,680
What was that?
518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,400
Oh, yeah.
519
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,420
So Brent Grant, the man has come around to the
Pull Hook Golf podcast.
520
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:55,539
Love that.
521
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,059
Who who has?
522
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680
I believe he's referring to himself, the man.
523
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,700
Oh, well, hello, Brent Grant.
524
00:26:03,514 --> 00:26:04,494
There we go.
525
00:26:04,554 --> 00:26:10,075
But I don't think and, you know, there was that
big flip where it's like, oh, Bryson and Brooks
526
00:26:10,075 --> 00:26:11,054
are buddies now.
527
00:26:11,194 --> 00:26:12,634
I don't think you flipped that switch.
528
00:26:12,634 --> 00:26:15,774
I think it's kinda like, we're cordial with
each other.
529
00:26:15,914 --> 00:26:16,414
Yeah.
530
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:21,019
Bryson's a YouTube star, and Brooks is
collecting a paycheck.
531
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,259
That's that's all that it is.
532
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,200
And it's all I
533
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,319
think it meant a lot more.
534
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:25,799
Agree.
535
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:26,279
I mean, who gives?
536
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:26,440
I
537
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,880
think it meant a lot more to Bryson than it did
to Brooks.
538
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Let's put it that way.
539
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,059
Absolutely agree.
540
00:26:33,055 --> 00:26:40,174
Now there was in women's golf in 2024, Nelly
Korda was pretty damn dominant across the
541
00:26:40,174 --> 00:26:40,674
board.
542
00:26:40,975 --> 00:26:45,855
I mean, there's some other big names in there,
too, in terms of breakouts, but Nelly Korda
543
00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:49,599
kind of proved her dominance winning seven
times.
544
00:26:49,819 --> 00:26:53,099
And I believe five of those were in a row or
thereabouts.
545
00:26:53,099 --> 00:26:53,419
Yeah.
546
00:26:53,419 --> 00:26:54,539
There's a large amount.
547
00:26:54,539 --> 00:26:54,779
Yeah.
548
00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:56,539
There was a large amount that was in a row.
549
00:26:56,539 --> 00:26:57,599
It was kind of nuts.
550
00:26:59,515 --> 00:27:02,315
Obviously, we don't talk that much about the
women's game.
551
00:27:02,315 --> 00:27:04,954
We probably should do a little bit more of it.
552
00:27:05,194 --> 00:27:11,434
But that being said, she also won the LPGA
Player of the Year award this year and got her
553
00:27:11,434 --> 00:27:13,295
second major with the Chevron Championship.
554
00:27:13,434 --> 00:27:13,595
So,
555
00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:14,190
Yeah.
556
00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:17,889
Her display was I mean, that was Annika.
557
00:27:18,509 --> 00:27:19,309
That was Annika.
558
00:27:19,309 --> 00:27:20,690
That was Lorena Ochoa.
559
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:21,269
That was yep.
560
00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:24,349
That was unbelievable, and I hope she keeps it
up.
561
00:27:24,349 --> 00:27:24,589
That's,
562
00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:26,829
She's got the best swing in the game in my
opinion.
563
00:27:26,829 --> 00:27:27,730
Men or women.
564
00:27:29,069 --> 00:27:29,384
Yeah.
565
00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:30,025
Right now?
566
00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:30,505
Yeah.
567
00:27:30,505 --> 00:27:31,565
Or I think so.
568
00:27:32,265 --> 00:27:32,585
Yeah.
569
00:27:32,585 --> 00:27:35,724
Adam Scott's just a pretty, pretty golf swing.
570
00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:40,505
He's that pretty golf swing.
571
00:27:40,505 --> 00:27:42,045
He's just a pretty, pretty.
572
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,640
Is a pretty one.
573
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,119
All right.
574
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,180
Let's move it.
575
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,900
Time.
576
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:50,059
Let's move it into our expectations and
predictions for 2025.
577
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,180
So first, we're going to start with
expectations.
578
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,795
First expectation is the merger with the PGA
Tour and PIF or LIV Golf.
579
00:28:00,335 --> 00:28:02,835
What do you guys think that looks like in 2025?
580
00:28:04,654 --> 00:28:10,015
I think there's gotta be some, at some point
that they start playing nice in the sandbox and
581
00:28:10,015 --> 00:28:13,630
maybe it starts small, but, I think we see that
happening.
582
00:28:13,630 --> 00:28:14,529
I don't know.
583
00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:18,349
Fully merging and letting everybody come back,
and everybody's happy-go-lucky.
584
00:28:18,349 --> 00:28:24,289
I don't know if that's gonna happen, but, they
will they will cross streams this year.
585
00:28:25,309 --> 00:28:27,009
Just like two dudes in a urinal.
586
00:28:27,184 --> 00:28:27,684
Yeah.
587
00:28:28,065 --> 00:28:28,785
Go ahead, Brent.
588
00:28:28,785 --> 00:28:29,924
What about you, bud?
589
00:28:30,224 --> 00:28:30,384
Yeah.
590
00:28:30,384 --> 00:28:35,984
I was speaking to a couple of guys today at
TPC, and one of them was on the board for a
591
00:28:35,984 --> 00:28:36,544
little while.
592
00:28:36,544 --> 00:28:41,159
And I kinda just asked the question, like, what
do you guys think is gonna happen with all this
593
00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:41,399
stuff?
594
00:28:41,399 --> 00:28:44,839
And they were rather, like, kinda no.
595
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:46,279
Nobody's really talking about it.
596
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,619
So it doesn't seem as though those
conversations are really getting leaked out
597
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:55,240
with regards to, you know, who, what, where,
when, and why, and all that other stuff with
598
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,765
regards to the players and stuff.
599
00:28:57,305 --> 00:29:05,325
But, honestly, what I would love to see happen
is that this deal gets done.
600
00:29:05,465 --> 00:29:10,789
We get over the politics, and everybody can
make a lot more money, and there are more
601
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:16,710
playing opportunities given for the Korn Ferry
Tour guys and an opportunity to really, really
602
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:20,730
kinda break through and get back to what really
matters, which is just golf.
603
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:21,690
So
604
00:29:23,654 --> 00:29:27,355
In a perfect world, let's have everybody come
back together.
605
00:29:27,815 --> 00:29:29,734
However, we've talked about it numerous times.
606
00:29:29,734 --> 00:29:35,174
I brought it up several times in regards to
where the deal is at and so forth.
607
00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:38,529
And, yes, it looks like there is an agreement
in place.
608
00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:44,990
That's all of everything that I've heard come
back to me is around the fact that the deal's
609
00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:45,490
done.
610
00:29:45,549 --> 00:29:51,934
It's basically at this point, just making sure
that neither group ends up being investigated
611
00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:54,414
by the, you know, who.
612
00:29:55,035 --> 00:30:00,474
So that being said, with the new office coming
in, you've got a good opportunity for this to
613
00:30:00,474 --> 00:30:00,875
go down.
614
00:30:00,875 --> 00:30:05,579
You've heard things about this deal and some of
the changes that are made.
615
00:30:05,659 --> 00:30:12,319
The one thing that I'm really interested in,
and, you know, it's been such a long time since
616
00:30:12,619 --> 00:30:17,119
I've talked about it in regards to what's gonna
happen with the LIV Golf franchises.
617
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:21,125
What's going to happen with, you know, players?
618
00:30:21,125 --> 00:30:23,224
Are they going to come back without penalty?
619
00:30:23,444 --> 00:30:26,424
All these different things and all these things
are kind of in place.
620
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:31,845
However, the details around how this is all
going to go down are not.
621
00:30:31,845 --> 00:30:36,450
So we don't know if this is going to even when
the deal is official and goes through.
622
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:40,529
We don't know if LIV Golf guys are going to be
able to come back and play on the PGA Tour next
623
00:30:40,529 --> 00:30:41,029
year.
624
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:46,994
We don't know if there's going to have to be
some type of policy put into place that's going
625
00:30:46,994 --> 00:30:50,215
to allow these guys to come back and what
that's going to look like.
626
00:30:50,355 --> 00:30:52,934
I think we're gonna get details in 2025.
627
00:30:53,955 --> 00:30:58,055
However, we're going to see the change in the
game happen in 2026.
628
00:30:58,769 --> 00:31:00,789
And, hopefully, that's not too late.
629
00:31:01,009 --> 00:31:01,250
No.
630
00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:02,130
I Yeah.
631
00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:02,690
Go ahead, bud.
632
00:31:02,849 --> 00:31:08,450
Point, like you were saying, you were talking
to some guys at TPC, you know, and then you
633
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:12,369
got, like, you know, like, Phil's out, point a
match that everybody's excited about with
634
00:31:12,369 --> 00:31:13,349
Wesley Bryan.
635
00:31:13,894 --> 00:31:18,134
And, like, I think all this shit, like, it's a
golf fan want.
636
00:31:18,134 --> 00:31:19,494
It's a public want.
637
00:31:19,494 --> 00:31:24,054
It sounds to me like a majority of players
really could give a shit less if those guys
638
00:31:24,054 --> 00:31:25,654
come back or if they can play there.
639
00:31:25,654 --> 00:31:27,210
Like, they're just kinda like, yeah.
640
00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:27,769
I don't know.
641
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:28,410
Well, cool.
642
00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:29,450
If it happens, great.
643
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:35,369
Like, I don't think there's this army
internally on both sides that are fighting to
644
00:31:35,369 --> 00:31:36,910
play the golf with each other again.
645
00:31:37,769 --> 00:31:37,930
No.
646
00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:39,930
I absolutely agree with that.
647
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:43,264
The guys, like I said, there were a few guys.
648
00:31:46,044 --> 00:31:50,944
The difficult part about this is nobody really
has any patience anymore.
649
00:31:51,484 --> 00:31:54,044
The guy that was on the board, I asked him flat
out.
650
00:31:54,044 --> 00:31:56,799
I said, do you even do are you even locked into
this anymore?
651
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,579
It was a year ago he was on the board.
652
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:03,859
And it was like, dude, like, all of this takes
away from golf.
653
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,000
All of it takes away from our ability to
compete and play well and make money and take
654
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,015
care of our families and all that stuff.
655
00:32:10,015 --> 00:32:14,734
And going back to my point about Xander and
Scottie, and it kinda builds off exactly what
656
00:32:14,734 --> 00:32:15,615
you just said.
657
00:32:15,615 --> 00:32:17,394
It's like nobody cares.
658
00:32:17,695 --> 00:32:21,390
The people that are playing the best golf, they
don't care who it is against.
659
00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:27,150
And this idea that, well, we just wanna play,
you know, with the best product to put forth.
660
00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:30,589
And the only people that are talking about that
are those that are on the board and Rory
661
00:32:30,589 --> 00:32:31,089
McIlroy.
662
00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:36,054
Everybody else just doesn't give a shit anymore
and just wanna get back to playing real golf
663
00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:38,954
for a shitload of money and for a lot of
accolades.
664
00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:42,134
You would think Tiger would care because think
665
00:32:42,134 --> 00:32:42,575
he does.
666
00:32:42,855 --> 00:32:44,075
Because of legacy.
667
00:32:44,214 --> 00:32:44,535
Right?
668
00:32:44,535 --> 00:32:49,829
Like, you don't wanna be the last one to set
the bar before it breaks apart, and we no
669
00:32:49,829 --> 00:32:55,029
longer have the best product to represent, you
know, his records or Jack or those guys.
670
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:56,009
Does that make sense?
671
00:32:56,309 --> 00:32:56,710
It does.
672
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:57,190
It does.
673
00:32:57,190 --> 00:33:01,505
And one of the things that Jason Gore and I,
I've he he and I talked to literally that day
674
00:33:01,505 --> 00:33:05,825
that they dropped that Tuesday that they
dropped, you know, in 2023 when they dropped
675
00:33:05,825 --> 00:33:07,684
the, you know, the merger possibility.
676
00:33:07,744 --> 00:33:07,984
Right?
677
00:33:07,984 --> 00:33:11,519
They're kinda, you know, the base deal that
they were gonna have a deal.
678
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,640
And I said, who do you trust that's there?
679
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,019
And he says, I trust Tiger above everybody
because of that legacy point.
680
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,080
The issue is six months later, I have the same
conversation with him and he just shakes his
681
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,559
head.
682
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:32,295
And the point is that Tiger doesn't give a shit
about his legacy because his legacy is already
683
00:33:32,295 --> 00:33:33,194
set in stone.
684
00:33:33,414 --> 00:33:39,015
And if it means that he and his best buddies
can go make a shitload of money and can play in
685
00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:44,450
a 30-man PGA Tour season with 15 events, that's
what he cares about.
686
00:33:44,450 --> 00:33:49,490
He doesn't care about having the history or
anything like that because they're already
687
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:50,289
breaking that down.
688
00:33:50,289 --> 00:33:52,309
I mean, well, it's ridiculous.
689
00:33:52,609 --> 00:33:57,444
The problem with that for me though is, like,
now if there's going to continue to be two
690
00:33:57,444 --> 00:34:03,525
products forever, then there's never a chance
for another guy to break out to come along and
691
00:34:03,525 --> 00:34:04,164
be Tiger.
692
00:34:04,164 --> 00:34:08,025
Not that there ever will, but let's just say
that somebody's close.
693
00:34:09,284 --> 00:34:15,180
They'll never be able to sniff, you know, his
accolades because it just won't—it's not the
694
00:34:15,180 --> 00:34:16,239
same product anymore.
695
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:17,680
It's not the same playing field.
696
00:34:17,739 --> 00:34:20,059
Does Scottie—I get a question to both of you
guys.
697
00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:25,500
Does Scottie's year stand up to any of the
years that Tiger had where he dominated like
698
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:26,000
that?
699
00:34:27,985 --> 00:34:28,304
No.
700
00:34:28,304 --> 00:34:29,105
Not yet.
701
00:34:29,105 --> 00:34:29,844
Let me know.
702
00:34:30,224 --> 00:34:32,065
It's just a—this is a math game.
703
00:34:32,065 --> 00:34:32,224
Right?
704
00:34:32,224 --> 00:34:37,425
But if somebody else were to come out, let's
just say five years, 10 years from now, and
705
00:34:37,425 --> 00:34:41,684
they start doing something, they're on track to
even come close to what you know?
706
00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:43,070
Just some phenom.
707
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:43,309
Right?
708
00:34:43,309 --> 00:34:45,329
Like, let's just say for shits and giggles.
709
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:49,869
And they do come close to that, and they do
play like that, and they do just beat the
710
00:34:49,869 --> 00:34:54,510
living shit out of these guys and win that many
majors even in a world where everybody's so
711
00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:59,505
tight and so good, if that ever happens, if
that individual ever comes out and you got this
712
00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:01,005
being the Y in the road
713
00:35:01,484 --> 00:35:01,884
Mhmm.
714
00:35:01,884 --> 00:35:02,364
Mhmm.
715
00:35:02,444 --> 00:35:04,525
That's gonna it's not the same.
716
00:35:04,525 --> 00:35:05,164
Like, okay.
717
00:35:05,164 --> 00:35:08,820
That's pretty good, but, you know, I was
playing against these guys, and this is yeah.
718
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:09,219
Yeah.
719
00:35:09,219 --> 00:35:14,599
So is Scottie's year, is Scottie's year, does
it have an asterisk on it because of that?
720
00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:16,180
To some degree, I think, yeah.
721
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:16,840
For sure.
722
00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:23,140
I mean, you got guys that would have been out
there, that do that have and do and can still
723
00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:25,434
win out there that would have been in the
field.
724
00:35:25,434 --> 00:35:28,175
And by taking them out of the field, it's like
NASCAR.
725
00:35:28,315 --> 00:35:34,315
Like, you take, you know, one of the best
drivers out and say he's never racing again,
726
00:35:34,315 --> 00:35:37,375
but he used to be my number two, number three,
number four opponent.
727
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,199
And now I win everything.
728
00:35:40,139 --> 00:35:41,760
You're not it's not the same.
729
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:43,099
I absolutely agree.
730
00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:47,099
And that was always that was always one of the
amazing things about this idea that they're
731
00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:48,400
putting out the best product.
732
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,019
Right?
733
00:35:49,019 --> 00:35:51,340
That that this is what the fans wanna see.
734
00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:51,659
Right?
735
00:35:51,659 --> 00:35:57,704
And immediately get response with exactly what
we started the show with which was on average,
736
00:35:57,765 --> 00:36:01,144
the viewership is down 20 to 25% across the
board.
737
00:36:01,285 --> 00:36:01,605
Yeah.
738
00:36:01,605 --> 00:36:04,585
And and that's by the way, that's not a small
margin.
739
00:36:04,644 --> 00:36:06,265
I mean, that's a huge percentage.
740
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:07,219
Can't reach
741
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,984
out to market.
742
00:36:07,984 --> 00:36:14,239
I mean, my question, I guess, Matt, you guys
are far more intelligent with this than I am.
