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Matt Cook chats with Parker McLachlin about his golf journey, mental coaching, and his unique PGA Tour win in Hawaii. They explore the creation of the Short Game Chef, Parker's coaching philosophy, and what makes his short game coaching stand out. Parker shares practical chipping tips for average golfers and strategies for Bermuda grass. They also discuss instructor rivalries, social media's role, and critiques of standardized methods. Parker introduces the Short Game Chef online program and app, discusses community building, and answers rapid-fire questions. The episode concludes with Tour Championship predictions and closing thoughts.

(0:00) Introduction and Parker McLaughlin's journey in golf
(1:04) Parker McLaughlin's early days and transition to professional golf
(6:05) Hawaiian PGA Tour winners and the role of mental coaching
(9:51) Creation of Short Game Chef and unique PGA Tour win
(13:53) Short game coaching and teaching philosophy
(18:08) Differentiating factors in Parker's short game coaching
(19:49) Chipping advice for average golfers
(28:43) Playing strategies for Bermuda grass
(34:30) Instructor rivalries and social media in golf
(36:38) Short game techniques and variety importance
(47:47) Critique of standardized instruction methods
(49:01) Media's influence on golf instruction
(50:50) Introduction to Short Game Chef online program and app
(58:22) Short Game Chef community building and rapid fire Q&A
(1:04:11) Tour Championship predictions and closing thoughts

Show Transcript

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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.

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I'm your host, Matt Cook.

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And today, we're diving into the world of short
game mastery because if you've been listening

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to this podcast, you know my short game sucks.

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So we've got a special guest today and PGA Tour
winner and now short game guru, Parker

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McLachlin.

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I mean, your journey through professional golf
is nothing short of inspiring.

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From winning on the PGA Tour to becoming known
now as the Short Game Chef, we're gonna get

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into all of that and how you've dedicated your
career to helping golfers of all levels and

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helping them sharpen their short game skills,
which I think is the most difficult aspect of

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golf, in general.

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But once again, we'll get to that in a little
bit.

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But, folks, in this episode, we're gonna
explore Parker's background.

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We're gonna talk about how his path to the PGA
Tour helped him transition into this Short Game

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Chef and, really the success of his online
platform.

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And then we'll dive into some practical
chipping advice for all of you.

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So without further ado, welcome, Parker.

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Let's get started here.

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Let's get started with your beginning.

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Can you tell us, I mean, from the early days
of, you know, growing up in Hawaii and so

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forth, how'd you ultimately get from a little
kid in Hawaii to making it onto the PGA Tour?

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Yeah.

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I mean, good question.

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I think, no.

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I was always a gym rat.

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So my my dad was a basketball coach, and a
volleyball coach.

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My mom was a volleyball player, like, so I I
was always in the gym.

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And so, I mean, I grew up with a basketball and
a volleyball in my hands, and and those were

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sort of my first two loves.

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And then along came golf when I was sort of
like, you know, 10, 11.

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I got introduced to it, and I was like, I
started to get frustrated.

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Some of my teammates in basketball and
volleyball, they they would show up late, and

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we would have to run lines because of them.

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And I just remember thinking to myself, like,
golf is a little bit more of an individual

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sport, and so however much I work, I usually
see payoff in the end on my end as far as

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success goes.

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So that's sort of what initially attracted me
to golf, and then, you know, I didn't have

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great access to golf courses growing up.

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We weren't a member of any country club or
anything like that.

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I grew up playing at the local muni golf
course.

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It was called Ala Wai Golf Course, and it's
actually the, the most—it had like a Guinness

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Book of World Records for the most rounds of
golf on a golf course in one year, like

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something like 255,000 rounds in a year played.

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It was like the busiest golf course on planet
Earth, right?

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Because you got basically, you know, it's in
Waikiki.

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You got sunshine every day.

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And so they play sixes and six-minute interval
tee times.

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I'm not kidding you.

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It's crazy.

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You get to the third hole, and it's like a
four-group backup.

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You jump the fence, you go across to Jack in
the Box, and you get some food, and you come

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back.

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Anyway, that's how I kind of grew up.

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But I did a lot of, I was more into playing, so
I would always go out in the afternoon.

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Parents would drop me off, and I would play in
the afternoon.

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So I'd go and play nine holes, and I would just
hit a bunch of shots, and I loved the feeling

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of being creative, being behind coconut trees,
and having to shape it up and over or around

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it, left or right.

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So, and then, you know, missing greens and
just, you know, hitting a bunch of shots around

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the greens.

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For me.

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Like that was the really cool part about golf
was the creativity.

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That was what I, what really drew me to the
game.

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And, and then, you know, I was decent in high
school.

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I was good enough to sort of get a half
scholarship to UCLA and went over there and

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played for, a redshirt my first year played for
four more years.

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And then it was sort of like, I was never great
in college, but I had a couple of second-place

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finishes, but I was always kind of, you know,
15th to 35th, I'd say.

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And I, you know, I think, I think for me, I
ended up having a wrist surgery after college

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and it took some time.

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I probably had about nine months where I
couldn't touch a golf club.

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And so I took some time to really work on my
mental game.

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And I met a sports psychologist.

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I started reading a bunch of books.

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We started implementing some of the things I
was learning in the books.

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And, and then I turned pro, after sort of about
a year's time.

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And that was, you know, to me, like, that was,
that was the then separator of going from a

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mediocre college golfer to then I won on every
major mini tour, in the next two years, from

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the Hooters Tour, the Gateway Tour, the All Pro
Tour, the Spanos Tour.

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Like, I won on every single major mini tour the
next couple years after really I didn't win at

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all in college.