743
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:20,984
But as far as marketing is concerned, from a
business standpoint, wouldn't that mean that
744
00:36:20,984 --> 00:36:24,605
the product is worth less if fewer people are
viewing it?
745
00:36:24,744 --> 00:36:25,244
Correct.
746
00:36:25,945 --> 00:36:31,945
I then I I just if it's I I if it I mean, I
assume that it's it's pretty cut and dry.
747
00:36:31,945 --> 00:36:38,909
So, you know, saying that 2026 is gonna somehow
be this amazing thing, you know, one of the
748
00:36:38,909 --> 00:36:42,909
things that some one of the guys said today was
that, you know, they're gonna play, you know,
749
00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:46,750
8, 9 events and think it's the greatest thing
ever, and then they realize that it's the same
750
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:49,835
people every week doing the same stuff.
751
00:36:50,135 --> 00:36:54,695
And then all of a sudden, you're a third of the
way through the schedule with 30 more events to
752
00:36:54,695 --> 00:36:57,914
go, and nobody's showing up.
753
00:36:58,295 --> 00:37:00,554
So so There's there's no chance doing?
754
00:37:00,695 --> 00:37:00,934
Yeah.
755
00:37:00,934 --> 00:37:02,715
There's no breakout Monday qualifier.
756
00:37:02,855 --> 00:37:03,574
There's no chance
757
00:37:03,574 --> 00:37:03,974
for that
758
00:37:03,974 --> 00:37:04,910
to happen anymore.
759
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:09,150
Patrick Reed disappears because that's how he
made it on the PGA Tour.
760
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:09,470
Right?
761
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:13,869
Scottie Scheffler, by the way, who his own dad
said if the Korn Ferry Tour didn't exist, you
762
00:37:13,869 --> 00:37:15,809
would never know who Scottie Scheffler was.
763
00:37:15,869 --> 00:37:17,809
Scottie Scheffler doesn't exist.
764
00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:18,430
Right?
765
00:37:18,430 --> 00:37:23,464
I mean, to say the argument, well, the best
will the cream of the crop, you know, always
766
00:37:23,704 --> 00:37:25,405
just stop.
767
00:37:25,625 --> 00:37:26,424
Just enough.
768
00:37:26,424 --> 00:37:27,704
Go back to the way it was.
769
00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:29,464
It's supposed to be merit-based.
770
00:37:29,464 --> 00:37:30,424
Play your ass off.
771
00:37:30,424 --> 00:37:30,585
Yes.
772
00:37:30,585 --> 00:37:32,525
I am playing in the Waste Management Monday.
773
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:38,070
Actually playing in three: Sony, Farmers, and
then Waste Management.
774
00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:40,409
Waste Management will be my first time playing
that one.
775
00:37:40,469 --> 00:37:41,289
Let's go.
776
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:44,090
But see, you'll be on the bag.
777
00:37:44,469 --> 00:37:45,344
Oh, I will.
778
00:37:45,505 --> 00:37:46,565
I'm trained.
779
00:37:47,105 --> 00:37:49,364
Only because I don't know anything about that
golf course.
780
00:37:49,824 --> 00:37:50,644
There you go.
781
00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:52,385
Alright.
782
00:37:52,385 --> 00:37:55,284
Let's move it into PGA Tour Studios.
783
00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:56,144
Oh.
784
00:37:56,144 --> 00:37:56,625
Right.
785
00:37:56,625 --> 00:38:00,085
So what changes do you expect in 2025?
786
00:38:00,465 --> 00:38:03,569
Now they've launched their brand new studios.
787
00:38:03,569 --> 00:38:06,469
They put in millions of dollars into this
facility.
788
00:38:07,089 --> 00:38:13,489
And, you know, they've got all their social
media people now that are going to be a part of
789
00:38:13,489 --> 00:38:20,585
this, like Paige Spiranac and Bob Does Sports
and, you know, Fore Play.
790
00:38:20,585 --> 00:38:26,264
So you're going to be seeing a lot more through
social media because of those outlets and what
791
00:38:26,264 --> 00:38:27,224
they're doing there.
792
00:38:27,224 --> 00:38:29,940
And I think they've got them for a lot of
collaborations.
793
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,940
But what do you expect out of these new PGA
Tour Studios?
794
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,460
We've already seen, like, a massive increase in
drone footage.
795
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:40,800
I mean, my god.
796
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,255
Everything on Instagram is like just a wild
elaborate drone shot.
797
00:38:45,255 --> 00:38:46,454
They weren't doing that before.
798
00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:50,375
So somebody's doing something a little
different even out of the gate, but that's more
799
00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:51,574
of a joke than anything else.
800
00:38:51,574 --> 00:38:53,275
That's what I've seen so far.
801
00:38:53,894 --> 00:38:54,795
Lots of drones.
802
00:38:54,855 --> 00:38:55,994
Lot of drone footage.
803
00:38:57,730 --> 00:38:58,449
Oh my god.
804
00:38:58,690 --> 00:38:59,730
Of which, hang on.
805
00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:00,769
TriGolfer brings up.
806
00:39:00,769 --> 00:39:02,949
Did you guys see the new pro for Barstool?
807
00:39:03,329 --> 00:39:03,730
No.
808
00:39:03,730 --> 00:39:04,549
Who is it?
809
00:39:04,769 --> 00:39:05,909
So it's this
810
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:07,190
They signed somebody?
811
00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:13,755
That they have this massive dude that probably
is 3 he he would he puts you to shame, Buttsy,
812
00:39:13,755 --> 00:39:14,815
in terms of size.
813
00:39:15,034 --> 00:39:18,335
Like, this guy is maybe 2 times the size of
you.
814
00:39:18,474 --> 00:39:18,795
Wow.
815
00:39:18,795 --> 00:39:21,614
Just massive, massive being.
816
00:39:22,074 --> 00:39:23,934
And they call him Beef.
817
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:25,559
So
818
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,940
That's not original.
819
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,099
There's already a golfer named Beef.
820
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:29,880
I know.
821
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,000
They they What are we doing?
822
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,880
Come on, guys.
823
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Get get
824
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,760
over here.
825
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,559
I haven't seen his social media stuff, so I
can't comment on it.
826
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:36,280
Is this Riggs?
827
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,385
Is this this is is this Dave?
828
00:39:38,385 --> 00:39:41,445
Apparently, this is Dave Portnoy who signed him
up.
829
00:39:41,585 --> 00:39:41,985
Whoa.
830
00:39:41,985 --> 00:39:43,585
So I thought he brought him on to
831
00:39:45,265 --> 00:39:51,364
So they they have their own they have their own
podcasts, Barstool does for golf is foreplay.
832
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:52,139
Foreplay.
833
00:39:52,359 --> 00:39:52,679
Okay.
834
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:53,480
That's Fore Play.
835
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,320
Now a lot of people are kinda tired of Fore
Play in a lot of ways, but now they've got the
836
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,619
tie-in with the PGA Tour, which they had
previously as well.
837
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,795
They're breaking in this golf professional
beef.
838
00:40:08,175 --> 00:40:08,655
And
839
00:40:08,894 --> 00:40:11,235
Is this that guy that I sent you a few months
ago?
840
00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:12,355
What's he?
841
00:40:12,815 --> 00:40:13,215
Could be.
842
00:40:13,215 --> 00:40:13,855
I'm not familiar.
843
00:40:13,855 --> 00:40:15,175
I have no idea what Matt's talking about.
844
00:40:15,295 --> 00:40:16,815
Saw him, I know he I I would I would
845
00:40:16,894 --> 00:40:18,255
You guys will have to look into this.
846
00:40:18,255 --> 00:40:22,150
It's, you know, it's it's a typical move.
847
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:25,190
I feel like because you just look at this guy
and you kind of
848
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:25,670
laugh and
849
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:26,489
you're like, okay.
850
00:40:26,869 --> 00:40:32,309
So he's going to be a lovable fella because of
his size, I believe.
851
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:33,849
And that's kind of the appeal.
852
00:40:34,235 --> 00:40:36,315
It is a classic Barstool guy.
853
00:40:36,315 --> 00:40:38,655
So we'll just leave it at that.
854
00:40:39,594 --> 00:40:45,275
But going back to the PGA Tour studios and
everything that's gonna be changing, I mean,
855
00:40:45,275 --> 00:40:49,380
Brent, you were kinda on the side that you
don't feel like anything's gonna change.
856
00:40:49,779 --> 00:40:50,259
No.
857
00:40:50,259 --> 00:40:54,179
And they were talking to us about this, you
know, three, four, five years ago about how
858
00:40:54,179 --> 00:40:56,819
they were putting all this money into building
these buildings.
859
00:40:56,819 --> 00:41:03,704
And and and we were all a little lost as far as
how they came up with, you know, tens and tens
860
00:41:03,704 --> 00:41:08,264
of millions of dollars to to build this and how
they're gonna bring all the footage under one
861
00:41:08,264 --> 00:41:11,404
roof, and that means that it'll be more
organized.
862
00:41:11,784 --> 00:41:17,539
And they were trying to spin it as to how that
would benefit us of which they were obviously
863
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:18,820
failures at doing.
864
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:26,880
But all in all, they have get they've had, you
know, a pretty big part in how the golf how
865
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,525
golf is viewed over the last ever.
866
00:41:29,744 --> 00:41:33,924
So nothing about their track record tells me
that anything's gonna be positive.
867
00:41:33,984 --> 00:41:38,864
So, I'm not hoping, because I don't give a
shit.
868
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:46,559
But at the same time, I just wanna see these
fucking idiots go out there, and they get their
869
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:51,039
little mics, and they got their little deal,
and they interview golfers, and they interview
870
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,760
somebody like a Brooks or somebody like that
that is totally nonchalant and will just tell
871
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,775
you to your face.
872
00:41:56,934 --> 00:42:01,034
And you get some idiot off a Barstool or Fore
Play, whatever the fuck.
873
00:42:01,335 --> 00:42:05,414
And the guy looks at him and goes, you've never
played a competitive round of golf in your
874
00:42:05,414 --> 00:42:05,914
life.
875
00:42:06,135 --> 00:42:07,914
Get the fuck away from me.
876
00:42:08,054 --> 00:42:10,074
Like, you're just a distraction.
877
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:11,639
So no.
878
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,500
But they will get paid to say that.
879
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:14,760
Well no.
880
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,960
But they will just look at them and be very
short and curt unless they're getting paid.
881
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,679
If they get paid, then they'll be the nicest
human beings in the world.
882
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:23,319
But if not
883
00:42:24,525 --> 00:42:26,284
well, that's where I see this kind of going.
884
00:42:26,284 --> 00:42:26,605
Right?
885
00:42:26,605 --> 00:42:35,105
Is that with all this partnership with these
social media personalities, we're seeing that
886
00:42:35,405 --> 00:42:38,605
there's more matches that are going on with PGA
Tour guys.
887
00:42:38,605 --> 00:42:40,739
There's more content that's being created.
888
00:42:40,739 --> 00:42:47,320
Even the TGL, like they had Jerry After Dark
with Barstool doing a whole promo for the TGL.
889
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:48,840
So it's like
890
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:50,340
they're putting money in
891
00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:53,320
this, this could be different.
892
00:42:53,744 --> 00:42:57,444
And it could actually be in a lot of ways.
893
00:42:58,304 --> 00:42:59,904
I mentioned this from time to time.
894
00:42:59,904 --> 00:43:04,884
I know you like to shoot this one down, Brent,
but I kind of see this as the SSG kind of push
895
00:43:04,944 --> 00:43:11,699
around the media side for other major sports as
to how to get big within your sport by
896
00:43:11,699 --> 00:43:15,800
utilizing other media outlets and social media
influencers and so forth.
897
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:22,920
Hockey's done it a lot with, Spittin' Chiclets,
which is the hockey Barstool podcast.
898
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:23,619
Well,
899
00:43:23,619 --> 00:43:23,940
I bet
900
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:25,239
it was a couple weeks ago.
901
00:43:25,594 --> 00:43:29,514
It's it's the modern day Shell's Wonderful
World of Golf.
902
00:43:29,514 --> 00:43:29,914
Like, it
903
00:43:29,914 --> 00:43:31,755
it's it's turning into that.
904
00:43:31,755 --> 00:43:31,994
Yeah.
905
00:43:31,994 --> 00:43:32,494
Alright.
906
00:43:32,554 --> 00:43:33,034
Listen.
907
00:43:33,034 --> 00:43:39,135
I I saw the video as if it was the first time I
had seen anything since the the dome crash.
908
00:43:40,289 --> 00:43:45,010
And what I'm what my former agent is now their
their head of of players relations there, and
909
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:46,950
and we had a pretty long talk about it.
910
00:43:47,570 --> 00:43:47,890
Listen.
911
00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:50,230
I'm I'm hopeful that those guys get blown up.
912
00:43:50,769 --> 00:43:56,135
I do I think that it's gonna be any sort of
replacement for anything.
913
00:43:56,135 --> 00:43:56,375
No.
914
00:43:56,375 --> 00:44:00,155
I think it may or may not fill a gap that's
that's there.
915
00:44:00,614 --> 00:44:05,015
But SSG is is absolutely doing what what
they've done in other sports, and I totally
916
00:44:05,015 --> 00:44:11,039
agree that that they're they're investing as
much as they can, in growing a product that
917
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:12,319
they have a lot of investment in.
918
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:13,280
And and hey.
919
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,839
You know what?
920
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:18,659
I mean, I'm wasting how many millions are being
wasted into the TGL?
921
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,940
Any guess wasted?
922
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,155
So this is this is actually our next topic for
expectations.
923
00:44:24,215 --> 00:44:30,775
What are what are our expectations for the TGL,
which begins on January 7?
924
00:44:30,775 --> 00:44:31,255
So I
925
00:44:31,255 --> 00:44:32,474
think it looks awesome.
926
00:44:33,894 --> 00:44:35,574
You've come around big time.
927
00:44:35,574 --> 00:44:36,030
Yes.
928
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:36,989
I I No.
929
00:44:36,989 --> 00:44:38,030
It looks amazing.
930
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:39,409
It looks incredible.
931
00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:45,070
Gonna be something that I wanna watch when I'm
hanging out at night and the time frame and the
932
00:44:45,070 --> 00:44:45,949
spot that it'll fill.
933
00:44:45,949 --> 00:44:48,364
I mean, having prime-time golf and, like, I
think they're
934
00:44:48,364 --> 00:44:48,944
really exciting.
935
00:44:49,484 --> 00:44:49,964
and on Monday.
936
00:44:50,125 --> 00:44:50,844
Super cool.
937
00:44:50,844 --> 00:44:56,204
That 5-story screen, and it's super accurate
and actually hitting real short game shots and
938
00:44:56,204 --> 00:45:00,924
watch you guys be able to kinda hole out flop
shots and shit, like and actually make putts.
939
00:45:00,924 --> 00:45:02,304
Like, it's gonna be exciting.
940
00:45:03,059 --> 00:45:05,059
Their first one is next Tuesday, actually.
941
00:45:05,059 --> 00:45:05,619
Oh, is it Tuesday?
942
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:06,260
Gonna have with that.
943
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:07,559
We're gonna have a watch party.
944
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:09,219
I feel like it.
945
00:45:09,219 --> 00:45:10,200
I mean, shoot.
946
00:45:10,579 --> 00:45:11,079
Yeah.
947
00:45:11,140 --> 00:45:12,039
Could be fun.
948
00:45:12,340 --> 00:45:12,739
Yep.
949
00:45:12,739 --> 00:45:13,239
Yeah.
950
00:45:13,539 --> 00:45:19,775
The expectation is that they fulfill all of
this investment, and it doesn't, you know, end
951
00:45:19,775 --> 00:45:24,255
up like the Las Vegas Sphere and loses a
shitload of money every year.
952
00:45:24,815 --> 00:45:26,114
But, I mean, who knows?
953
00:45:26,494 --> 00:45:32,349
I just don't see I don't see how we don't have
any base.
954
00:45:32,349 --> 00:45:34,929
We don't have any data at all.
955
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:37,730
Well, we're gonna get it here shortly with
ESPN.
956
00:45:38,190 --> 00:45:38,829
I mean Yeah.
957
00:45:38,829 --> 00:45:40,349
Well, not only ESPN, though.
958
00:45:40,349 --> 00:45:42,429
Sky Sports is also signed up now.
959
00:45:42,429 --> 00:45:46,945
So the biggest UK outlet and then you got
really the biggest U.S.
960
00:45:47,324 --> 00:45:48,625
outlet with ESPN.
961
00:45:48,684 --> 00:45:51,405
I mean, so you got the platforms you're going
to have.
962
00:45:51,405 --> 00:45:51,804
Yeah.
963
00:45:51,804 --> 00:45:53,885
Hopefully the viewership that's going to be
there.
964
00:45:53,885 --> 00:45:56,125
There's a shitload of money behind it for sure.
965
00:45:56,125 --> 00:45:57,644
There's there's no doubt about that.
966
00:45:57,644 --> 00:45:57,885
Yeah.
967
00:45:57,885 --> 00:45:58,784
There's a ton.
968
00:45:59,150 --> 00:46:01,070
But I told you guys, this is real.
969
00:46:01,070 --> 00:46:04,750
This is not like one of the best things that
ever happened to them.
970
00:46:04,750 --> 00:46:09,730
Because if this went through last year, they
would have been it would have been a debacle.
971
00:46:09,869 --> 00:46:11,489
It wasn't ready.
972
00:46:12,054 --> 00:46:18,695
And when they destroyed the SoFi Arena last
year before they were supposed to launch, they
973
00:46:18,695 --> 00:46:22,074
were like, hey, we're gonna delay the TGL for a
year.
974
00:46:22,135 --> 00:46:29,159
Somebody very smart sabotaged that arena
because this entire thing, it wasn't their
975
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:30,219
technology was
976
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,000
right.
977
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,699
They were trying to use Doppler radar.
978
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,320
They were trying to do it for so much of it.
979
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,195
Now they're using Toptracer technology, which
is camera-based.
980
00:46:41,195 --> 00:46:45,755
They've done a lot of stuff in that time, and
now it's ready for prime time.
981
00:46:45,755 --> 00:46:46,394
And it looks
982
00:46:46,394 --> 00:46:46,715
sick.
983
00:46:46,715 --> 00:46:47,855
It looks sick.
984
00:46:47,994 --> 00:46:48,394
Yeah.
985
00:46:48,394 --> 00:46:57,190
Do you guys think that this will break the
curse that the PGA Tour has, with regards to
986
00:46:57,190 --> 00:47:02,630
making decisions and then sort of saying, well,
we'll see how it goes kind of thing and then
987
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:05,430
kind of, like, backstepping and going, oh, no.
988
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:09,315
We're gonna go in a different direction and
kind of just playing this game of we hope and
989
00:47:09,315 --> 00:47:09,635
see?
990
00:47:09,635 --> 00:47:16,295
Do you think that this break, this accident
gave them the opportunity to break that curse?
991
00:47:17,554 --> 00:47:18,054
Yeah.
992
00:47:18,675 --> 00:47:19,635
I hope so.
993
00:47:19,635 --> 00:47:20,034
Listen.
994
00:47:20,434 --> 00:47:26,469
I'm a huge skeptic because it's not real golf,
but there's a shitload of money behind it, and
995
00:47:26,469 --> 00:47:32,789
I would hate to see some because I do enjoy
watching, you know, these guys kinda get after
996
00:47:32,789 --> 00:47:35,510
it, and we'll see what happens.
997
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:38,755
I'll give you a little insight here.
998
00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:39,795
Here's what I think.
999
00:47:39,795 --> 00:47:41,735
YouTube golf is not real golf.
1000
00:47:41,795 --> 00:47:43,255
It's not even for us.
1001
00:47:43,394 --> 00:47:44,434
There's guys out there
1002
00:47:44,675 --> 00:47:45,394
which is why we're
1003
00:47:45,394 --> 00:47:45,715
talking about
1004
00:47:45,715 --> 00:47:46,454
the milk.
1005
00:47:46,755 --> 00:47:51,554
I mean, they're chugging a gallon of milk every
hole, and millions of people are watching that.
1006
00:47:51,554 --> 00:47:56,690
So if you even get a little bit of these guys
letting their hair down and it's super
1007
00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:59,910
exciting, I think they're gonna do just fine.
1008
00:48:00,050 --> 00:48:04,690
I think we've talked about how the trash talk
is going to be a part of this too.
1009
00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:05,410
It has to be.
1010
00:48:05,410 --> 00:48:06,210
Ricky has to.
1011
00:48:06,804 --> 00:48:07,364
That's the thing.
1012
00:48:07,364 --> 00:48:13,045
It's like the number one, you know, most Arnold
Palmer-esque person of our generation is Rickie
1013
00:48:13,045 --> 00:48:13,545
Fowler.
1014
00:48:13,684 --> 00:48:20,405
And regardless of what you think of his play,
he absolutely is the biggest draw as far as a
1015
00:48:20,405 --> 00:48:24,909
genuine personality, a good dude, and he's just
an absolute baller.
1016
00:48:25,289 --> 00:48:30,489
So, I mean, I hope he brings it, and I hope he
elevates everybody else because God knows Tiger
1017
00:48:30,489 --> 00:48:32,670
and Rory and those guys aren't gonna do it.
1018
00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:34,190
They're all robots.
1019
00:48:35,105 --> 00:48:39,585
But, yeah, I mean, some of those guys on those
teams, I mean, Sahith's freaking he's
1020
00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:40,085
hilarious.
1021
00:48:40,545 --> 00:48:45,505
I mean, they got some guys on there that are
gonna be able to bring some personality, some
1022
00:48:45,505 --> 00:48:46,545
genuine personality.
1023
00:48:46,545 --> 00:48:47,855
Who's not a potato?
1024
00:48:48,380 --> 00:48:49,019
Who's this the
1025
00:48:49,019 --> 00:48:49,519
dude?
1026
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:51,519
Roger Steele is one of them.
1027
00:48:51,579 --> 00:48:52,079
Okay.
1028
00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:54,059
Who who'd you say, Brent?
1029
00:48:54,059 --> 00:48:54,940
I said, Matt Cook.
1030
00:48:54,940 --> 00:48:55,760
Come on, bud.
1031
00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:57,739
Dude, that that would be
1032
00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:58,619
cookie monster.
1033
00:48:58,619 --> 00:48:59,300
That would be phenomenal.
1034
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:01,599
I would absolutely do that in a heartbeat.
1035
00:49:01,739 --> 00:49:06,964
But Roger Steele, I think, is, like, the course
or on course, like, talking to the guys and
1036
00:49:06,964 --> 00:49:08,664
stuff, which that makes sense.
1037
00:49:08,964 --> 00:49:11,684
Then, you've got oh, gosh.
1038
00:49:11,684 --> 00:49:12,324
Who is it?
1039
00:49:12,324 --> 00:49:13,304
Scott Van Pelt.
1040
00:49:14,244 --> 00:49:15,045
And really?
1041
00:49:15,284 --> 00:49:16,164
There's another one.
1042
00:49:16,164 --> 00:49:16,724
Hang on.
1043
00:49:16,724 --> 00:49:18,090
I'll I'll find it real quick.
1044
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:21,369
They need to resurrect Gary McCord and just put
him back out there.
1045
00:49:21,369 --> 00:49:22,010
Oh my gosh.
1046
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:22,650
How about that?
1047
00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:24,170
Gary McCord, David Feherty.
1048
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:27,450
That was one of the things that pissed me off
about the match among many things.
1049
00:49:27,450 --> 00:49:30,829
But, Feherty was just an afterthought.
1050
00:49:31,224 --> 00:49:37,065
He would say two words, and then Charles
Barkley or whomever would just trounce the
1051
00:49:37,065 --> 00:49:37,565
conversation.
1052
00:49:37,625 --> 00:49:41,704
It's like, the rest of that panel was just
worthless compared to Feherty.
1053
00:49:41,704 --> 00:49:45,085
And I just I wish they would've let Feherty do
his thing.
1054
00:49:45,250 --> 00:49:45,730
Yeah.
1055
00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:50,130
Talk shit about the cold, talk shit about the
night, talk shit about all of it, and it would
1056
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:53,890
all be relevant because, you know, he's been
doing it for so damn
1057
00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:54,130
long.
1058
00:49:54,130 --> 00:49:54,369
Okay.
1059
00:49:54,369 --> 00:49:55,670
So here's what it is.
1060
00:49:55,730 --> 00:49:57,329
You got the broadcast team.
1061
00:49:57,329 --> 00:50:01,644
So the host is gonna be Scott Van Pelt, which
is huge.
1062
00:50:01,784 --> 00:50:01,945
I
1063
00:50:01,945 --> 00:50:03,565
mean, Scott Van Pelt is phenomenal.
1064
00:50:04,025 --> 00:50:04,844
OG, that guy.
1065
00:50:05,144 --> 00:50:07,144
And he's been in golf for such a long time.
1066
00:50:07,144 --> 00:50:08,925
Obviously, does the Masters broadcast.
1067
00:50:09,385 --> 00:50:14,284
You got Matt Barrie, who is a big golfer in and
of himself, ASU guy.
1068
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:16,230
He's gonna be doing the play-by-play.
1069
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:17,829
And then you got Marty Smith.
1070
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:21,430
You guys know Marty Smith does a lot of the
NASCAR stuff in college football.
1071
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:21,910
Oh, yeah.
1072
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:22,150
Yeah.
1073
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:22,309
Yeah.
1074
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:23,190
The dude with the hair.
1075
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:23,590
Yep.
1076
00:50:23,590 --> 00:50:25,349
He's really good as well.
1077
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:27,930
And then you've got, oh, boy.
1078
00:50:28,304 --> 00:50:31,585
You've got digital hosts, Jamal Webster.
1079
00:50:31,585 --> 00:50:33,025
I don't know who that is.
1080
00:50:33,025 --> 00:50:34,464
And then Claire Rogers.
1081
00:50:34,464 --> 00:50:39,844
So I believe she's with golf.com, which she's a
big Twitter
1082
00:50:41,264 --> 00:50:41,764
person.
1083
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,760
And then you got Invenue MC, which is Roger
Steele.
1084
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,920
So I guess he's not the I don't know exactly
what his role is as the Invenue MC.
1085
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,200
I kinda assume
1086
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,284
that like like announcing who's who's hitting.
1087
00:50:55,284 --> 00:50:56,164
Oh, that's right.
1088
00:50:56,164 --> 00:50:56,565
You're right.
1089
00:50:56,565 --> 00:50:56,885
Okay.
1090
00:50:56,965 --> 00:50:57,605
On the team.
1091
00:50:57,605 --> 00:51:02,005
I mean, what a great gig for any of those
people to be a part of that.
1092
00:51:02,005 --> 00:51:08,505
But I do tell you right now, I told you guys
from the beginning, this is real.
1093
00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:13,360
This is going to be a success because there's
too much money and power behind it.
1094
00:51:16,059 --> 00:51:17,099
Too big to fail?
1095
00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:22,559
Here's what I think you're missing out on is
that this is not a PGA Tour operation.
1096
00:51:23,184 --> 00:51:27,105
This is a Tomorrow Golf League operation to
where
1097
00:51:27,105 --> 00:51:27,824
it's a game show.
1098
00:51:27,824 --> 00:51:28,065
Yeah.
1099
00:51:28,065 --> 00:51:30,005
Well, this is behind it.
1100
00:51:30,065 --> 00:51:36,304
This is Tiger and Rory's, like they're the two
founders behind this with a bunch of tech guys
1101
00:51:36,304 --> 00:51:36,864
and everything.
1102
00:51:36,864 --> 00:51:42,000
And I got to tell you, like PGA Tour put their
stamp of approval all over it because of LIV
1103
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,480
Golf.
1104
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,119
Well, that
1105
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:50,159
might have been a lot more difficult of a
conversation if LIV Golf didn't kind of move
1106
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:55,785
the needle when it came to, you know, allowing
these guys to do a little bit more.
1107
00:51:55,925 --> 00:51:58,005
So that's why I think it's going to be a
success.
1108
00:51:58,005 --> 00:51:59,525
You got ESPN behind it.
1109
00:51:59,525 --> 00:52:02,184
You've obviously got the broadcast coming from
ESPN.
1110
00:52:02,644 --> 00:52:06,325
I just think it's going to be a big success
moving into next year.
1111
00:52:06,325 --> 00:52:11,409
I know a lot of people and this is also going
to really help improve the entire perception
1112
00:52:11,949 --> 00:52:13,070
about indoor golf.
1113
00:52:13,070 --> 00:52:15,550
I think it's going to do a lot.
1114
00:52:15,550 --> 00:52:17,809
Maybe a lot of fun to bet on as well.
1115
00:52:18,269 --> 00:52:18,769
Yes.
1116
00:52:18,909 --> 00:52:19,789
Well, I guess that's
1117
00:52:19,789 --> 00:52:25,925
that's gonna be I mean, you're gonna see as as
as by the way, as frustrating as it is to watch
1118
00:52:25,925 --> 00:52:31,045
18 million gambling commercials every single
time you watch golf or anything for that
1119
00:52:31,045 --> 00:52:31,445
matter.
1120
00:52:31,445 --> 00:52:33,445
But did I do that?
1121
00:52:33,445 --> 00:52:33,684
No.
1122
00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:35,224
That was, that was Urkel.
1123
00:52:35,285 --> 00:52:36,585
Did I do that?
1124
00:52:36,805 --> 00:52:37,625
That's Urkel.
1125
00:52:38,269 --> 00:52:38,510
Yeah.
1126
00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:39,949
But what was Urkel's real name?
1127
00:52:39,949 --> 00:52:40,269
Gosh.
1128
00:52:40,269 --> 00:52:41,309
I I told you.
1129
00:52:41,309 --> 00:52:44,369
He just came out with he just came out with a,
special.
1130
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:46,829
Man, I totally forgot his name.
1131
00:52:46,829 --> 00:52:48,510
But, I don't know, guys.
1132
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:48,829
I mean
1133
00:52:48,989 --> 00:52:51,730
A Bedford Tiger and Perkins fans.
1134
00:52:51,789 --> 00:52:53,889
I heard they're allowing anchoring too.
1135
00:52:54,994 --> 00:52:58,215
So Bernhard Langer is gonna come in and beat
everybody's ass.
1136
00:52:59,875 --> 00:53:00,375
Yeah.
1137
00:53:00,434 --> 00:53:02,355
Brian Shane, you're not far off here, man.
1138
00:53:02,355 --> 00:53:07,335
He said that Pull Hook Golf should be working
as the on-course reporters.
1139
00:53:08,869 --> 00:53:13,050
I would listen to any broadcast that's out
there.
1140
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:17,369
We're 100% ready and willing to go.
1141
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:18,010
Yeah.
1142
00:53:18,550 --> 00:53:23,974
Brent here over here is still playing, so he
might be out for that.
1143
00:53:23,974 --> 00:53:29,815
But Buttsy and I, unless Buttsy doesn't wanna
do it, but I got a feeling that Buttsy and I
1144
00:53:29,815 --> 00:53:31,835
being out there as your two course reporters.
1145
00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:32,875
No.
1146
00:53:33,335 --> 00:53:34,795
That could be dangerous stuff.
1147
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,640
I would train so hard.
1148
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,099
I'd be doing backflips.
1149
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,900
Like, I'll learn how to do backflips while I
was out there.
1150
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,360
I was thinking about that today, actually,
heading into this.
1151
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,059
I'm like, what are my goals for 2025?
1152
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Yeah.
1153
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,820
You doing a backflip, that would be special.
1154
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,744
I'm personally not working on it.
1155
00:53:50,905 --> 00:53:51,065
But I
1156
00:53:51,065 --> 00:53:52,105
was sitting there going, okay.
1157
00:53:52,105 --> 00:53:53,244
My goal is for 2025.
1158
00:53:53,385 --> 00:53:58,184
I'm like, man, what if a broadcast actually did
want me to come in and, like, read a
1159
00:53:58,184 --> 00:53:59,625
teleprompter or whatever it is?
1160
00:53:59,625 --> 00:54:00,525
Like Yeah.
1161
00:54:01,385 --> 00:54:04,916
I would practice my absolute ass off when it
came to it.
1162
00:54:04,916 --> 00:54:07,210
I would try to perform it great for PGA Tour
Live.
1163
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:15,549
I think you would bring a much-needed voice to
that, they they are lacking.
1164
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:17,389
I think you get a start.
1165
00:54:17,449 --> 00:54:18,650
You're close enough to it.
1166
00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:23,025
I think you get a start somewhere along the
lines here with this grass league, especially
1167
00:54:23,265 --> 00:54:23,744
my gosh.
1168
00:54:23,744 --> 00:54:25,265
I really I hope that that that
1169
00:54:25,505 --> 00:54:26,804
In terms of commentary.
1170
00:54:27,105 --> 00:54:27,765
You know?
1171
00:54:28,385 --> 00:54:29,765
I hope that all goes well.
1172
00:54:32,385 --> 00:54:34,710
So this was actually a question.
1173
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:43,110
And as we're going through our expectations for
2025, let's see, if I can go back to this, our
1174
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:49,714
audience member, Trot Golfer, he wants to know,
did Buttsy spill his grass league news to the
1175
00:54:49,714 --> 00:54:50,214
world?
1176
00:54:51,875 --> 00:54:52,114
No.
1177
00:54:52,114 --> 00:54:53,155
I forgot to tell us.
1178
00:54:53,155 --> 00:54:55,815
You did mention you were gonna say that on
tonight's show.
1179
00:54:58,070 --> 00:54:58,469
God.
1180
00:54:58,469 --> 00:55:00,949
I can't really—there's no details, but,
1181
00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:02,070
Oh, now there's no
1182
00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:02,469
details.
1183
00:55:02,469 --> 00:55:03,430
You're so full of shit.