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And so a lot of it was just that mental part of
it that I just sort of unlocked, that proper

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sort of mental state for me and how to the
right things to feed my mind, but then also the

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right things, like how to get me into a flow
state.

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And and then I just sort of general, you know,
just gently ascended up to the PGA Tour.

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So a couple of years on the mini tour, one year
on the Korn Ferry Tour, and then, and then got

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my tour card.

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So that was you know, there there's not a lot
of us that come from Hawaii that have made it

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to the PGA Tour.

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I think I think there's been four of us that
have, that have won on the PGA Tour that have

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been born and raised in Hawaii.

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So it's a small, it's a small group.

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Can you name them?

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I I know Collin Morikawa.

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You.

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I don't know the other two, though, off the top
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Collin is actually from L.A.

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So it's,

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Dean Wilson.

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That's right.

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The media loves to play it up around how he is
a Hawaiian kid and so forth, but you're right.

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He's L.A.

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His parents were from Hawaii.

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He spent some time there, but, so hang on.

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So let's go back to the list.

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Yep.

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So Dean Wilson, David Ishii, and Ted Makalena.

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Okay.

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And myself.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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That's a good trivia question right there.

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I love that.

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Now, you mentioned something that we talk about
on this podcast a lot, which is around the

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mental side of the game and how you got a
mental coach in order to help you really kind

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of hone in your mental side of the game of
golf.

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And I don't think this is paid enough attention
to per se, but you're going back to where, you

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know, that wasn't a popular thing to do.

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What kind of pushed you to go down that path?

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Man.

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That's a good question.

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I think that, you know, for me, it's, you know,
I was always great at short game.

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You've got Montreux as your background there
behind you.

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And on that Sunday, when I won my only tour
event, I hit five greens in regulation on that

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Sunday and I hit one green in regulation on the
first nine holes and I was 8 for 8 in up and

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downs.

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So I've always been really solid with my short
game.

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And so, you know, when I, you know, I didn't
start this out of like, hey, I'm going to just

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sort of start a business.

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It was like a caddie friend of mine said, look,
your short game's caddied for me a bunch of

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times.

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And he's like, your short game is ridiculous.

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You should do some tips on Instagram about how
people can get better with their short game.

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Like I've never heard anyone describe it the
way you describe it.

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And so I was like, all right.

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So he filmed a dozen videos for me, little
one-minute videos.

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And he helped me sort of set up an Instagram
account because I'd never, I'd never been on

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Instagram before.

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And, and he's like, okay, now you gotta come up
with like a, like a catchy name.

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And I was like, can't just use my own name.

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He's like, no, no, no, come up with like a
catchy name.

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And so I came up with Short Game Chef because,
you know, every shot around the green requires

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some type of different ingredient or some type
of different recipe.

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If you want to go high and soft, or if you want
to go low and spinning, there's all sorts of

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different shots and each shot calls for a
different type of a recipe.

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So for me, I was like, well, short game guru,
not a little too self-serving, short game

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wizard.

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So I was like, I sort of settled on it.

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I knew it was going to be about the short game.

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I wasn't going to be talking about the long
game.

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I was going to be talking about the short game.

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So then I said short game and then chef.

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And then I started as time has gone on, I, you
start to see even on the PGA Tour feed now.

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Someone will hit a short game shot and they'll
be like, that was so saucy.

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Or they'll just have like the chef's kiss, the
chef's kiss emoji.

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Right.

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And it's like, oh my gosh.

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Like, I don't know if it was sort of me that
sort of started that or if it's just the short

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game and, you know, saucy chef, all that
recipe, all that stuff kind of goes together.

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But, but yeah, anyway, that's how it all sort
of got started.

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And literally two days after I had put my
Instagram account up, Kevin's real man reached

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out to me and said, hey, I see you're doing
some short game teaching.

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I'd love to spend a couple of hours with you.

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And so my first paid lesson was to the guy
ranked 93rd in the world.

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And I was like, I better figure this out.

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And then it's just been, it's literally just
been word-of-mouth ever since.

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That's incredible.

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Let's go back though, because most people can't
even dream, or they do dream of winning on the

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PGA Tour.

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And I gotta ask you because this was a unique
win on the PGA Tour, because you mentioned it

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before as to how many greens you hit, but I
believe you only hit one green in your first 10

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holes in that final round and ended up still
winning by seven shots.

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I mean, that's it.

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That once again, another great trivia question.

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What is the who is the only player to hit 1
green in their final 10 hole or their first 10

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holes of the final round and still win by 7
shots?

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It's like, tell us about that experience.

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Oh, man.

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It was, you know, like the first three days, I
just felt like my golf swing was just right in

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the slot.

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I just, I couldn't miss.

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My putting was on point, and, you know, I shoot
68, 62, 66, and I've built up a six-shot lead

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over second, a nine-shot lead over third, and
an 11-shot lead over fourth.

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So, like, I was blitzing the field.

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And then all of a sudden, like the last, like
hole and a half on Saturday, I started feeling

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a little bit tighter through impact.

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The ball started coming off the clubface a
little bit more low heel, which is sort of like

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handle raise and hold onto it for me.

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And it was just like it just I knew it just
didn't quite feel right.

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And I was like, uh-oh.

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I think I might've lost it.

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So, and so I didn't sleep much that night
because I was just, like, you know, in my own

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head, you know, like, oh, I've got a six-shot
lead.

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You know, these are the days of Tiger Woods
where you're like, Tiger's the only guy that

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wins by this much.

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And so I've got this huge lead and, you know,
all the negative thoughts that could possibly

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go through your head go through your head, and
you just all the mental work that I'd done, it

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was, like, trying so hard to just, like, just
keep out the bad thoughts and harness the good

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thoughts.