1184
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:04,570
I will say that,
1185
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:05,829
I will say
1186
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:11,829
that the report and the desire to get out there
and hit some balls a couple nights a week, I
1187
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:15,114
was told to start practicing.
1188
00:55:15,335 --> 00:55:16,934
So we'll see.
1189
00:55:16,934 --> 00:55:17,914
There you go.
1190
00:55:18,695 --> 00:55:19,755
There you go.
1191
00:55:19,755 --> 00:55:20,135
All right.
1192
00:55:20,135 --> 00:55:20,241
So
1193
00:55:20,454 --> 00:55:21,594
beyond that.
1194
00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:24,315
No deeds beyond that.
1195
00:55:24,375 --> 00:55:25,574
I like what Brent just said.
1196
00:55:25,574 --> 00:55:26,795
Can you bring that up?
1197
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:35,539
Brent's first question to our tour player would
be, so do you really believe this shit?
1198
00:55:35,539 --> 00:55:38,420
Do you even care about anything that's going on
here?
1199
00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:38,739
No?
1200
00:55:38,739 --> 00:55:38,980
All right.
1201
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:39,795
Moving on.
1202
00:55:40,275 --> 00:55:41,974
Next, I would be his first question.
1203
00:55:42,114 --> 00:55:42,614
Absolutely.
1204
00:55:43,155 --> 00:55:44,214
That would be priceless.
1205
00:55:45,155 --> 00:55:45,554
Yeah.
1206
00:55:45,554 --> 00:55:46,594
You can't hit that shot.
1207
00:55:46,594 --> 00:55:47,574
Give me that club.
1208
00:55:48,514 --> 00:55:49,014
Okay.
1209
00:55:51,394 --> 00:55:52,934
Moving into predictions.
1210
00:55:53,474 --> 00:55:53,954
Okay.
1211
00:55:53,954 --> 00:55:55,190
For 2025.
1212
00:55:55,409 --> 00:55:57,170
We're gonna do a little rapid fire here.
1213
00:55:57,170 --> 00:56:04,289
So, just state what you think it is, and I'm
gonna start off all of these with you, Buttsy,
1214
00:56:04,289 --> 00:56:05,989
and then it's gonna be followed by Brent.
1215
00:56:06,130 --> 00:56:09,829
So, Buttsy, who do you think is gonna be the
most dominant player in 2025?
1216
00:56:10,905 --> 00:56:14,285
Scottie Scheffler wins 10 times and maybe 2
majors.
1217
00:56:14,744 --> 00:56:15,965
Brent, what about you?
1218
00:56:17,864 --> 00:56:19,244
Tough not to say, Scottie.
1219
00:56:19,704 --> 00:56:23,309
But I'm gonna be on the I'm gonna be on the
lookout for Xander here.
1220
00:56:23,390 --> 00:56:26,769
I think he's I think he's, got some unfinished
business.
1221
00:56:27,469 --> 00:56:28,349
Love that you said that.
1222
00:56:28,349 --> 00:56:29,890
I'm gonna go Rory McIlroy.
1223
00:56:30,110 --> 00:56:32,130
I'm gonna go against the trend here.
1224
00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:33,789
Why is that?
1225
00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:34,849
Why?
1226
00:56:35,070 --> 00:56:35,469
Why?
1227
00:56:35,469 --> 00:56:35,869
I just...
1228
00:56:35,949 --> 00:56:36,255
Why?
1229
00:56:36,255 --> 00:56:36,974
I don't know, man.
1230
00:56:36,974 --> 00:56:37,454
I think,
1231
00:56:37,855 --> 00:56:38,094
No.
1232
00:56:38,094 --> 00:56:39,134
Not you, bud.
1233
00:56:39,534 --> 00:56:42,514
I got Brent over here doing sexual gestures
1234
00:56:42,574 --> 00:56:43,454
to a man
1235
00:56:44,134 --> 00:56:45,074
to a disabled man.
1236
00:56:45,134 --> 00:56:49,375
I mean, that guy has got way too much stuff
going on.
1237
00:56:49,375 --> 00:56:50,489
There's no way.
1238
00:56:51,210 --> 00:56:53,469
He'll be able to win when he's comfortable, but
1239
00:56:53,929 --> 00:56:54,989
I'm just saying.
1240
00:56:55,289 --> 00:56:57,530
I think he's gonna have a hell of a year.
1241
00:56:57,530 --> 00:56:57,690
I think
1242
00:56:57,849 --> 00:56:59,210
I wish him all the best.
1243
00:56:59,210 --> 00:57:02,090
He had a lot of stuff going on in 2024, if you
recall.
1244
00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:02,730
He created
1245
00:57:02,969 --> 00:57:06,110
better wearing FootJoy before Nike put him on
steroids.
1246
00:57:06,385 --> 00:57:08,244
Like, it just yeah.
1247
00:57:08,545 --> 00:57:10,164
Neither of you like that one.
1248
00:57:10,545 --> 00:57:12,644
Who's gonna be the breakout player in 2025?
1249
00:57:12,864 --> 00:57:13,364
Buttsy.
1250
00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:16,644
Who's the, Hamilton?
1251
00:57:17,184 --> 00:57:18,244
Is that his name?
1252
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:21,660
Like, the young kid played with Tiger.
1253
00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:23,840
He's kinda he's a thicker dude.
1254
00:57:25,099 --> 00:57:26,160
Played with Tiger.
1255
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:27,900
Yeah.
1256
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:29,579
He played with Tiger and, dude.
1257
00:57:29,579 --> 00:57:30,300
I forget his name.
1258
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:32,640
He's thick, and he murders it.
1259
00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:33,440
Young guy.
1260
00:57:33,735 --> 00:57:35,434
He's got a mullet pretty much.
1261
00:57:35,894 --> 00:57:37,355
What's his name?
1262
00:57:37,655 --> 00:57:38,155
Jake?
1263
00:57:39,335 --> 00:57:39,835
Maybe.
1264
00:57:40,215 --> 00:57:41,414
You talking about an apple?
1265
00:57:41,414 --> 00:57:41,655
No.
1266
00:57:41,655 --> 00:57:42,614
He's not talking about
1267
00:57:42,614 --> 00:57:43,095
an apple.
1268
00:57:43,095 --> 00:57:44,954
Oh, you're talking about Neal Shipley.
1269
00:57:45,335 --> 00:57:45,494
Shipley.
1270
00:57:45,494 --> 00:57:45,974
Shipley.
1271
00:57:45,974 --> 00:57:47,675
The kid that played for Ohio State?
1272
00:57:47,735 --> 00:57:48,135
Yeah.
1273
00:57:48,135 --> 00:57:48,635
Yeah.
1274
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:51,380
I think it's Neal.
1275
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,719
I screwed this up one time.
1276
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:54,000
It's Shipley for sure.
1277
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,500
Yeah.
1278
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:55,119
Yeah.
1279
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:56,239
I mean, he's phenomenal.
1280
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:56,960
He won the U.S.
1281
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,280
Amateur.
1282
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,719
He can't take that away from him.
1283
00:57:58,719 --> 00:57:59,460
He's incredible.
1284
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:02,655
But yeah, oh, breakout players.
1285
00:58:02,735 --> 00:58:03,375
Shows himself.
1286
00:58:03,454 --> 00:58:04,175
Breakout players.
1287
00:58:04,175 --> 00:58:05,235
Breakout players.
1288
00:58:05,695 --> 00:58:06,255
You know what?
1289
00:58:06,255 --> 00:58:09,875
I think that I think that Clanton kid just
absolutely steps on the gas.
1290
00:58:12,255 --> 00:58:18,119
Well, I really like that, and I was between him
and Nick Dunlap, and I'm just gonna go Nick
1291
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,079
Dunlap on this one.
1292
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:24,679
I think Nick Dunlap after his season, he
settled in now and he's gonna get used to the
1293
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:25,420
golf courses.
1294
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:32,184
I think that is one of the most overlooked
aspects to a golfer coming on to the PGA Tour
1295
00:58:32,404 --> 00:58:36,085
is that these guys are seeing the golf course
usually for the first time.
1296
00:58:36,085 --> 00:58:40,244
And once they get to see it a couple times,
they get real comfortable out there, don't
1297
00:58:40,244 --> 00:58:40,984
they, Brent?
1298
00:58:41,090 --> 00:58:41,889
Oh, absolutely.
1299
00:58:41,889 --> 00:58:46,630
I mean, there were times where I mean, like,
for example, Torrey, I'll get his best example,
1300
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:51,909
went out the year before Monday qualified and
came back on the PGA Tour the next year.
1301
00:58:51,969 --> 00:58:55,329
And, I was leading through, I think it was,
like, 27 holes or something like that and
1302
00:58:55,329 --> 00:58:56,054
played well.
1303
00:58:56,214 --> 00:58:59,014
So, I mean, that's a perfect example.
1304
00:58:59,014 --> 00:59:04,375
And for Nick, I mean, the only question about
Dunlap is does he get too comfortable and does
1305
00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:05,194
he get lazy?
1306
00:59:05,734 --> 00:59:07,094
And, that can happen.
1307
00:59:07,094 --> 00:59:08,855
You get a lot of success pretty early.
1308
00:59:08,855 --> 00:59:14,280
So I wish him all the best, but I don't know
how I don't know how these kids handle it, man.
1309
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:20,440
I mean, that's that is so much so much thrust
on those guys so early, and hopefully, they
1310
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,559
don't have a dip like a Jordan Spieth or
something like that.
1311
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:25,799
But they keep rising, and we'll see.
1312
00:59:25,799 --> 00:59:27,019
I mean, he's incredible.
1313
00:59:27,695 --> 00:59:28,195
Absolutely.
1314
00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:29,454
Both are.
1315
00:59:29,454 --> 00:59:32,034
I mean, Luke Clanton too is just absolutely
phenomenal.
1316
00:59:32,414 --> 00:59:32,655
Yeah.
1317
00:59:32,655 --> 00:59:34,974
And I wholeheartedly agree with you.
1318
00:59:34,974 --> 00:59:40,529
Those were the two that were in my mind as the
two potential breakouts in 2025.
1319
00:59:40,589 --> 00:59:40,909
So I'm
1320
00:59:41,069 --> 00:59:44,289
I'd be on the lookout, I'd be on the lookout
for the guy, Bjornsson.
1321
00:59:44,589 --> 00:59:49,889
I think his last name is Michael, who's a PGA
Tour U number 1.
1322
00:59:50,109 --> 00:59:50,849
Is he lefty?
1323
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:51,789
No.
1324
00:59:51,789 --> 00:59:52,109
No.
1325
00:59:52,109 --> 00:59:52,514
No.
1326
00:59:53,394 --> 00:59:54,514
But I'm thinking of somebody else,
1327
00:59:54,514 --> 00:59:54,674
but I
1328
00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:55,714
know who you're talking about now.
1329
00:59:55,714 --> 00:59:55,875
Yeah.
1330
00:59:55,875 --> 00:59:58,135
I mean, so he was PGA Tour number 1.
1331
00:59:58,514 --> 01:00:00,295
He gets in every single event.
1332
01:00:00,674 --> 01:00:02,275
He's ahead of all the DP World.
1333
01:00:02,275 --> 01:00:03,234
He's ahead of all the the
1334
01:00:03,394 --> 01:00:03,714
Can I
1335
01:00:03,714 --> 01:00:04,514
stop you real quick?
1336
01:00:04,514 --> 01:00:07,679
I really hope he doesn't because I cannot say
his last name to save my life.
1337
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,159
Tor
1338
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:08,659
Bjornsson.
1339
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:10,500
Tor Bjornsson.
1340
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:11,619
Yep.
1341
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:12,819
That's it?
1342
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,380
Yep.
1343
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:14,159
You sure?
1344
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:14,559
Okay.
1345
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:15,219
100%.
1346
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:17,280
Tor Bjornsson.
1347
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,019
Tor yep.
1348
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:18,880
Oh, I
1349
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,474
can't look at if I see his last name written
down, there's no chance I'm gonna
1350
01:00:23,474 --> 01:00:23,795
do that.
1351
01:00:23,795 --> 01:00:25,974
Let me just bring it up so I so I don't talk.
1352
01:00:26,755 --> 01:00:29,154
Tor Tor George Tor Bjorn Johnson.
1353
01:00:29,234 --> 01:00:29,734
Johnson.
1354
01:00:30,755 --> 01:00:31,194
Bjornsson.
1355
01:00:31,194 --> 01:00:31,635
Bjornsson.
1356
01:00:31,635 --> 01:00:32,135
Bjornsson.
1357
01:00:32,674 --> 01:00:32,914
Bjornsson.
1358
01:00:32,914 --> 01:00:32,994
Bjornsson.
1359
01:00:33,074 --> 01:00:33,554
Michael.
1360
01:00:33,554 --> 01:00:34,275
Michael Bjornsson.
1361
01:00:34,275 --> 01:00:34,775
Bjornsson.
1362
01:00:35,570 --> 01:00:36,449
So yeah.
1363
01:00:36,449 --> 01:00:36,610
Yeah.
1364
01:00:36,610 --> 01:00:41,409
We'll try to just go pee when you're sitting on
an absolute tree and try to, like, work around
1365
01:00:41,409 --> 01:00:41,809
that
1366
01:00:41,809 --> 01:00:42,369
for a little later.
1367
01:00:42,369 --> 01:00:43,130
Tor Tor Bjornsson.
1368
01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:44,530
Happens to be every morning.
1369
01:00:44,530 --> 01:00:47,750
That should be your New Year resolution right
there.
1370
01:00:47,889 --> 01:00:48,869
Learn his name?
1371
01:00:49,184 --> 01:00:49,344
No.
1372
01:00:49,344 --> 01:00:49,664
No.
1373
01:00:49,664 --> 01:00:49,985
No.
1374
01:00:49,985 --> 01:00:53,204
Just have great BMs every day like Buttsy.
1375
01:00:53,585 --> 01:00:55,525
He's just a picture of health.
1376
01:00:56,704 --> 01:01:00,945
But but, anyways, that I'd be on the lookout
for that kid.
1377
01:01:00,945 --> 01:01:01,344
Okay.
1378
01:01:01,344 --> 01:01:01,844
Alright.
1379
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:06,369
Let's keep this moving with, who's your Masters
winner this year?
1380
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:07,010
Oh.
1381
01:01:07,630 --> 01:01:08,109
Shit.
1382
01:01:08,109 --> 01:01:09,570
Does Bryson get it done?
1383
01:01:10,989 --> 01:01:11,309
Fuck.
1384
01:01:11,309 --> 01:01:12,030
That'd be great.
1385
01:01:12,030 --> 01:01:12,909
That'd be crazy.
1386
01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:16,690
Sounds so stupid, but I think Brooks.
1387
01:01:17,835 --> 01:01:18,235
Really?
1388
01:01:18,235 --> 01:01:19,514
It's a solid pick.
1389
01:01:19,514 --> 01:01:20,735
Brent, what about you?
1390
01:01:21,034 --> 01:01:21,534
Shit.
1391
01:01:22,875 --> 01:01:23,355
You know what?
1392
01:01:23,355 --> 01:01:26,235
I think Scottie would be 3-peats.
1393
01:01:26,235 --> 01:01:29,114
He absolutely 3-peats.
1394
01:01:29,114 --> 01:01:29,614
Damn.
1395
01:01:29,755 --> 01:01:31,434
The place is built for him.
1396
01:01:31,434 --> 01:01:32,849
I mean, he's an artist.
1397
01:01:33,250 --> 01:01:35,090
I mean, think about all the great Masters
winners.
1398
01:01:35,090 --> 01:01:37,750
They just work their way around that place just
like that.
1399
01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:38,930
He won twice.
1400
01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:40,710
Why not win it 3 times?
1401
01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:41,510
Okay.
1402
01:01:41,890 --> 01:01:42,289
Alright.
1403
01:01:42,450 --> 01:01:45,349
I'm also going Scotty for the Masters.
1404
01:01:45,924 --> 01:01:47,684
Now we've got the PGA.
1405
01:01:47,684 --> 01:01:48,565
Actually, you know what?
1406
01:01:48,565 --> 01:01:50,824
I'm gonna switch mine for the Masters winner.
1407
01:01:51,125 --> 01:01:58,324
Since you went Brooks there, Buttsy, and Brent,
you went with Scottie Scheffler.
1408
01:01:58,324 --> 01:01:59,944
I'm gonna go Bryson for the Masters.
1409
01:02:01,739 --> 01:02:03,500
That would literally tear the world
1410
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:04,539
Yeah.
1411
01:02:04,539 --> 01:02:04,780
If you
1412
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:05,440
do that.
1413
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:07,500
That's why I'm throwing it out there.
1414
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:09,099
PGA Championship winner.
1415
01:02:09,099 --> 01:02:10,159
What do you think, Buttsy?
1416
01:02:15,804 --> 01:02:16,844
That might be one of the other.
1417
01:02:17,005 --> 01:02:19,085
I really think Scottie's gonna win 2 majors.