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Like, Happy Gilmore.

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Right?

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It's like, keep out the bad, harness the good.

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And it was hard.

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It was just hard to do, and it was a it was a
it was a tough night.

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I didn't sleep, hardly at all.

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Late tee time the next day, get out to the golf
course, and and I was just like, okay.

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Just gotta get to the range, and then it'll
it'll all be fine.

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And then I get to the range, and I didn't hit
one shot in the center of the clubface in my

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warmup session.

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And it was just like, oh man, this might be a
rough one.

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I better buckle up and really be ready to
grind.

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And so I did, I grinded one green in
regulation.

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The first nine holes, I was even par.

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Missed the green in regulation on 10, made
bogey.

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And, yeah, I mean, I really never felt
comfortable at all in that entire round until I

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hit my second shot on 18 onto the green.

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That's not we.

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It was a brutal, brutal day.

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I've talked about this with PGA Tour caddies
that sometimes for them, even when their player

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has a big lead, that they're most fearful at
that point because it's like the thoughts start

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creeping in and all of a sudden it's really
hard to sleep on a big lead on Saturday night.

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So everything that you just said resonates with
the audience, resonates with me specifically,

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as I'm like, wow, that fits perfectly in line
with everything else I've heard from everybody

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that's kind of been in that position.

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But clearly, you've got an insane short game
because you missed nine greens in your first 10

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holes and still ended up winning by seven.

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So now we gotta get into the fact of you
transitioning into the Short Game Chef and

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getting into that side of the business.

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You've already talked a little bit about this,
as we've been talking about how you kinda had a

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buddy set up an Instagram account for you.

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You gotta create a cool name, so the recipes, I
totally get that with each of the different

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short game shots and so forth.

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But, in that transition, I mean, you knew that
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think, oh, you know what?

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I can actually teach this, and what's being
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now.

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Yeah.

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So I think I think where I saw a gap in, like,
playing a bunch of pro-ams, seeing amateurs

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struggle, you know, I saw a gap as to, like,
well, what is it that they're trying to do and

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then what is being taught?

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Like, what are they telling me that they're
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You know, a lot of them were telling me, like,
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my stance.

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I'm trying to get the shaft forward.

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I really want to get good ball contact.

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And they would inevitably either get really
good ball contact and it would go over the

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green, or they would fear that really good ball
contact and then they would back out of it and

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then they would chunk it.

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And then the second that they went into that
chunk mode, they went back here and then they

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would flip at it, and then all of a sudden it
would become a blade.

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So their really good shots were actually, like,
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And then their bad shots, they were still
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green.

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They're chipping back.

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So I just started looking at this stuff, and
I'm like, boy, the information that they're

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being given is not necessarily right.

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It's not what tour players are doing.

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I think that there's a way that I can explain
this to people in a simple and digestible way

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that can really help them to make their chip
shots a little bit easier and not so precise

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and not so difficult.

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Man, that is music to my ears because I'll tell
you.

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I mean, I'm one of those guys that you just
described to where it's like, okay.

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I'm either going to have it a little bit heavy
and leave it short or I'm blasting it over the

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green.

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So, I definitely think I could use your help by
all means.

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But that being said, do you think the short
game side of it is kind of a competitive area

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where there are certain guys that have this
niche of being a short game guru, so to speak?

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But how do you differentiate yourself?

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Is it from a PGA Tour standpoint that, hey, I
played, I won?

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Or is it something different that you feel like
is your unique approach?

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Yeah.

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I think there's a handful of things that I do
really well.

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One of them is my pedigree.

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Right?

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So obviously having played on every sort of
mini tour, Korn Ferry Tour, PGA Tour, having a

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win on the PGA Tour, you know, that gives me
the understanding of what it feels like to play

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and sort of choke at the highest level and then
what works the best under those high-stress

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situations.

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So that's one sort of part of it.

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I think the other part of it is, you know, I
was mentored for about seven years by Paul

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Azinger, who, in my opinion, has got one of the
best short games when he was playing.

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He still does.

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And Paul's, you know, from what I can tell and
the people that I've talked to, Paul's got a

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top-three golf IQ of all time, and he's in that
upper echelon of people that just think about

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things differently.

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And so I was able to learn quite a bit from
him, and in learning that, I take some of that

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and I'm able to pass that along to my clients
in a way I communicate to them in a very easily

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digestible way.

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And I think that part of it is hard to quantify
because, you know, when you go through my

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website and you go through the app that we've
created, the videos are made in like one and a

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half to three and a half minute videos so that
you're able to digest that information, take it

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in, and then you can move on to the next video
or just take down your notes or go practice it

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right then.

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So I think one of the greatest compliments that
I feel like I continue to get is that I make it

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so simple.

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I make it so easy and so simple and so easily
digestible for people.

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And I think that in a teacher, being a good
communicator is extremely valuable.

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It is huge.

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Yeah.

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Cause I could go and say, you know, I could go
and say a bunch of big words.

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Right.

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And tell you like, well, you're done, done,
done, done, done, you know, every, you know,

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and use all these huge words that were all of a
sudden it it you may think I'm smart, but you

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haven't necessarily learned anything because

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you got no idea what the hell you're saying.

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So far over your head.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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100%.

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So, you know, the point is, like, yeah, I want
to make it so that you can understand what I'm

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saying, that we can talk about a handful of
different things, and that hopefully one of

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those things fits and sticks and that you're
able to take that in and be like, that's your

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light bulb moment.

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That's a feel or a thought, or a cue that you
can latch onto, and that'll help carry you

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through when you're hitting your short game
shots.