1418
01:02:19,085 --> 01:02:21,985
I don't think he's gonna win the Masters again,
but I think yeah.
1419
01:02:22,125 --> 01:02:22,625
PGA?
1420
01:02:22,844 --> 01:02:23,344
PGA.
1421
01:02:23,885 --> 01:02:24,385
K.
1422
01:02:24,765 --> 01:02:25,085
Look out
1423
01:02:25,085 --> 01:02:25,824
for Wyndham.
1424
01:02:26,684 --> 01:02:27,184
Wyndham?
1425
01:02:27,324 --> 01:02:27,824
Okay.
1426
01:02:28,130 --> 01:02:30,390
And I've got stole Max's boyfriend.
1427
01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:31,570
Hey.
1428
01:02:31,570 --> 01:02:32,070
Listen.
1429
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:35,030
PGA Championship, I'm going with Justin Thomas.
1430
01:02:35,329 --> 01:02:36,150
Woo hoo.
1431
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:37,730
Hot pick.
1432
01:02:37,730 --> 01:02:38,710
Where is it at?
1433
01:02:39,170 --> 01:02:39,910
No idea.
1434
01:02:40,944 --> 01:02:42,704
If it's at if it's at Quail
1435
01:02:42,864 --> 01:02:43,905
it shouldn't matter.
1436
01:02:43,905 --> 01:02:45,025
It's at Quail Hollow.
1437
01:02:45,025 --> 01:02:46,724
It's either Rory or Justin.
1438
01:02:46,784 --> 01:02:47,744
So there you go.
1439
01:02:47,824 --> 01:02:49,025
Think it is at Quail Hollow.
1440
01:02:49,025 --> 01:02:49,184
No.
1441
01:02:49,184 --> 01:02:50,804
Then Rory McIlroy wins again.
1442
01:02:51,264 --> 01:02:51,744
I know.
1443
01:02:51,744 --> 01:02:57,300
Of which, I said he's going to be the most
dominant player in 2025, and yet I have not
1444
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:58,280
picked him for,
1445
01:02:59,059 --> 01:03:00,519
any of the majors yet.
1446
01:03:01,139 --> 01:03:03,539
But there's two more to go.
1447
01:03:03,539 --> 01:03:04,420
So we got the U.S.
1448
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:05,320
Open winner.
1449
01:03:07,135 --> 01:03:07,375
Shit.
1450
01:03:07,375 --> 01:03:08,434
Where is that at?
1451
01:03:10,255 --> 01:03:10,574
U.S.
1452
01:03:10,574 --> 01:03:11,795
Open this year.
1453
01:03:12,014 --> 01:03:12,674
At Oakmont.
1454
01:03:12,974 --> 01:03:13,454
Is it?
1455
01:03:13,454 --> 01:03:13,954
Yep.
1456
01:03:15,454 --> 01:03:16,494
Bryson wins again.
1457
01:03:16,494 --> 01:03:18,174
Oh, that was where Dustin won.
1458
01:03:18,174 --> 01:03:19,234
If it's at Oakmont.
1459
01:03:20,139 --> 01:03:24,079
I think Dustin's done, unfortunately, but I
don't know.
1460
01:03:24,619 --> 01:03:26,559
You think Bryson wins that one?
1461
01:03:26,619 --> 01:03:27,119
Yeah.
1462
01:03:27,179 --> 01:03:27,420
Yeah.
1463
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,840
It's a it's a putter score, so it's it would be
so tough to to bet against Bryson.
1464
01:03:32,175 --> 01:03:37,855
Best putter in the world, especially with a
with a fucking with a, mop that he puts down
1465
01:03:37,855 --> 01:03:40,255
before every every, every putt.
1466
01:03:40,255 --> 01:03:41,775
So, Yeah.
1467
01:03:41,775 --> 01:03:45,360
I think, I think gold old BD gets it done.
1468
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,720
So I think U.S.
1469
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,300
Open this year, Rory gets his revenge.
1470
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,940
Rory McIlroy, winner.
1471
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,119
K?
1472
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:59,300
Now and Trot golfer just confirmed that Quail
Hollow is going to be the PGA Championship.
1473
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:01,059
So that's why I got myself
1474
01:04:01,224 --> 01:04:02,105
Mister Luis and Tony.
1475
01:04:02,105 --> 01:04:03,625
Rory wins that one.
1476
01:04:03,625 --> 01:04:04,984
Which here's the thing.
1477
01:04:04,984 --> 01:04:07,304
I would love to say that Rory wins that one.
1478
01:04:07,304 --> 01:04:09,304
Oh, but Wyndham Wyndham won Wells Fargo.
1479
01:04:09,304 --> 01:04:09,864
So you know what?
1480
01:04:09,864 --> 01:04:11,144
I'm sticking with my boy.
1481
01:04:11,144 --> 01:04:12,105
Wyndham Wyndham.
1482
01:04:12,105 --> 01:04:13,500
It's absolutely soft.
1483
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:19,579
I think between I think Buttsy actually, all
three of us have really good options there.
1484
01:04:19,579 --> 01:04:21,280
Now let's get to the Open Championship.
1485
01:04:21,340 --> 01:04:23,199
Where's the Open Championship this year?
1486
01:04:24,059 --> 01:04:26,079
Isn't it at it's not at Bethpage.
1487
01:04:26,704 --> 01:04:27,105
No.
1488
01:04:27,105 --> 01:04:27,344
No.
1489
01:04:27,344 --> 01:04:28,304
The Open Championship.
1490
01:04:28,304 --> 01:04:28,545
Oh,
1491
01:04:28,545 --> 01:04:29,664
Saint I think it's at St.
1492
01:04:29,664 --> 01:04:30,164
Andrews.
1493
01:04:31,025 --> 01:04:31,744
Is it back at
1494
01:04:31,744 --> 01:04:31,785
St.
1495
01:04:31,785 --> 01:04:31,824
Andrews?
1496
01:04:31,824 --> 01:04:32,704
It might be at St.
1497
01:04:32,704 --> 01:04:33,184
Andrews.
1498
01:04:33,184 --> 01:04:33,505
Try.
1499
01:04:33,505 --> 01:04:35,125
If you could look that up for us.
1500
01:04:36,304 --> 01:04:37,204
12 times.
1501
01:04:40,829 --> 01:04:43,889
I don't think he's got the chops to win 12
times, but
1502
01:04:44,989 --> 01:04:48,029
But the Open Championship, hang on.
1503
01:04:48,029 --> 01:04:48,989
Let's see if I can
1504
01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:50,529
I'm going Tiger.
1505
01:04:52,429 --> 01:04:53,204
Solid pick.
1506
01:04:53,525 --> 01:04:54,485
Love that for you.
1507
01:04:54,485 --> 01:04:55,285
He won't be playing.
1508
01:04:55,285 --> 01:04:57,465
If he's even close to healthy.
1509
01:04:57,844 --> 01:04:59,065
He's not even playing.
1510
01:04:59,605 --> 01:05:02,344
Oh, so Royal Portrush.
1511
01:05:03,204 --> 01:05:07,785
That would be tough to, again, tough to vote
against Rory there.
1512
01:05:08,300 --> 01:05:11,760
Rory might have one of those unbelievable
seasons.
1513
01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:14,079
And, I mean, he needs it because
1514
01:05:14,940 --> 01:05:16,000
Or Shane Lowry.
1515
01:05:16,539 --> 01:05:18,940
Oh, Tommy Fleetwood would finally get it done?
1516
01:05:18,940 --> 01:05:20,800
Does Tommy Fleetwood get it done?
1517
01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:24,885
But I am going with Rory McIlroy yet again.
1518
01:05:25,844 --> 01:05:28,804
In my opinion, Rory's gonna get revenge at the
U.S.
1519
01:05:28,804 --> 01:05:31,944
Open, and then he's finally gonna break through
at the Open Championship.
1520
01:05:34,059 --> 01:05:34,559
Okay.
1521
01:05:36,059 --> 01:05:37,039
What about the Players?
1522
01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:38,432
I I
1523
01:05:38,619 --> 01:05:40,079
And you can't forget Players?
1524
01:05:40,219 --> 01:05:43,279
Don't forget Tiger's event in the Bahamas.
1525
01:05:43,579 --> 01:05:44,059
Oh.
1526
01:05:44,059 --> 01:05:44,539
This may
1527
01:05:44,539 --> 01:05:46,000
be the Hero World Challenge.
1528
01:05:46,085 --> 01:05:46,964
You can't forget about that.
1529
01:05:47,045 --> 01:05:47,364
Can't wait
1530
01:05:47,364 --> 01:05:47,924
for that.
1531
01:05:47,924 --> 01:05:52,025
Why don't we start with the Hero World
Challenge as the fifth major?
1532
01:05:52,244 --> 01:05:53,944
Who do you have, Buttsy?
1533
01:05:54,244 --> 01:05:56,184
That's I'm gonna go JT there.
1534
01:05:57,045 --> 01:05:58,164
JT for the Hero?
1535
01:05:58,164 --> 01:05:59,784
What about you, Brent?
1536
01:05:59,844 --> 01:06:00,724
Why why JT?
1537
01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:01,704
Why why JT?
1538
01:06:02,059 --> 01:06:03,820
I just think he likes it down there.
1539
01:06:03,820 --> 01:06:06,059
I mean, he rises to the pressure.
1540
01:06:06,059 --> 01:06:09,119
It's one of the biggest events that those guys
play, like I've said before.
1541
01:06:09,819 --> 01:06:13,179
And, yeah, that would be a breakout event for
him.
1542
01:06:13,179 --> 01:06:15,099
God, if he wins that, he goes on.
1543
01:06:15,099 --> 01:06:19,545
He might win every major the year after that
because, yeah, the golf course that they're up
1544
01:06:19,545 --> 01:06:23,704
against and the teeth that that thing puts out
there, it's, yeah.
1545
01:06:23,704 --> 01:06:24,204
Special.
1546
01:06:24,425 --> 01:06:25,324
Special place.
1547
01:06:25,385 --> 01:06:26,344
What about you, Brent?
1548
01:06:26,344 --> 01:06:31,085
What we got for the 2025 Hero World Challenge
if Tiger gets it done.
1549
01:06:31,309 --> 01:06:31,630
Wow.
1550
01:06:31,630 --> 01:06:32,130
Tiger.
1551
01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:32,590
Awesome.
1552
01:06:32,590 --> 01:06:33,090
Okay.
1553
01:06:34,829 --> 01:06:39,230
Oh, Hideki could sneaky win either the Open or
the U.S.
1554
01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:39,730
Open.
1555
01:06:40,190 --> 01:06:41,090
Or the Masters.
1556
01:06:41,789 --> 01:06:42,289
Again.
1557
01:06:42,590 --> 01:06:42,989
Yeah.
1558
01:06:42,989 --> 01:06:43,489
Good.
1559
01:06:43,489 --> 01:06:46,289
Kind of bookend Scottie Scheffler.
1560
01:06:46,985 --> 01:06:51,405
So when there's a good handful of guys, I think
we'd probably be right about.
1561
01:06:52,105 --> 01:06:54,105
Well, at least they're relevant.
1562
01:06:54,105 --> 01:06:54,344
Right?
1563
01:06:54,344 --> 01:07:00,420
At least, you know, the guys that are actually
relevant in the conversation, which is good.
1564
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,420
Who wins the Ryder Cup, gentlemen?
1565
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:05,940
We do.
1566
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:07,059
Absolutely.
1567
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,340
Same.
1568
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,300
Absolutely.
1569
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:12,579
If we don't win by 6 points, it was a failure.
1570
01:07:12,905 --> 01:07:13,644
There we go.
1571
01:07:14,184 --> 01:07:21,464
So now let's do a really quick recap of the PNC
Championship where, guys, I gotta tell you,
1572
01:07:21,464 --> 01:07:30,869
after watching the PNC and seeing Tiger and
Charlie get robbed by Bernhard Langer and his
1573
01:07:30,869 --> 01:07:36,390
cheating putter, I got to tell you, I think
there's got to be a stop to this.
1574
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:38,170
There's got to be a stop to it.
1575
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:41,905
And I'm starting to get angry about it.
1576
01:07:42,204 --> 01:07:42,704
Yeah.
1577
01:07:43,164 --> 01:07:53,164
Because there are some photos from the PNC
where not only is it the forearm pinching up
1578
01:07:53,164 --> 01:07:58,239
against, and you see the crease in his shirt,
but his hand had a crease just like that
1579
01:07:58,239 --> 01:07:59,219
underneath it.
1580
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,420
And I'm just going
1581
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:01,280
Yeah.
1582
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,400
And he's not a big guy.
1583
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:02,559
Right?
1584
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,719
So it's like there's a crease.
1585
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:05,760
It's that way.
1586
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,079
Yeah.
1587
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:07,699
He's definitely right there.
1588
01:08:07,965 --> 01:08:12,704
This is insane that they're just ignoring this
because it's blatant.
1589
01:08:13,005 --> 01:08:14,525
Like, it is blatant cheating.
1590
01:08:14,525 --> 01:08:19,984
And then, of course, a lot of people had an
issue with him teeing it up in the bunker.
1591
01:08:20,125 --> 01:08:26,079
He found this little tiny, like, rise in the
bunker and put his ball because you could have
1592
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:26,719
a club length.
1593
01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:27,119
Right?
1594
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:28,079
Oh, it's scramble.
1595
01:08:28,079 --> 01:08:28,579
Yeah.
1596
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:32,179
Technically, that's not cheating, but a lot of
people thought it was.
1597
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,864
Now I've got no issue with that.
1598
01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:38,585
But the anchoring is absolutely against the
rules.
1599
01:08:38,585 --> 01:08:42,905
Did he get to get up, like, 70 yards in front
of everybody else too, even though he was
1600
01:08:42,905 --> 01:08:45,164
averaging, like, 285 off the box?
1601
01:08:45,225 --> 01:08:46,845
That was the other thing too.
1602
01:08:47,225 --> 01:08:50,204
Absolute insanity when it comes to that.
1603
01:08:50,539 --> 01:08:50,699
Yeah.
1604
01:08:50,699 --> 01:08:51,739
I mean you still have
1605
01:08:51,739 --> 01:08:53,039
the before you made it.
1606
01:08:53,260 --> 01:09:00,460
The amazing, the biggest storyline was
Charlie's hole-in-one, which apparently was his
1607
01:09:00,460 --> 01:09:00,860
first one.
1608
01:09:00,860 --> 01:09:02,140
So that was pretty cool.
1609
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:05,500
Although, oh, there you could tell how much of
a nerd Tiger is.
1610
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:07,234
It's like, that's the rules.
1611
01:09:07,234 --> 01:09:10,274
You know, you gotta pay buy everybody a drink.
1612
01:09:10,274 --> 01:09:11,154
That's the rule.
1613
01:09:11,154 --> 01:09:15,335
I'm like, no father would ever say that like
that to their son ever.
1614
01:09:15,474 --> 01:09:16,034
And he'd be like
1615
01:09:16,114 --> 01:09:20,319
You know, he probably regretted that
immediately because John Daly, I heard, just
1616
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:24,039
showed up immediately thereafter demanding for
his beverages.
1617
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:25,279
Big resort too.
1618
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:26,960
I bet you that's exactly what I
1619
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:28,500
The Ritz-Carlton in Orlando.
1620
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,539
Beautiful place.
1621
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,300
Oh, we know where that is, Buttsy?
1622
01:09:31,555 --> 01:09:31,875
Oh,
1623
01:09:31,875 --> 01:09:32,375
yeah.
1624
01:09:33,555 --> 01:09:39,715
Buttsy Brian would, throws out there that
another great question Buttsy can ask.
1625
01:09:39,715 --> 01:09:41,494
Tell our viewers why you suck.
1626
01:09:43,875 --> 01:09:44,914
That'd be pretty good.
1627
01:09:44,914 --> 01:09:46,020
I'd like to see it.
1628
01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:47,960
Oh, shit.
1629
01:09:48,579 --> 01:09:49,960
Get him back to the PNC.
1630
01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:52,039
I don't know.
1631
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:55,720
Like, how is this going to stop?
1632
01:09:56,020 --> 01:10:00,005
I think we just got to keep talking about it
with Bernhard Langer.
1633
01:10:00,064 --> 01:10:00,564
Bernhard
1634
01:10:00,944 --> 01:10:01,024
Langer.
1635
01:10:01,304 --> 01:10:01,585
Stop.
1636
01:10:01,585 --> 01:10:02,704
It's not gonna stop.
1637
01:10:02,704 --> 01:10:03,264
You know?
1638
01:10:03,264 --> 01:10:04,225
I feel like it's got to.
1639
01:10:04,225 --> 01:10:05,125
It's cheating.
1640
01:10:06,465 --> 01:10:12,484
But even Tiger, like, in regards to their play,
he almost seemed sheepish in his commentary.
1641
01:10:12,704 --> 01:10:15,000
Like, he was being a little facetious.
1642
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,560
So I don't know.
1643
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,359
What can you say, man?
1644
01:10:16,359 --> 01:10:17,560
The guy made everything.
1645
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,000
Like, he made everything out there.
1646
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,039
The way he was rolling it.
1647
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:20,279
Wow.
1648
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:25,319
Like, almost like he's, like, I don't wanna say
he was hinting at it, but, like, alright, dude.
1649
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:26,939
You're cheating.
1650
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:28,439
Yeah.
1651
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,274
I've just who makes that call?
1652
01:10:32,055 --> 01:10:33,975
Is it the official at the golf tournament?
1653
01:10:33,975 --> 01:10:35,435
Does he have to call it on himself?
1654
01:10:36,055 --> 01:10:39,994
Like, it's bad, man, and it's bad for the game.
1655
01:10:40,454 --> 01:10:40,954
Yeah.
1656
01:10:41,734 --> 01:10:43,359
I don't think anybody's gonna call him on it.
1657
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:44,880
If they were, they would've done it already.
1658
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,079
They're not gonna, yeah.
1659
01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:48,420
Because then they gotta go back and strip
everything.
1660
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,439
I really hope that it stops.
1661
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,679
I'm just gonna be like, I think he's retiring
soon.
1662
01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:55,380
Like, it's almost over.
1663
01:10:56,015 --> 01:10:57,234
We can't go back now.
1664
01:10:57,935 --> 01:10:59,695
I bet you that's what they probably thought.
1665
01:10:59,695 --> 01:11:02,895
They're like, oh, he's on the Champions Tour,
and then, oh, shit.
1666
01:11:02,895 --> 01:11:04,195
He's, like, winning everything.
1667
01:11:04,335 --> 01:11:07,074
And then all of a sudden, it's like, well, he's
retiring soon.
1668
01:11:07,215 --> 01:11:08,895
And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, shit.
1669
01:11:08,895 --> 01:11:15,640
He just beat Tiger on a national stage, and
it's clear that the guy is cheating.
1670
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:16,600
Yeah.
1671
01:11:16,899 --> 01:11:17,399
Yeah.
1672
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:20,600
I mean, that's what's so ridiculous.
1673
01:11:20,739 --> 01:11:21,060
Right?
1674
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:29,024
Is that if you look at any other time, right,
these guys have been gone after for—I mean,
1675
01:11:29,024 --> 01:11:35,505
Vijay had to sue the Tour for defamation
because they went after him for deer antler
1676
01:11:35,505 --> 01:11:41,449
spray, and you had multiple situations where
the PGA Tour has just dismissed the fact that
1677
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:46,310
players popped on their drug tests, and they
said they were injured and would only be out
1678
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:51,045
for this amount of time or the fact that it
just conveniently drug testing happened to
1679
01:11:51,045 --> 01:11:53,204
start right after Tiger got done.
1680
01:11:53,204 --> 01:11:57,604
You know, all those different things that the
PGA Tour just, you know, sidesteps this and
1681
01:11:57,604 --> 01:12:00,664
sidesteps that, and, he's anchoring.
1682
01:12:01,364 --> 01:12:02,885
He's making money.
1683
01:12:02,885 --> 01:12:03,364
So I
1684
01:12:03,364 --> 01:12:05,039
think we just gotta get over it.
1685
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:06,180
It ain't going nowhere.
1686
01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:06,640
No.
1687
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:06,960
I know.
1688
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,880
And he's not retiring, by the way.
1689
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:09,699
Not retiring.
1690
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,720
Let him let
1691
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,039
him do this.
1692
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:14,180
Let's just I it's just a spit in the face
1693
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:15,199
as a golf fan.
1694
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:16,020
You know what?
1695
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Matt, as a fellow professional, I totally agree
with you.
1696
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:21,175
I I
1697
01:12:21,175 --> 01:12:23,015
guess somebody else is gonna have to do it.
1698
01:12:23,015 --> 01:12:24,074
That's when it'll stop.
1699
01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:29,255
Well, I think Trot Golf needs to get a class
action suit together and needs to
1700
01:12:29,255 --> 01:12:30,155
sue action.
1701
01:12:30,534 --> 01:12:34,155
Bernhard Langer and the Tour for false
advertisement.
1702
01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:40,789
And, anything else you can stick in there and
just go ahead and take them for all they got.
1703
01:12:41,329 --> 01:12:48,954
My thing is, though, even back when the rule
didn't exist, it wasn't like he went to
1704
01:12:48,954 --> 01:12:52,795
anchoring and then he just started like,
whoever did that was the best putter in the
1705
01:12:52,795 --> 01:12:53,914
world and beat everybody.
1706
01:12:53,914 --> 01:12:54,734
Like no.
1707
01:12:54,875 --> 01:12:58,954
And it obviously works for him, but, yeah.
1708
01:12:58,954 --> 01:12:59,594
It yeah.
1709
01:12:59,594 --> 01:13:02,255
I don't think you can say that's the only
reason he's winning.
1710
01:13:03,250 --> 01:13:03,489
No.
1711
01:13:03,489 --> 01:13:04,929
But it is because that's the
1712
01:13:04,929 --> 01:13:05,670
only he has the yips.
1713
01:13:05,969 --> 01:13:07,649
He legit has the yips.
1714
01:13:07,649 --> 01:13:09,750
Like, he cannot putt with a normal putter.
1715
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:10,630
Yeah.
1716
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:13,250
So I guess that that's the question, right?
1717
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:20,934
So if the whole point was to make somebody make
an actual, you know, in the definition of
1718
01:13:20,934 --> 01:13:27,814
making a putting stroke, and he's not doing
that, then regardless of what we see on camera
1719
01:13:27,814 --> 01:13:33,909
or what we see in photos or whatever, the
simple fact of the matter is he can't make an
1720
01:13:33,909 --> 01:13:35,350
actual playing stroke.
1721
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:43,109
So do you act like the Reggie Bush thing and go
back and take, you know, his titles away and
1722
01:13:43,109 --> 01:13:48,074
say, well, because you were cheating the entire
time, then you gotta go back.
1723
01:13:48,074 --> 01:13:48,475
And
1724
01:13:48,715 --> 01:13:49,454
I would.
1725
01:13:49,595 --> 01:13:51,114
I would say fuck it at this point.
1726
01:13:51,114 --> 01:13:54,095
It's like, man, let's go back and take away
everything.
1727
01:13:54,635 --> 01:13:55,114
Fuck that.
1728
01:13:55,114 --> 01:14:01,000
Anytime that he used that long putter and
there's visual proof that he was anchoring in
1729
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,960
some fashion, then, yeah, let's go back.
1730
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,920
Let's throw the asterisk.
1731
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,280
They do it in every other sport.
1732
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,659
I mean, shit, in baseball, Barry Bonds isn't
even in the Hall of Fame yet.
1733
01:14:09,864 --> 01:14:14,024
So it's like, yeah, if everybody else is gonna
hold everybody else to all these standards, why
1734
01:14:14,024 --> 01:14:15,085
the hell is golf?
1735
01:14:15,225 --> 01:14:19,145
We're supposed to be like that's what is so
fake about the game, right?
1736
01:14:19,145 --> 01:14:21,385
Is that this is supposed to be a gentleman's
game.
1737
01:14:21,385 --> 01:14:23,244
This is supposed to be this and that.
1738
01:14:23,329 --> 01:14:28,369
And yet none of the guys can be themselves,
talk trash and, like, be themselves out there
1739
01:14:28,369 --> 01:14:31,350
on the golf course because they're worried
about corporate sponsors.
1740
01:14:31,489 --> 01:14:36,454
And then you got something like this where a
rules infraction by somebody who's winning and
1741
01:14:36,454 --> 01:14:39,994
nobody has the balls to sit there and go, hey,
Bernhard, you're cheating.
1742
01:14:40,774 --> 01:14:47,494
Like, we're gonna literally take away every win
that you've ever had because you're cheating
1743
01:14:47,494 --> 01:14:48,474
and it's blatant.
1744
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:49,960
Yeah.
1745
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:55,479
I mean, all of the outrage is not selective by
any means.
1746
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,720
And I think anybody that's watched the show
over the last however many years you've been
1747
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:06,815
doing this should understand that we're not
pissed off right now because of this one thing.
1748
01:15:06,815 --> 01:15:14,335
It's a continual pattern of just the tour
showing that, and I texted you guys this
1749
01:15:14,655 --> 01:15:20,130
earlier last week, but the bottom line is that
they don't give a shit.
1750
01:15:20,289 --> 01:15:21,489
They don't care.
1751
01:15:21,489 --> 01:15:25,729
And they're gonna make the decisions that they
feel are best for them and their sponsors and
1752
01:15:25,729 --> 01:15:28,149
their people and fuck the common man.
1753
01:15:28,529 --> 01:15:34,550
And that's where I want there to be like, 2025,
I want it to be the year of authenticity,
1754
01:15:35,255 --> 01:15:38,694
especially with pro golf, that it needs to
become real
1755
01:15:38,694 --> 01:15:38,854
or
1756
01:15:38,854 --> 01:15:40,554
else it's going to go away.
1757
01:15:41,014 --> 01:15:45,354
Like, the viewership is going to continue to
decrease, in my opinion.
1758
01:15:45,654 --> 01:15:47,175
I don't think we're going up.
1759
01:15:47,175 --> 01:15:52,100
Oh, it's not an it's oh, it's you you can say
it as a fact, and you can and you can have
1760
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:53,780
multiple data points to back it up.
1761
01:15:54,020 --> 01:16:01,220
You know, to say that to say that somehow this
year, the 2024 and 2023 were somehow kind of an
1762
01:16:01,220 --> 01:16:03,800
outlier, is a ridiculous thing.
1763
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,320
It's not an outlier.
1764
01:16:05,859 --> 01:16:09,614
It's it's part of a trend that has been
happening for quite some time.
1765
01:16:09,835 --> 01:16:15,114
And the reason why everybody's watching
15-second golfers versus the PGA Tour or even
1766
01:16:15,114 --> 01:16:22,340
in this case, the LIV Tour, is because at the
end of the day, we're all starting to pick up
1767
01:16:22,340 --> 01:16:27,860
on the fact that the corporate entities that
have run all of all of our game, by the way,
1768
01:16:27,860 --> 01:16:32,520
and this includes the R&A, the USGA, and all
these other bodies in golf, the bureaucracy,
1769
01:16:33,795 --> 01:16:36,055
are absolutely full of shit.
1770
01:16:36,275 --> 01:16:41,494
And, by the way, they act completely contrary
to any other sport.
1771
01:16:41,635 --> 01:16:48,775
The NBA, the NFL, the MLB, they don't act like
that, and yet the top players want to be paid
1772
01:16:49,189 --> 01:16:50,329
like those sports.
1773
01:16:50,789 --> 01:16:53,050
But, you know, just doesn't work that way.
1774
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:53,829
There you go.
1775
01:16:53,829 --> 01:16:54,970
Love you too, buddy.
1776
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:56,649
You've got a fan in Trop.
1777
01:16:56,789 --> 01:17:01,670
Now with that said, let's head into the preview
of the Sentry that's happening this week.
1778
01:17:01,670 --> 01:17:04,864
It's gonna start on January 2, which is
Thursday.
1779
01:17:05,885 --> 01:17:10,465
This is at the beautiful Plantation Course at
Kapalua in Maui, Hawaii.
1780
01:17:10,684 --> 01:17:11,184
Yep.
1781
01:17:11,404 --> 01:17:13,585
Designers are Crenshaw and Coore.
1782
01:17:14,444 --> 01:17:15,744
Established in 1991.
1783
01:17:17,729 --> 01:17:21,429
Par 73, 7,596 yards.
1784
01:17:21,569 --> 01:17:26,710
Chris Kirk won it last year with a score of 21
under par.
1785
01:17:27,729 --> 01:17:32,229
This, this one used to be the Sentry Tournament
of Champions.
1786
01:17:33,385 --> 01:17:34,585
Now they've changed that.
1787
01:17:34,585 --> 01:17:36,764
So no longer do you have to win.
1788
01:17:36,904 --> 01:17:37,625
You have to be.
1789
01:17:37,625 --> 01:17:40,505
There's certain criteria that goes into it as
well.
1790
01:17:40,505 --> 01:17:44,764
But, you got a much larger field now with this
very first event.
1791
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:50,920
I'm gonna go over the betting odds real quick
with Xander Schauffele being plus 800, Collin
1792
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:57,899
Morikawa plus 1,000, Justin Thomas plus 1,200,
Ludvig Åberg at plus 1,400, Patrick Cantlay
1793
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,140
plus 1,600.
1794
01:18:01,375 --> 01:18:04,114
Hovland is out with a toe injury.
1795
01:18:04,655 --> 01:18:06,354
Sungjae Im, plus 2,000.
1796
01:18:06,574 --> 01:18:08,435
Hideki Matsuyama, plus 2,100.
1797
01:18:08,895 --> 01:18:10,675
Tony Finau, plus 2,500.
1798
01:18:11,375 --> 01:18:17,550
And then Scottie Scheffler is also out as he
carved up his hand with some glass apparently,
1799
01:18:18,650 --> 01:18:19,630
over the holidays.
1800
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:21,230
Ouch.
1801
01:18:21,850 --> 01:18:25,470
Viktor Hovland stubbed his toe, by the way, on
a bed frame.
1802
01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:27,949
Haven't we all done that?
1803
01:18:28,175 --> 01:18:30,515
His pinky toe broke to the side.
1804
01:18:30,895 --> 01:18:32,034
Oh, shit.
1805
01:18:32,095 --> 01:18:33,475
We've all done that.
1806
01:18:34,414 --> 01:18:35,395
What's that, Buttsy?
1807
01:18:35,454 --> 01:18:36,914
We have a photo of that.
1808
01:18:36,975 --> 01:18:37,695
I want a photo
1809
01:18:37,695 --> 01:18:37,775
of that.
1810
01:18:37,775 --> 01:18:40,114
He posted the X-ray on social media.
1811
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:40,890
Okay.
1812
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:41,750
Yeah.
1813
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:43,930
That little pinky toe is, like, off to the
side.
1814
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:44,890
Yeah.
1815
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:46,390
Yeah.
1816
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:47,109
No good.
1817
01:18:47,109 --> 01:18:47,930
No good.
1818
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:48,970
So
1819
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:50,710
yeah.
1820
01:18:50,710 --> 01:18:56,445
They redid the greens at Kapalua a couple of
years ago.
1821
01:18:56,445 --> 01:18:58,545
Before that, it was kinda just a dart show.
1822
01:18:59,324 --> 01:19:02,685
But it's, the reason why it's so long is
because there's a lot of rolling hills, and I
1823
01:19:02,685 --> 01:19:10,170
think the last two or three holes are all
straight downhill, including the 18th par 5,
1824
01:19:10,170 --> 01:19:16,569
which is famous for Bubba Watson hitting two
drivers with a total amount of 300 yards in
1825
01:19:16,569 --> 01:19:17,309
both directions.
1826
01:19:18,170 --> 01:19:19,689
So, yeah.
1827
01:19:19,689 --> 01:19:21,130
It's a great place.
1828
01:19:21,529 --> 01:19:22,725
The weather looks great.
1829
01:19:22,885 --> 01:19:26,085
Wind is gonna be a little bit windy the first
couple of days, and then it calms down.
1830
01:19:26,085 --> 01:19:28,425
Those guys are gonna absolutely knife that
place apart.
1831
01:19:28,564 --> 01:19:31,945
Isn't that where JT had, like, his breakout
season too?
1832
01:19:32,085 --> 01:19:32,244
Yeah.
1833
01:19:32,244 --> 01:19:36,505
He absolutely lost all of his sponsors with the
hot mic during 2020.
1834
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:37,770
2021.
1835
01:19:37,909 --> 01:19:38,710
Excuse me.
1836
01:19:38,710 --> 01:19:41,750
Way back when he first came out and, like, I
think he won twice real quick.
1837
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:42,710
Did he win there?
1838
01:19:42,710 --> 01:19:43,530
He won 2017.
1839
01:19:43,829 --> 01:19:44,329
Yep.
1840
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:44,970
Okay.
1841
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:45,590
Yeah.
1842
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:46,729
So I got him.
1843
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:48,250
Beautiful.
1844
01:19:48,710 --> 01:19:49,210
Yep.
1845
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:50,570
Brent, who's your pick?
1846
01:19:51,315 --> 01:19:53,655
I think Ludvig Aberg gets it done.
1847
01:19:53,715 --> 01:19:54,215
Yeah.
1848
01:19:54,835 --> 01:19:57,635
God, me and you have been on the same
wavelength tonight.
1849
01:19:57,875 --> 01:19:58,534
The Berg.
1850
01:19:58,994 --> 01:19:59,315
Yeah.
1851
01:19:59,315 --> 01:20:01,235
I feel like I gotta pick somebody else.
1852
01:20:01,235 --> 01:20:01,795
That's your pick.