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I

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love that.

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Now we're gonna get into just some average
golfer chipping advice here.

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Alright?

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So we're gonna test you a little bit and give
the audience some tips that hopefully are going

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to help them.

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But chipping obviously can be one of the most
intimidating aspects of the short game for any

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golfer.

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But what's the first piece of advice you'd give
to any average golfer who struggles with

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consistency around the greens?

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Well, I would say that you would want to look
at a chip shot more like a bigger putting

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stroke than you would want to take it from your
normal 7-iron and shrink it down.

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I don't necessarily love being like, let me get
in a wide stance with my feet, let me push my

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hands forward, and let me just make a smaller
iron swing and hit this chip shot.

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Because then your body doesn't move, your feet
are too wide, hands are pressed forward.

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A lot of things are leading to this ball coming
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I think that a chip shot should be closer in
relation to a putting stroke than it would be a

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full swing with like a 7-iron.

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So I would always start with if you don't know
where to start chipping and you want to just be

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like, let's build a baseline foundation, bring
your feet all the way together, get them just

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touching, and just start there.

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Start moving your body, start moving your
torso, start moving your rib cage, start moving

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your arms in unison with all that.

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Don't start using the wrist just yet, but just
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That would be the very first place to start.

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And I would start with a lower lofted club like
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Start there if you just start, you know, two to
three yards off the green and start to build in

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a baseline, that would be my biggest suggestion
for someone who's maybe just starting out or

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maybe just unsure of what philosophy to sort of
go with.

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I love that because it is so tough to put
everybody into a box and to have general advice

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for people.

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And that right there was probably, I mean, I'm
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That's a really good freaking answer because
I've heard a lot of different answers to that

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question.

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I'm like, wow.

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That's actually really, really good.

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So clearly, folks, Parker knows his stuff.

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I don't think that is up for debate.

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Now I will get a little bit on the personal
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weekend.

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I struggled.

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I had the yips.

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I was chunking.

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I was thinning.

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There really wasn't any good ones in between,
and granted, I'm a 3.5 handicap right now.

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When I played and played on the mini tours,
like, you said that you were going all around

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1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,139 Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the podcast. 2 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:08,960 I'm your host, Matt Cook. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,054 And today, we're diving into the world of short game mastery because if you've been listening 4 00:00:13,054 --> 00:00:15,714 to this podcast, you know my short game sucks. 5 00:00:15,855 --> 00:00:21,934 So we've got a special guest today and PGA Tour winner and now short game guru, Parker 6 00:00:21,934 --> 00:00:22,434 McLachlin.

7 00:00:22,894 --> 00:00:28,149 I mean, your journey through professional golf is nothing short of inspiring. 8 00:00:28,449 --> 00:00:33,649 From winning on the PGA Tour to becoming known now as the Short Game Chef, we're gonna get 9 00:00:33,649 --> 00:00:39,090 into all of that and how you've dedicated your career to helping golfers of all levels and 10 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:43,804 helping them sharpen their short game skills, which I think is the most difficult aspect of 11 00:00:43,804 --> 00:00:45,564 golf, in general. 12 00:00:45,564 --> 00:00:47,725 But once again, we'll get to that in a little bit. 13 00:00:47,725 --> 00:00:50,784 But, folks, in this episode, we're gonna explore Parker's background.

14 00:00:50,844 --> 00:00:57,369 We're gonna talk about how his path to the PGA Tour helped him transition into this Short Game 15 00:00:57,369 --> 00:01:00,750 Chef and, really the success of his online platform. 16 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:04,750 And then we'll dive into some practical chipping advice for all of you. 17 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:07,530 So without further ado, welcome, Parker. 18 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:09,194 Let's get started here.

19 00:01:09,275 --> 00:01:11,694 Let's get started with your beginning. 20 00:01:12,234 --> 00:01:17,515 Can you tell us, I mean, from the early days of, you know, growing up in Hawaii and so 21 00:01:17,515 --> 00:01:23,295 forth, how'd you ultimately get from a little kid in Hawaii to making it onto the PGA Tour? 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Yeah. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,079 I mean, good question.

24 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:26,040 I think, no. 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,400 I was always a gym rat. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,200 So my my dad was a basketball coach, and a volleyball coach. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,579 My mom was a volleyball player, like, so I I was always in the gym.

28 00:01:36,275 --> 00:01:41,075 And so, I mean, I grew up with a basketball and a volleyball in my hands, and and those were 29 00:01:41,075 --> 00:01:42,534 sort of my first two loves. 30 00:01:43,075 --> 00:01:47,875 And then along came golf when I was sort of like, you know, 10, 11. 31 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:54,060 I got introduced to it, and I was like, I started to get frustrated. 32 00:01:54,060 --> 00:01:57,819 Some of my teammates in basketball and volleyball, they they would show up late, and 33 00:01:57,819 --> 00:02:00,159 we would have to run lines because of them.

34 00:02:00,379 --> 00:02:05,834 And I just remember thinking to myself, like, golf is a little bit more of an individual 35 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:14,715 sport, and so however much I work, I usually see payoff in the end on my end as far as 36 00:02:14,715 --> 00:02:15,354 success goes. 37 00:02:15,354 --> 00:02:20,430 So that's sort of what initially attracted me to golf, and then, you know, I didn't have 38 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:24,830 great access to golf courses growing up. 39 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:27,889 We weren't a member of any country club or anything like that. 40 00:02:29,069 --> 00:02:32,669 I grew up playing at the local muni golf course.

41 00:02:32,669 --> 00:02:39,044 It was called Ala Wai Golf Course, and it's actually the, the most—it had like a Guinness 42 00:02:39,044 --> 00:02:43,365 Book of World Records for the most rounds of golf on a golf course in one year, like 43 00:02:43,525 --> 00:02:48,405 something like 255,000 rounds in a year played. 44 00:02:48,405 --> 00:02:51,379 It was like the busiest golf course on planet Earth, right? 45 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:54,420 Because you got basically, you know, it's in Waikiki. 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,500 You got sunshine every day.

47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:02,000 And so they play sixes and six-minute interval tee times. 48 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,040 I'm not kidding you. 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,939 It's crazy. 50 00:03:04,284 --> 00:03:07,025 You get to the third hole, and it's like a four-group backup.

51 00:03:07,245 --> 00:03:12,365 You jump the fence, you go across to Jack in the Box, and you get some food, and you come 52 00:03:12,365 --> 00:03:12,865 back. 53 00:03:13,405 --> 00:03:15,324 Anyway, that's how I kind of grew up. 54 00:03:15,324 --> 00:03:21,459 But I did a lot of, I was more into playing, so I would always go out in the afternoon. 55 00:03:21,459 --> 00:03:24,739 Parents would drop me off, and I would play in the afternoon.

56 00:03:24,739 --> 00:03:31,724 So I'd go and play nine holes, and I would just hit a bunch of shots, and I loved the feeling 57 00:03:31,724 --> 00:03:37,245 of being creative, being behind coconut trees, and having to shape it up and over or around 58 00:03:37,245 --> 00:03:39,004 it, left or right. 59 00:03:39,004 --> 00:03:43,724 So, and then, you know, missing greens and just, you know, hitting a bunch of shots around 60 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:44,385 the greens. 61 00:03:45,239 --> 00:03:45,639 For me. 62 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:49,500 Like that was the really cool part about golf was the creativity.

63 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,780 That was what I, what really drew me to the game. 64 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:57,560 And, and then, you know, I was decent in high school. 65 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:04,764 I was good enough to sort of get a half scholarship to UCLA and went over there and 66 00:04:04,764 --> 00:04:08,944 played for, a redshirt my first year played for four more years. 67 00:04:09,085 --> 00:04:17,600 And then it was sort of like, I was never great in college, but I had a couple of second-place 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,819 finishes, but I was always kind of, you know, 15th to 35th, I'd say.

69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:29,745 And I, you know, I think, I think for me, I ended up having a wrist surgery after college 70 00:04:30,365 --> 00:04:32,205 and it took some time. 71 00:04:32,205 --> 00:04:35,824 I probably had about nine months where I couldn't touch a golf club. 72 00:04:36,125 --> 00:04:40,384 And so I took some time to really work on my mental game. 73 00:04:40,889 --> 00:04:42,589 And I met a sports psychologist.

74 00:04:42,729 --> 00:04:44,329 I started reading a bunch of books. 75 00:04:44,329 --> 00:04:47,850 We started implementing some of the things I was learning in the books. 76 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:53,850 And, and then I turned pro, after sort of about a year's time. 77 00:04:53,850 --> 00:05:00,034 And that was, you know, to me, like, that was, that was the then separator of going from a 78 00:05:00,034 --> 00:05:09,930 mediocre college golfer to then I won on every major mini tour, in the next two years, from 79 00:05:09,930 --> 00:05:18,009 the Hooters Tour, the Gateway Tour, the All Pro Tour, the Spanos Tour.

80 00:05:18,009 --> 00:05:23,904 Like, I won on every single major mini tour the next couple years after really I didn't win at 81 00:05:23,904 --> 00:05:24,884 all in college. 82 00:05:25,104 --> 00:05:31,584 And so a lot of it was just that mental part of it that I just sort of unlocked, that proper 83 00:05:31,584 --> 00:05:37,439 sort of mental state for me and how to the right things to feed my mind, but then also the 84 00:05:37,439 --> 00:05:40,099 right things, like how to get me into a flow state. 85 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:45,919 And and then I just sort of general, you know, just gently ascended up to the PGA Tour. 86 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:52,024 So a couple of years on the mini tour, one year on the Korn Ferry Tour, and then, and then got 87 00:05:52,024 --> 00:05:52,904 my tour card.

88 00:05:52,904 --> 00:05:56,824 So that was you know, there there's not a lot of us that come from Hawaii that have made it 89 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:57,964 to the PGA Tour. 90 00:05:59,064 --> 00:06:03,990 I think I think there's been four of us that have, that have won on the PGA Tour that have 91 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:05,269 been born and raised in Hawaii. 92 00:06:05,269 --> 00:06:06,870 So it's a small, it's a small group. 93 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:07,669 Can you name them?

94 00:06:07,669 --> 00:06:09,050 I I know Collin Morikawa. 95 00:06:09,589 --> 00:06:10,069 You. 96 00:06:10,069 --> 00:06:12,569 I don't know the other two, though, off the top of my head. 97 00:06:12,949 --> 00:06:14,889 Collin is actually from L.A.

98 00:06:15,345 --> 00:06:15,904 So it's, 99 00:06:16,305 --> 00:06:17,025 Dean Wilson. 100 00:06:17,504 --> 00:06:17,985 That's right. 101 00:06:17,985 --> 00:06:23,824 The media loves to play it up around how he is a Hawaiian kid and so forth, but you're right. 102 00:06:23,824 --> 00:06:24,725 He's L.A.

103 00:06:24,785 --> 00:06:26,384 His parents were from Hawaii. 104 00:06:26,384 --> 00:06:28,944 He spent some time there, but, so hang on. 105 00:06:28,944 --> 00:06:30,805 So let's go back to the list. 106 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:31,919 Yep.