1853
01:20:01,795 --> 01:20:03,015
So fucking good.
1854
01:20:03,315 --> 01:20:04,534
I am gonna go.
1855
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:06,979
Oh, man.
1856
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:08,899
I don't like this.
1857
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:11,359
You took my pick.
1858
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:12,739
Gotta be somebody long.
1859
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:13,840
You know?
1860
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,340
Good.
1861
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:16,399
You know, it'd be tough to beat out there.
1862
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:17,279
He's playing at home.
1863
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,139
Coming off of a knee injury.
1864
01:20:21,675 --> 01:20:27,034
That's what he blamed the whole, him pulling
out of some tournaments for.
1865
01:20:27,034 --> 01:20:32,175
So, you know, we're just talking about this
gentleman, Hideki Matsuyama.
1866
01:20:32,954 --> 01:20:34,780
Let's see if he can get the
1867
01:20:34,939 --> 01:20:35,420
He plays well
1868
01:20:35,420 --> 01:20:35,500
there.
1869
01:20:35,579 --> 01:20:36,079
Started.
1870
01:20:36,220 --> 01:20:37,680
He plays really well there.
1871
01:20:38,140 --> 01:20:39,500
Troy asked an interesting question.
1872
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:42,239
I'd love to see you guys' your takes on that.
1873
01:20:42,460 --> 01:20:44,060
If you wanna bring that up, Matty.
1874
01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:44,539
What's that?
1875
01:20:44,539 --> 01:20:45,039
Where?
1876
01:20:47,405 --> 01:20:48,305
On this one?
1877
01:20:48,364 --> 01:20:48,864
Yeah.
1878
01:20:49,885 --> 01:20:50,204
That's all.
1879
01:20:50,204 --> 01:20:50,658
There's no
1880
01:20:50,925 --> 01:20:53,025
take on how to play mud balls.
1881
01:20:53,405 --> 01:20:54,465
What do you guys think?
1882
01:20:55,005 --> 01:21:01,079
I think it depends on—I mean, Tiger addressed
this way back—what side of the ball the mud's
1883
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:01,399
on.
1884
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:01,880
Right?
1885
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,199
Correct.
1886
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:03,899
It flies to the opposite side.
1887
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:04,199
Yeah.
1888
01:21:04,199 --> 01:21:07,479
The weight's gonna and then if the mud comes
off, you gotta worry about that.
1889
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,300
But the spin is obviously gonna be reduced.
1890
01:21:11,974 --> 01:21:12,135
Yeah.
1891
01:21:12,135 --> 01:21:14,694
If you're hitting a wedge, probably not playing
the number.
1892
01:21:14,694 --> 01:21:17,194
Like, you're probably trying to run something
in, I would imagine.
1893
01:21:18,375 --> 01:21:21,414
If I had a mud ball with a wedge, I'd probably
play in front of the green.
1894
01:21:21,414 --> 01:21:22,234
I don't know.
1895
01:21:22,375 --> 01:21:23,274
What do you think?
1896
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:25,670
Yeah, Matt.
1897
01:21:26,050 --> 01:21:27,569
I actually totally agree.
1898
01:21:27,569 --> 01:21:29,430
I mean, it's mud left, ball right.
1899
01:21:29,569 --> 01:21:30,609
Mud right, ball left.
1900
01:21:31,489 --> 01:21:35,029
But it also depends on the mud consistency, how
much is on it.
1901
01:21:35,489 --> 01:21:41,675
I always found that if it's that red, that
kinda red clayish or any sort of clay, just
1902
01:21:41,675 --> 01:21:45,694
good luck, and you've got absolutely no idea
where that ball is going.
1903
01:21:45,994 --> 01:21:51,034
But if it's that real soft stuff that you see,
you know, kinda in the Southeast, like in some
1904
01:21:51,034 --> 01:21:57,789
of the Florida courses that you see, it'll come
off, but it will shoot the golf ball in those
1905
01:21:57,789 --> 01:21:58,850
directions generally.
1906
01:21:58,909 --> 01:22:04,909
If it's on the front, you're gonna see a dive,
and then it's an absolute crapshoot if it's
1907
01:22:04,909 --> 01:22:06,284
between the ball and the face.
1908
01:22:06,445 --> 01:22:06,765
Yeah.
1909
01:22:06,765 --> 01:22:07,265
Yep.
1910
01:22:08,125 --> 01:22:08,625
100.
1911
01:22:09,805 --> 01:22:12,784
The guy says Decky's going to LIV.
1912
01:22:13,725 --> 01:22:20,659
PGC, which I believe is referring to Pro Golf
Critic on Twitter, who's an absolute hack, and
1913
01:22:20,659 --> 01:22:23,859
his buddies said, it's so stir stick.
1914
01:22:23,859 --> 01:22:28,439
So, yeah, these guys are just absolute morons.
1915
01:22:31,859 --> 01:22:34,039
That's like the pot calling the kettle black.
1916
01:22:37,155 --> 01:22:37,655
Wait.
1917
01:22:37,715 --> 01:22:40,534
We're only a little bit moronic, not absolute
morons.
1918
01:22:42,195 --> 01:22:42,994
I gotta tell you.
1919
01:22:42,994 --> 01:22:45,095
I think I don't know.
1920
01:22:45,155 --> 01:22:46,675
We're doing great.
1921
01:22:46,675 --> 01:22:50,340
Maybe I'm off, but I feel like we actually know
what the hell we're talking about.
1922
01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:54,340
Well, we do, but it's just one of those things
where it's funny because, you know, we talk
1923
01:22:54,340 --> 01:22:57,639
about YouTube golf, and I am so disconnected.
1924
01:22:57,699 --> 01:23:04,704
But the amazing part about that is there are so
many so-called podcasts that talk the way they
1925
01:23:04,704 --> 01:23:09,925
talk, and yet it's either you're so far
ridiculous that you're trying to get clicks or
1926
01:23:10,145 --> 01:23:11,185
you fall in line.
1927
01:23:11,185 --> 01:23:11,744
Well, that's his
1928
01:23:12,064 --> 01:23:12,864
and this guy
1929
01:23:12,864 --> 01:23:16,404
is one of those because he's got a Twitter
handle.
1930
01:23:16,545 --> 01:23:16,944
Mhmm.
1931
01:23:16,944 --> 01:23:21,420
And he literally just loves himself, LIV Golf,
and that's it.
1932
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,039
And he claims to, like,
1933
01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:23,819
I don't know.
1934
01:23:23,819 --> 01:23:25,899
And the guy's just a freaking idiot to me.
1935
01:23:25,899 --> 01:23:26,300
Get him on
1936
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:26,699
the pod
1937
01:23:26,699 --> 01:23:29,599
with dodge on it just to be that way on part
like.
1938
01:23:29,739 --> 01:23:30,239
Yeah.
1939
01:23:30,380 --> 01:23:33,279
It's like the baiting of clickbait.
1940
01:23:33,664 --> 01:23:38,885
And it's always that type of style with his
account, and it's just obnoxious.
1941
01:23:39,425 --> 01:23:39,744
Yeah.
1942
01:23:39,744 --> 01:23:40,064
Yeah.
1943
01:23:40,064 --> 01:23:45,585
So it's like it's like if, like, was actually
serious about what he was saying, like, it'd be
1944
01:23:45,585 --> 01:23:46,324
like that.
1945
01:23:46,944 --> 01:23:47,344
Yes.
1946
01:23:47,344 --> 01:23:47,824
Yeah.
1947
01:23:47,824 --> 01:23:48,324
Exactly.
1948
01:23:48,859 --> 01:23:51,840
It's like the Hero World Challenge being the
5th major.
1949
01:23:51,899 --> 01:23:53,020
But if he was serious
1950
01:23:53,340 --> 01:23:54,699
I'm actually dead serious.
1951
01:23:54,699 --> 01:23:54,859
Yeah.
1952
01:23:54,859 --> 01:23:56,939
He's dead serious with that.
1953
01:23:56,939 --> 01:24:02,559
Now let's go to pro golf in 2025.
1954
01:24:04,314 --> 01:24:06,414
What are you most looking forward to?
1955
01:24:12,635 --> 01:24:13,994
I don't wanna say this.
1956
01:24:14,954 --> 01:24:15,854
The Nothing?
1957
01:24:16,234 --> 01:24:16,734
Nothing.
1958
01:24:16,795 --> 01:24:19,614
Well, not necessarily the merger.
1959
01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:23,270
I mean, that would be kinda neat from a golf
fan's perspective.
1960
01:24:23,890 --> 01:24:27,189
But I do like the fact that we're gonna have
other products.
1961
01:24:27,489 --> 01:24:27,890
Mhmm.
1962
01:24:28,050 --> 01:24:28,130
You
1963
01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:32,289
know, they used to do, like, the little Battle
at Bighorn under the lights and shit like that.
1964
01:24:32,289 --> 01:24:36,875
And there were all these little one-off,
one-time deals where they do an alternative
1965
01:24:37,015 --> 01:24:39,034
product and put it out there for a night.
1966
01:24:39,654 --> 01:24:42,295
The Match, you know, tried and failed there, I
think.
1967
01:24:42,295 --> 01:24:45,034
But is it the TGC?
1968
01:24:45,094 --> 01:24:46,074
Is that what it's called?
1969
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:47,139
The TGL.
1970
01:24:47,599 --> 01:24:48,099
TGL?
1971
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:48,560
Sorry.
1972
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:49,119
I don't You
1973
01:24:49,119 --> 01:24:50,819
also got the Ryder Cup next year.
1974
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:52,159
I like that.
1975
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,979
I like that there's gonna be more golf to
watch.
1976
01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:56,880
Yeah.
1977
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:57,920
That's it for me, man.
1978
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,545
I just think you're gonna have some more golf
to watch for both of you.
1979
01:25:01,425 --> 01:25:01,824
To more of
1980
01:25:01,824 --> 01:25:03,664
these matches happening on YouTube.
1981
01:25:03,664 --> 01:25:10,625
Like, I don't necessarily subscribe to that and
wanna watch it, but I can understand why 90% of
1982
01:25:10,625 --> 01:25:12,965
the golfing public likes that shit.
1983
01:25:13,220 --> 01:25:14,680
So more of that happening.
1984
01:25:14,739 --> 01:25:15,560
I don't know.
1985
01:25:15,699 --> 01:25:20,520
I'm out on whether it's good for the game, but
it's cool that more people are watching it.
1986
01:25:20,659 --> 01:25:20,979
Love that.
1987
01:25:20,979 --> 01:25:22,360
Brent, what about you, Beau?
1988
01:25:24,020 --> 01:25:29,675
The thing I'm looking forward to most, from
professional golf is, Monday qualifying for a
1989
01:25:29,675 --> 01:25:31,854
bunch of tournaments and making a shitload of
money.
1990
01:25:32,715 --> 01:25:34,494
That's the thing I'm looking forward to.
1991
01:25:35,114 --> 01:25:35,935
Well done.
1992
01:25:36,314 --> 01:25:37,055
Love that.
1993
01:25:37,515 --> 01:25:39,689
For me, it's the Ryder Cup.
1994
01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:40,569
Yeah.
1995
01:25:40,569 --> 01:25:40,649
And
1996
01:25:40,649 --> 01:25:41,529
I'm kinda with you too
1997
01:25:41,609 --> 01:25:42,250
As a fan
1998
01:25:42,409 --> 01:25:42,989
the merger.
1999
01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:43,210
Yeah.
2000
01:25:43,210 --> 01:25:43,770
I agree with that.
2001
01:25:43,770 --> 01:25:47,229
I just don't wanna hear about LIV Golf PGA Tour
anymore.
2002
01:25:47,369 --> 01:25:47,529
No.
2003
01:25:47,529 --> 01:25:50,489
I don't wanna be stuck in the middle of the
whole damn thing.
2004
01:25:50,489 --> 01:25:51,689
Just figure it out, man.
2005
01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:57,625
Have this year, if I remember correctly, and I
know I joined you guys kind of midway through
2006
01:25:57,625 --> 01:26:05,305
the deal, but was there really anything going
on aside from a rumor here or there that ended
2007
01:26:05,305 --> 01:26:07,305
up going away in 2.5 seconds?
2008
01:26:07,305 --> 01:26:09,149
And then the fact that
2009
01:26:09,390 --> 01:26:10,029
all it's been.
2010
01:26:10,029 --> 01:26:11,149
That's why Matt's sick of it.
2011
01:26:11,149 --> 01:26:12,750
It's just been one, you know,
2012
01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:13,737
over the last couple of years.
2013
01:26:13,789 --> 01:26:14,750
Deal has been done.
2014
01:26:14,750 --> 01:26:16,029
The deal has been done.
2015
01:26:16,029 --> 01:26:16,750
Like, yeah.
2016
01:26:16,750 --> 01:26:18,689
And all they waited for was the election.
2017
01:26:18,989 --> 01:26:25,534
It's just been smoke screens throughout that
are trying to deter away from people realizing
2018
01:26:25,534 --> 01:26:32,414
what the heck is actually really going on,
which is just trying to create some type of
2019
01:26:32,414 --> 01:26:34,414
excuse as to why it hasn't gone through yet.
2020
01:26:34,414 --> 01:26:36,914
I'm just going to be excited when that whole
thing's done.
2021
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,159
Ryder Cup, though, I always get pumped for the
Ryder Cup, and I want the U.S.
2022
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:44,979
to just kick their ass this year at Bethpage.
2023
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:46,640
I hope the fans show up.
2024
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,260
I hope the fans show up.
2025
01:26:48,399 --> 01:26:49,975
You know, the north of town.
2026
01:26:50,095 --> 01:26:52,835
Is it's gonna be a million freaking dollars to
go out there.
2027
01:26:53,055 --> 01:26:54,755
Did you see the price of these tickets?
2028
01:26:54,975 --> 01:26:55,795
Oh, God.
2029
01:26:56,015 --> 01:27:00,335
Which granted, it's gonna be a bunch of rich
New Yorkers is what it's going to be that are
2030
01:27:00,335 --> 01:27:01,055
gonna be out there.
2031
01:27:01,055 --> 01:27:02,914
They're, like, $1,500 a ticket.
2032
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:04,760
Oh, wow.
2033
01:27:05,060 --> 01:27:06,920
At a public golf course, by the way.
2034
01:27:08,180 --> 01:27:08,260
Yeah.
2035
01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:08,420
Yeah.
2036
01:27:08,420 --> 01:27:14,979
So if you wanna go watch this, you're in for a
you're in for $5k minimum before you even
2037
01:27:14,979 --> 01:27:16,114
fucking sniff anything.
2038
01:27:16,114 --> 01:27:17,715
Like, before you get out there.
2039
01:27:17,715 --> 01:27:18,034
Yeah.
2040
01:27:18,034 --> 01:27:19,475
This is what I'm talking about.
2041
01:27:19,475 --> 01:27:25,234
This right here is why we are like, there's a
nice level of just being pissed off about this
2042
01:27:25,234 --> 01:27:25,975
whole thing.
2043
01:27:26,034 --> 01:27:31,729
And that right there is just the fucking cherry
on the top of pile of shit.
2044
01:27:32,029 --> 01:27:35,889
And you're telling me that at at at a at one of
my Got the visual.
2045
01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:38,429
Public golf courses in the world.
2046
01:27:38,429 --> 01:27:43,170
They have a sign that says, don't fucking play
here if you can't break par.
2047
01:27:43,694 --> 01:27:49,375
And you're telling me that we're gonna just go
ahead and box out everybody that actually cares
2048
01:27:49,375 --> 01:27:54,335
about golf and that will make it an exciting
tournament, and you're just gonna make it for
2049
01:27:54,895 --> 01:27:56,159
those that can afford it?
2050
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,720
Well, I suppose it's part of what it's about.
2051
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,079
Every Ryder Cup, though.
2052
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:00,400
Right?
2053
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:00,640
Like...
2054
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:01,680
Yeah.
2055
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,199
But this place is different.
2056
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:05,840
Keegan's not a fucking, you know...
2057
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:06,239
yeah.
2058
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:13,895
He's a homegrown kid, but it's supposed to be
about the groundswell of the American public
2059
01:28:13,895 --> 01:28:18,454
being behind this tournament to fucking get
these guys to pull their head out of their ass
2060
01:28:18,454 --> 01:28:20,154
and go play some fucking golf.
2061
01:28:20,534 --> 01:28:23,335
Not how much they're paying for fucking
tickets,
2062
01:28:23,335 --> 01:28:29,020
which is I mean, they would be the whole Ryder
Cup selection, too.
2063
01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:35,579
I'm going to be really interested to see if he
actually picks Bryson and Brooks, which are
2064
01:28:35,579 --> 01:28:38,460
perfect fits for that golf course.
2065
01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:39,599
You got to be a bomber.
2066
01:28:39,784 --> 01:28:41,405
You have to be a bomber at Bethpage.
2067
01:28:41,704 --> 01:28:42,925
That's the bottom line.
2068
01:28:43,064 --> 01:28:44,585
So they can play.