107 00:06:31,919 --> 00:06:37,220 So Dean Wilson, David Ishii, and Ted Makalena. 108 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:38,000 Okay. 109 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,899 And myself. 110 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:39,519 Wow.

111 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:39,839 Yeah. 112 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,099 That's a good trivia question right there. 113 00:06:44,084 --> 00:06:45,045 I love that. 114 00:06:45,045 --> 00:06:51,285 Now, you mentioned something that we talk about on this podcast a lot, which is around the 115 00:06:51,285 --> 00:06:56,485 mental side of the game and how you got a mental coach in order to help you really kind 116 00:06:56,485 --> 00:07:00,129 of hone in your mental side of the game of golf.

117 00:07:00,129 --> 00:07:06,050 And I don't think this is paid enough attention to per se, but you're going back to where, you 118 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:08,629 know, that wasn't a popular thing to do. 119 00:07:08,769 --> 00:07:11,589 What kind of pushed you to go down that path? 120 00:07:15,345 --> 00:07:15,584 Man. 121 00:07:15,584 --> 00:07:16,464 That's a good question.

122 00:07:16,464 --> 00:07:21,745 I think that, you know, for me, it's, you know, I was always great at short game. 123 00:07:21,745 --> 00:07:25,104 You've got Montreux as your background there behind you. 124 00:07:25,104 --> 00:07:32,970 And on that Sunday, when I won my only tour event, I hit five greens in regulation on that 125 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:39,209 Sunday and I hit one green in regulation on the first nine holes and I was 8 for 8 in up and 126 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:39,709 downs. 127 00:07:40,415 --> 00:07:43,154 So I've always been really solid with my short game.

128 00:07:44,254 --> 00:07:49,615 And so, you know, when I, you know, I didn't start this out of like, hey, I'm going to just 129 00:07:49,615 --> 00:07:51,615 sort of start a business. 130 00:07:51,615 --> 00:07:57,110 It was like a caddie friend of mine said, look, your short game's caddied for me a bunch of 131 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:57,269 times. 132 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:59,529 And he's like, your short game is ridiculous. 133 00:08:00,470 --> 00:08:05,669 You should do some tips on Instagram about how people can get better with their short game.

134 00:08:05,669 --> 00:08:09,834 Like I've never heard anyone describe it the way you describe it. 135 00:08:09,834 --> 00:08:11,035 And so I was like, all right. 136 00:08:11,035 --> 00:08:14,894 So he filmed a dozen videos for me, little one-minute videos. 137 00:08:15,435 --> 00:08:19,995 And he helped me sort of set up an Instagram account because I'd never, I'd never been on 138 00:08:19,995 --> 00:08:20,975 Instagram before.

139 00:08:21,419 --> 00:08:25,180 And, and he's like, okay, now you gotta come up with like a, like a catchy name. 140 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:27,899 And I was like, can't just use my own name. 141 00:08:27,899 --> 00:08:30,319 He's like, no, no, no, come up with like a catchy name. 142 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:36,205 And so I came up with Short Game Chef because, you know, every shot around the green requires 143 00:08:36,264 --> 00:08:39,404 some type of different ingredient or some type of different recipe.

144 00:08:39,705 --> 00:08:43,865 If you want to go high and soft, or if you want to go low and spinning, there's all sorts of 145 00:08:43,865 --> 00:08:47,404 different shots and each shot calls for a different type of a recipe. 146 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,919 So for me, I was like, well, short game guru, not a little too self-serving, short game 147 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:53,419 wizard. 148 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,120 So I was like, I sort of settled on it. 149 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,879 I knew it was going to be about the short game.

150 00:08:57,879 --> 00:08:59,320 I wasn't going to be talking about the long game. 151 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,759 I was going to be talking about the short game. 152 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:03,195 So then I said short game and then chef. 153 00:09:03,754 --> 00:09:10,095 And then I started as time has gone on, I, you start to see even on the PGA Tour feed now.

154 00:09:10,794 --> 00:09:14,575 Someone will hit a short game shot and they'll be like, that was so saucy. 155 00:09:14,875 --> 00:09:18,830 Or they'll just have like the chef's kiss, the chef's kiss emoji. 156 00:09:18,830 --> 00:09:19,070 Right. 157 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:20,669 And it's like, oh my gosh.

158 00:09:20,669 --> 00:09:25,309 Like, I don't know if it was sort of me that sort of started that or if it's just the short 159 00:09:25,309 --> 00:09:30,589 game and, you know, saucy chef, all that recipe, all that stuff kind of goes together. 160 00:09:30,589 --> 00:09:34,524 But, but yeah, anyway, that's how it all sort of got started. 161 00:09:35,065 --> 00:09:41,705 And literally two days after I had put my Instagram account up, Kevin's real man reached 162 00:09:41,705 --> 00:09:44,445 out to me and said, hey, I see you're doing some short game teaching. 163 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:46,684 I'd love to spend a couple of hours with you.

164 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:50,570 And so my first paid lesson was to the guy ranked 93rd in the world. 165 00:09:51,509 --> 00:09:53,690 And I was like, I better figure this out. 166 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:58,995 And then it's just been, it's literally just been word-of-mouth ever since. 167 00:09:59,075 --> 00:09:59,714 That's incredible.

168 00:09:59,714 --> 00:10:06,034 Let's go back though, because most people can't even dream, or they do dream of winning on the 169 00:10:06,034 --> 00:10:07,014 PGA Tour. 170 00:10:07,554 --> 00:10:15,309 And I gotta ask you because this was a unique win on the PGA Tour, because you mentioned it 171 00:10:15,309 --> 00:10:20,350 before as to how many greens you hit, but I believe you only hit one green in your first 10 172 00:10:20,350 --> 00:10:24,110 holes in that final round and ended up still winning by seven shots. 173 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:25,230 I mean, that's it. 174 00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:28,190 That once again, another great trivia question.

175 00:10:28,190 --> 00:10:33,735 What is the who is the only player to hit 1 green in their final 10 hole or their first 10 176 00:10:33,735 --> 00:10:36,394 holes of the final round and still win by 7 shots? 177 00:10:36,455 --> 00:10:38,235 It's like, tell us about that experience. 178 00:10:41,575 --> 00:10:42,375 Oh, man. 179 00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:47,100 It was, you know, like the first three days, I just felt like my golf swing was just right in 180 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:47,740 the slot.

181 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:49,279 I just, I couldn't miss. 182 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:59,835 My putting was on point, and, you know, I shoot 68, 62, 66, and I've built up a six-shot lead 183 00:10:59,835 --> 00:11:05,294 over second, a nine-shot lead over third, and an 11-shot lead over fourth. 184 00:11:06,075 --> 00:11:08,654 So, like, I was blitzing the field. 185 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:16,700 And then all of a sudden, like the last, like hole and a half on Saturday, I started feeling 186 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:19,600 a little bit tighter through impact.

187 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:26,235 The ball started coming off the clubface a little bit more low heel, which is sort of like 188 00:11:26,235 --> 00:11:28,815 handle raise and hold onto it for me. 189 00:11:29,995 --> 00:11:34,714 And it was just like it just I knew it just didn't quite feel right. 190 00:11:34,714 --> 00:11:35,914 And I was like, uh-oh. 191 00:11:35,914 --> 00:11:37,454 I think I might've lost it.

192 00:11:38,235 --> 00:11:43,200 So, and so I didn't sleep much that night because I was just, like, you know, in my own 193 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,480 head, you know, like, oh, I've got a six-shot lead. 194 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,200 You know, these are the days of Tiger Woods where you're like, Tiger's the only guy that 195 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,340 wins by this much. 196 00:11:52,565 --> 00:11:58,804 And so I've got this huge lead and, you know, all the negative thoughts that could possibly 197 00:11:58,804 --> 00:12:02,565 go through your head go through your head, and you just all the mental work that I'd done, it 198 00:12:02,565 --> 00:12:09,300 was, like, trying so hard to just, like, just keep out the bad thoughts and harness the good 199 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:09,620 thoughts. 200 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:11,059 Like, Happy Gilmore.

201 00:12:11,059 --> 00:12:11,300 Right? 202 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:14,440 It's like, keep out the bad, harness the good. 203 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:16,340 And it was hard. 204 00:12:16,340 --> 00:12:19,059 It was just hard to do, and it was a it was a it was a tough night.

205 00:12:19,059 --> 00:12:21,925 I didn't sleep, hardly at all. 206 00:12:22,225 --> 00:12:26,865 Late tee time the next day, get out to the golf course, and and I was just like, okay. 207 00:12:26,865 --> 00:12:29,585 Just gotta get to the range, and then it'll it'll all be fine. 208 00:12:29,585 --> 00:12:34,779 And then I get to the range, and I didn't hit one shot in the center of the clubface in my 209 00:12:34,779 --> 00:12:35,759 warmup session.

210 00:12:36,220 --> 00:12:39,660 And it was just like, oh man, this might be a rough one. 211 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:43,840 I better buckle up and really be ready to grind. 212 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:47,279 And so I did, I grinded one green in regulation. 213 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:49,679 The first nine holes, I was even par.

214 00:12:50,195 --> 00:12:53,815 Missed the green in regulation on 10, made bogey. 215 00:12:55,714 --> 00:13:03,449 And, yeah, I mean, I really never felt comfortable at all in that entire round until I 216 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:05,629 hit my second shot on 18 onto the green. 217 00:13:07,209 --> 00:13:07,850 That's not we. 218 00:13:08,009 --> 00:13:09,449 It was a brutal, brutal day.

219 00:13:09,449 --> 00:13:14,089 I've talked about this with PGA Tour caddies that sometimes for them, even when their player 220 00:13:14,089 --> 00:13:20,514 has a big lead, that they're most fearful at that point because it's like the thoughts start 221 00:13:20,514 --> 00:13:25,394 creeping in and all of a sudden it's really hard to sleep on a big lead on Saturday night. 222 00:13:25,394 --> 00:13:29,815 So everything that you just said resonates with the audience, resonates with me specifically, 223 00:13:30,299 --> 00:13:35,100 as I'm like, wow, that fits perfectly in line with everything else I've heard from everybody 224 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,720 that's kind of been in that position. 225 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:43,019 But clearly, you've got an insane short game because you missed nine greens in your first 10 226 00:13:43,019 --> 00:13:45,565 holes and still ended up winning by seven. 227 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:51,544 So now we gotta get into the fact of you transitioning into the Short Game Chef and 228 00:13:51,544 --> 00:13:53,065 getting into that side of the business.

229 00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:59,730 You've already talked a little bit about this, as we've been talking about how you kinda had a 230 00:13:59,730 --> 00:14:01,490 buddy set up an Instagram account for you. 231 00:14:01,490 --> 00:14:06,870 You gotta create a cool name, so the recipes, I totally get that with each of the different 232 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:09,110 short game shots and so forth. 233 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:15,184 But, in that transition, I mean, you knew that you had a good short game, but what made you 234 00:14:15,184 --> 00:14:16,485 think, oh, you know what? 235 00:14:16,865 --> 00:14:23,184 I can actually teach this, and what's being taught isn't necessarily the right stuff right 236 00:14:23,184 --> 00:14:23,684 now.