2069
01:28:44,585 --> 01:28:45,085
Correct?
2070
01:28:47,064 --> 01:28:48,104
Because it's a PGA.
2071
01:28:48,104 --> 01:28:53,805
It's a PGA of America thing, which the PGA of
America has let them into the PGA Championship.
2072
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,699
So I assume all picks are on the table.
2073
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:58,573
I mean, only one guy.
2074
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:59,880
Got only one guy.
2075
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:02,220
I think we've had it confirmed.
2076
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:07,260
Now Keegan did raise some eyebrows when he
said, I'm gonna pick the best players, period.
2077
01:29:07,854 --> 01:29:07,935
Mhmm.
2078
01:29:07,935 --> 01:29:08,975
Well, and he can do that.
2079
01:29:08,975 --> 01:29:09,695
And you know what?
2080
01:29:09,695 --> 01:29:12,655
I will be lockstep with whatever he chooses.
2081
01:29:12,655 --> 01:29:13,954
That guy is a stud.
2082
01:29:14,255 --> 01:29:15,135
I mean, he knows that.
2083
01:29:15,375 --> 01:29:17,454
And I don't think he's afraid either.
2084
01:29:17,454 --> 01:29:21,614
He kinda has that chip on his shoulder to where
he's like, alright, fire me then as the
2085
01:29:21,614 --> 01:29:22,114
captain.
2086
01:29:22,530 --> 01:29:25,590
So we'll see what ends up playing out with all
of that.
2087
01:29:25,890 --> 01:29:28,310
Let's get into some personal goals here,
gentlemen.
2088
01:29:29,649 --> 01:29:32,229
Brent, what's your personal goals for this
year?
2089
01:29:34,210 --> 01:29:35,875
You sure you wanna hear
2090
01:29:36,095 --> 01:29:36,255
it?
2091
01:29:36,255 --> 01:29:37,395
I wanna hear it.
2092
01:29:37,454 --> 01:29:38,354
Oh, gosh.
2093
01:29:38,814 --> 01:29:40,755
Personally, it has nothing to do with golf.
2094
01:29:40,975 --> 01:29:41,614
Oh, no.
2095
01:29:41,614 --> 01:29:42,414
Golf related.
2096
01:29:42,414 --> 01:29:42,814
Sorry.
2097
01:29:42,895 --> 01:29:43,454
Get golf related.
2098
01:29:43,454 --> 01:29:45,055
Let's keep this in the golf lane.
2099
01:29:45,055 --> 01:29:45,295
Yeah.
2100
01:29:45,295 --> 01:29:47,235
It's like pop out 12 more children.
2101
01:29:47,670 --> 01:29:48,030
No.
2102
01:29:48,030 --> 01:29:50,070
My wife doesn't want one more at least.
2103
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:51,430
But, no.
2104
01:29:51,989 --> 01:29:59,444
As far as golf's concerned, I would love to see
my work pay off.
2105
01:29:59,444 --> 01:30:07,045
It's been quite a long time, and the goal is to
win either a Korn Ferry or a PGA Tour event
2106
01:30:07,045 --> 01:30:14,949
this year, but consistently, putt well and I
was going to sell my mother-in-law for
2107
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:15,689
seriously?
2108
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:20,170
for tickets, but I think I can get more oh,
Jesus.
2109
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:20,630
Yeah.
2110
01:30:20,630 --> 01:30:21,130
Absolutely.
2111
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:22,729
Oh, 100%.
2112
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:24,250
That's beautiful.
2113
01:30:25,005 --> 01:30:31,265
But, yeah, win a PGA Tour or Korn Ferry Tour
event and put on a show with a flat stick.
2114
01:30:31,564 --> 01:30:32,204
How about both?
2115
01:30:32,204 --> 01:30:33,164
How about both of those?
2116
01:30:33,164 --> 01:30:36,765
How about we have a Korn Ferry Tour win and a
PGA Tour win?
2117
01:30:36,765 --> 01:30:37,984
That'd be something else.
2118
01:30:38,125 --> 01:30:38,765
That'd be great.
2119
01:30:38,765 --> 01:30:39,265
Right?
2120
01:30:39,484 --> 01:30:40,465
Be a good year.
2121
01:30:40,579 --> 01:30:42,039
Buttsy, what about you, man?
2122
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:44,840
Oh, I think I talked about it a little bit
earlier.
2123
01:30:45,619 --> 01:30:50,819
Like I said, no one loves a blacked-out
Saturday around more than me, but I think I'd
2124
01:30:50,819 --> 01:30:55,319
like to start engaging in something I used to
do when I was a lot younger.
2125
01:30:55,564 --> 01:31:00,685
And just the grind of it, get back into the
grind a little bit more, maybe, you know,
2126
01:31:00,685 --> 01:31:04,045
become a better player and just tee it up in
some shit.
2127
01:31:04,045 --> 01:31:09,319
Even if it's local little, you know, $200, $300
tournaments, just have a reason to go out and
2128
01:31:09,319 --> 01:31:11,000
grind and get a little better at golf again.
2129
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,340
It's a good thing I moved back to the Valley
then.
2130
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,159
It's on.
2131
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:14,699
It's on.
2132
01:31:15,559 --> 01:31:16,699
Like Donkey Kong.
2133
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:19,399
Now, for myself
2134
01:31:19,639 --> 01:31:20,199
Yeah, Matty.
2135
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:21,000
Give it to us.
2136
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:21,739
Come on.
2137
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:27,885
Last year heading into the new year, before I
got to it, I've had a rough 2024 health-wise.
2138
01:31:27,885 --> 01:31:32,284
If I kind of look back for three months, I was
hit with long COVID at the beginning of the
2139
01:31:32,284 --> 01:31:38,159
year, which deterred and derailed all the
momentum that I had coming into the year
2140
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:44,079
because I was training to start playing
professionally again or at least give it that
2141
01:31:44,079 --> 01:31:46,079
kind of one last shot at it.
2142
01:31:46,079 --> 01:31:52,875
I was training with a golf instructor, had the
mental coach, had my fitness trainer, and
2143
01:31:52,875 --> 01:31:54,574
everything was heading in the right direction.
2144
01:31:55,354 --> 01:32:00,954
And, man, I just got absolutely hit with that,
and that's how I'm kinda ending the year as
2145
01:32:00,954 --> 01:32:01,694
well here.
2146
01:32:02,314 --> 01:32:08,014
But I would say that for 2025, I've got two big
golf goals.
2147
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:09,449
One is to play more.
2148
01:32:09,670 --> 01:32:10,170
Mhmm.
2149
01:32:10,469 --> 01:32:10,869
Okay?
2150
01:32:10,869 --> 01:32:15,109
And when I'm talking about playing more, I
wanna play some competitive golf.
2151
01:32:15,109 --> 01:32:18,090
And kinda like you, Buttsy, kinda same thing.
2152
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:21,670
Doesn't have to be, like, I'm going to play
Monday qualifiers or anything like that.
2153
01:32:21,670 --> 01:32:25,114
I wanna play some competitive golf and get my
golf game back.
2154
01:32:25,255 --> 01:32:33,814
And then the second part to it is I want to do
a broadcast at some point.
2155
01:32:33,814 --> 01:32:39,859
Yeah, a golf broadcast, and hopefully that
opportunity presents itself.
2156
01:32:39,859 --> 01:32:43,699
But that's my other goal for 2025 golf-wise.
2157
01:32:43,699 --> 01:32:50,199
So, 1, start playing some more golf
competitively, and then, 2, do a golf broadcast
2158
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:51,239
at some point.
2159
01:32:51,300 --> 01:32:54,404
Now our podcast goals for 2025.
2160
01:32:55,664 --> 01:33:00,305
I was gonna say, we need to touch on that
because it'd be nice to see this thing, you
2161
01:33:00,305 --> 01:33:01,925
know, do a little moonshot.
2162
01:33:02,704 --> 01:33:03,204
Yeah.
2163
01:33:03,984 --> 01:33:10,640
So our podcast goals for 2025, number 1, you
always want to increase listenership year over
2164
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:11,140
year.
2165
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,000
This year, we made some big jumps.
2166
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:22,720
We basically went from about right around
roughly 10,000 listeners to over 30,000 this
2167
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:23,175
year.
2168
01:33:23,494 --> 01:33:24,715
So average.
2169
01:33:25,175 --> 01:33:31,014
That being said, I would love to see that
number be at least 60,000 by the end of next
2170
01:33:31,014 --> 01:33:31,514
year.
2171
01:33:31,814 --> 01:33:37,179
And, I mean, the big hairy aggressive goal is
to get over 100,000 listeners on a weekly basis
2172
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,020
for the Pull Hook Golf podcast.
2173
01:33:40,119 --> 01:33:46,460
The second thing, and I'll be perfectly, oh,
well, let me go back to that real quick.
2174
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,060
How do we accomplish that?
2175
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:51,524
By creating great content for our audience.
2176
01:33:52,225 --> 01:33:57,685
So the one thing that I request from our
audience moving forward is more engagement.
2177
01:33:57,904 --> 01:34:02,645
Let us know what you want us to be talking
about, what you liked about episodes.
2178
01:34:03,104 --> 01:34:07,880
Help us get there in terms of the content that
you want to see because you're very much a part
2179
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,899
of this show along with us.
2180
01:34:10,199 --> 01:34:16,199
Now with that, we're gonna be perfectly
straightforward and say that we also want to
2181
01:34:16,199 --> 01:34:17,880
increase the money around the show.
2182
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,699
We want to increase our sponsorships and
partnerships.
2183
01:34:21,755 --> 01:34:26,474
We've made a big move with DevRel Golf and are
looking for some more.
2184
01:34:27,114 --> 01:34:34,154
We do have some more sponsors coming in at the
beginning of 2025, so that's exciting, but we
2185
01:34:34,154 --> 01:34:38,229
really want to increase those revenue numbers
around it as a whole.
2186
01:34:38,449 --> 01:34:46,369
And then, ultimately, we had some delays around
this last piece, which was a big goal at the
2187
01:34:46,369 --> 01:34:48,770
end of last year that we thought we were going
to be able to launch.
2188
01:34:48,930 --> 01:34:54,104
We've had some issues around it just due to,
I'm not going
2189
01:34:54,585 --> 01:34:55,784
It is what it is.
2190
01:34:55,784 --> 01:34:59,564
I'm not going to go into detail around it, but
we got screwed over a bit.
2191
01:34:59,864 --> 01:35:06,345
But it's the launch of our YouTube golf channel
where we have matches, and that's something
2192
01:35:06,345 --> 01:35:10,729
that we're hoping to get launched at some point
this year.
2193
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:15,850
You know, the delay has—I don't know if it's
been a good thing.
2194
01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:18,729
There's got to be a silver lining there
somewhere.
2195
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:26,454
But, I will say that launching the YouTube golf
channel will be a priority for the podcast.
2196
01:35:26,454 --> 01:35:31,595
Well, the silver lining is that we learned how
to go out and do it
2197
01:35:31,814 --> 01:35:32,614
and quickly.
2198
01:35:32,614 --> 01:35:32,854
Yeah.
2199
01:35:32,854 --> 01:35:33,175
Very
2200
01:35:33,414 --> 01:35:37,979
capture the footage and get the audio right
and, you know, how to play along so that the
2201
01:35:37,979 --> 01:35:41,260
audience knows what's going on, hole to hole,
all that shit.
2202
01:35:41,260 --> 01:35:45,659
And we do have a backlog of footage that's
probably fucking amazing.
2203
01:35:45,659 --> 01:35:47,760
We just need to get somebody to edit.
2204
01:35:47,819 --> 01:35:48,619
Oh god.
2205
01:35:48,619 --> 01:35:52,034
Sounds like we're gonna have an off-camera
conversation.
2206
01:35:52,894 --> 01:35:59,375
If, by the way, any audience members know a
rising star video editor, let us know.
2207
01:36:00,175 --> 01:36:04,175
We are looking to interview for this role.
2208
01:36:04,175 --> 01:36:08,810
It's gonna be a big role moving into this year,
or into 2025.
2209
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:13,270
So, and it's gonna be big around the YouTube
golf content with us playing golf.
2210
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:17,609
So that is a big piece of this whole ordeal.
2211
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:20,654
Any final comments, Brent?
2212
01:36:20,654 --> 01:36:23,774
You mentioned something, but I do wanna bring
up Brian here.
2213
01:36:23,774 --> 01:36:30,414
He says if Brent wins this season, I dare him
to say during his post-round presser, yeah, I
2214
01:36:30,414 --> 01:36:31,795
don't really give a shit.
2215
01:36:33,070 --> 01:36:33,650
Oh, okay.
2216
01:36:35,229 --> 01:36:35,630
Done.
2217
01:36:35,630 --> 01:36:36,110
Alright.
2218
01:36:36,110 --> 01:36:37,890
Brent already has a reputation.
2219
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:41,729
We do not need to exacerbate this entire rep.
2220
01:36:43,229 --> 01:36:44,110
But I don't care?
2221
01:36:44,110 --> 01:36:44,610
Yeah.
2222
01:36:46,045 --> 01:36:46,364
What do
2223
01:36:46,364 --> 01:36:47,804
you think about this guy from Barstool?
2224
01:36:47,804 --> 01:36:49,104
I have no fucking clue.
2225
01:36:51,804 --> 01:36:53,324
What about this guy named Beef?
2226
01:36:53,324 --> 01:36:54,625
Wasn't that done before?
2227
01:36:54,684 --> 01:36:57,324
I'm pretty sure Brian Johnston already did
that.
2228
01:36:57,324 --> 01:36:57,965
It's due for me.
2229
01:36:57,965 --> 01:36:59,404
Boys, this is horrible timing.
2230
01:36:59,564 --> 01:37:00,864
Parting comments here.
2231
01:37:00,979 --> 01:37:05,079
Like I said, I'm sitting on an absolute
10-point buck right now.
2232
01:37:05,460 --> 01:37:05,960
So,
2233
01:37:07,140 --> 01:37:08,439
Why are you too hard?
2234
01:37:09,060 --> 01:37:09,380
No.
2235
01:37:09,380 --> 01:37:09,699
No.
2236
01:37:09,699 --> 01:37:10,979
I mean, like, turd.
2237
01:37:10,979 --> 01:37:11,380
I gotta
2238
01:37:11,380 --> 01:37:12,119
get that.
2239
01:37:12,340 --> 01:37:12,659
Yeah.
2240
01:37:12,659 --> 01:37:16,520
I was like, I was getting really weirded out
here for a second.
2241
01:37:16,774 --> 01:37:17,895
Big sandwich earlier.
2242
01:37:17,895 --> 01:37:20,375
I've had, like, six bottles of water sitting
here.
2243
01:37:20,375 --> 01:37:21,435
Dude, I'd love to see.
2244
01:37:21,734 --> 01:37:22,215
You know what?
2245
01:37:22,215 --> 01:37:24,395
How about this goal from the podcast?
2246
01:37:24,454 --> 01:37:28,474
We all get incrementally healthier as the year
goes on.
2247
01:37:28,614 --> 01:37:29,574
I need it, man.
2248
01:37:29,574 --> 01:37:30,295
I need a bath.
2249
01:37:30,295 --> 01:37:30,750
Yes.
2250
01:37:30,909 --> 01:37:33,550
I'm a I'm a I'm a put that one on the top.
2251
01:37:33,710 --> 01:37:38,109
Even thinking about it, like, the first three
months of this year felt like a different year.
2252
01:37:38,109 --> 01:37:40,670
I didn't realize it was the same freaking year.
2253
01:37:40,670 --> 01:37:41,949
I've been sick a lot this year.
2254
01:37:41,949 --> 01:37:43,310
And my wife kept telling me that.
2255
01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:45,345
I'm like, I don't really think I have been.
2256
01:37:45,345 --> 01:37:47,905
And then sure enough, just talking with you
guys, I'm like, oh, shit.
2257
01:37:47,905 --> 01:37:48,305
Yeah.
2258
01:37:48,305 --> 01:37:49,905
I was down and out for the first time.
2259
01:37:49,905 --> 01:37:51,664
We gotta get you in the sauna, bro.
2260
01:37:51,664 --> 01:37:55,905
That's like blood work done, some vitamins,
some AG1 or some shit.
2261
01:37:55,905 --> 01:37:56,545
You know?
2262
01:37:56,545 --> 01:37:56,864
Yeah.
2263
01:37:56,864 --> 01:37:57,505
There you go.
2264
01:37:57,505 --> 01:37:58,164
That sauna.
2265
01:37:58,639 --> 01:37:58,800
Alright.
2266
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,819
Well, we do wanna give a special thanks to our
sponsor, Devereux Golf.
2267
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:08,399
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2268
01:38:08,399 --> 01:38:10,399
That is three e's in there, folks.
2269
01:38:10,399 --> 01:38:10,960
So it's
2270
01:38:16,494 --> 01:38:17,795
And until next time.
2271
01:38:47,965 --> 01:38:49,344
Paytown down.
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