237 00:14:27,139 --> 00:14:27,460 Yeah. 238 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:38,100 So I think I think where I saw a gap in, like, playing a bunch of pro-ams, seeing amateurs 239 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:43,664 struggle, you know, I saw a gap as to, like, well, what is it that they're trying to do and 240 00:14:43,664 --> 00:14:45,684 then what is being taught? 241 00:14:46,544 --> 00:14:49,764 Like, what are they telling me that they're being told what to do? 242 00:14:50,544 --> 00:14:54,350 You know, a lot of them were telling me, like, oh, I'm trying to get the ball in the back of 243 00:14:54,350 --> 00:14:54,990 my stance.

244 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:56,610 I'm trying to get the shaft forward. 245 00:14:56,909 --> 00:14:58,929 I really want to get good ball contact. 246 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:05,870 And they would inevitably either get really good ball contact and it would go over the 247 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:11,924 green, or they would fear that really good ball contact and then they would back out of it and 248 00:15:11,924 --> 00:15:13,144 then they would chunk it. 249 00:15:13,684 --> 00:15:18,804 And then the second that they went into that chunk mode, they went back here and then they 250 00:15:18,804 --> 00:15:22,024 would flip at it, and then all of a sudden it would become a blade.

251 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:28,700 So their really good shots were actually, like, 10 to 15, 20 feet too far. 252 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,120 And then their bad shots, they were still chipping again short of the green or over the 253 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,360 green. 254 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,320 They're chipping back. 255 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:41,245 So I just started looking at this stuff, and I'm like, boy, the information that they're 256 00:15:42,105 --> 00:15:44,664 being given is not necessarily right.

257 00:15:44,664 --> 00:15:46,605 It's not what tour players are doing. 258 00:15:47,625 --> 00:15:53,889 I think that there's a way that I can explain this to people in a simple and digestible way 259 00:15:53,889 --> 00:16:02,210 that can really help them to make their chip shots a little bit easier and not so precise 260 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:03,350 and not so difficult. 261 00:16:04,465 --> 00:16:11,105 Man, that is music to my ears because I'll tell you. 262 00:16:11,105 --> 00:16:15,504 I mean, I'm one of those guys that you just described to where it's like, okay.

263 00:16:15,504 --> 00:16:20,879 I'm either going to have it a little bit heavy and leave it short or I'm blasting it over the 264 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:21,279 green. 265 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:26,740 So, I definitely think I could use your help by all means. 266 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:33,315 But that being said, do you think the short game side of it is kind of a competitive area 267 00:16:33,315 --> 00:16:39,254 where there are certain guys that have this niche of being a short game guru, so to speak? 268 00:16:39,554 --> 00:16:41,554 But how do you differentiate yourself?

269 00:16:41,554 --> 00:16:45,490 Is it from a PGA Tour standpoint that, hey, I played, I won? 270 00:16:45,550 --> 00:16:49,570 Or is it something different that you feel like is your unique approach? 271 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:50,990 Yeah. 272 00:16:50,990 --> 00:16:54,610 I think there's a handful of things that I do really well.

273 00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:56,670 One of them is my pedigree. 274 00:16:56,670 --> 00:16:56,910 Right? 275 00:16:56,910 --> 00:17:02,554 So obviously having played on every sort of mini tour, Korn Ferry Tour, PGA Tour, having a 276 00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:09,994 win on the PGA Tour, you know, that gives me the understanding of what it feels like to play 277 00:17:09,994 --> 00:17:16,210 and sort of choke at the highest level and then what works the best under those high-stress 278 00:17:16,210 --> 00:17:16,710 situations. 279 00:17:17,490 --> 00:17:19,670 So that's one sort of part of it.

280 00:17:20,049 --> 00:17:26,845 I think the other part of it is, you know, I was mentored for about seven years by Paul 281 00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:33,085 Azinger, who, in my opinion, has got one of the best short games when he was playing. 282 00:17:33,085 --> 00:17:34,144 He still does. 283 00:17:34,684 --> 00:17:42,700 And Paul's, you know, from what I can tell and the people that I've talked to, Paul's got a 284 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:49,819 top-three golf IQ of all time, and he's in that upper echelon of people that just think about 285 00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:50,559 things differently. 286 00:17:51,295 --> 00:17:57,055 And so I was able to learn quite a bit from him, and in learning that, I take some of that 287 00:17:57,055 --> 00:18:06,759 and I'm able to pass that along to my clients in a way I communicate to them in a very easily 288 00:18:06,899 --> 00:18:08,039 digestible way.

289 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:14,500 And I think that part of it is hard to quantify because, you know, when you go through my 290 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:20,144 website and you go through the app that we've created, the videos are made in like one and a 291 00:18:20,144 --> 00:18:26,465 half to three and a half minute videos so that you're able to digest that information, take it 292 00:18:26,465 --> 00:18:33,424 in, and then you can move on to the next video or just take down your notes or go practice it 293 00:18:33,424 --> 00:18:34,085 right then. 294 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:42,720 So I think one of the greatest compliments that I feel like I continue to get is that I make it 295 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,440 so simple. 296 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,019 I make it so easy and so simple and so easily digestible for people. 297 00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:55,515 And I think that in a teacher, being a good communicator is extremely valuable.

298 00:18:56,454 --> 00:18:57,275 It is huge. 299 00:18:57,815 --> 00:18:58,055 Yeah. 300 00:18:58,055 --> 00:19:01,195 Cause I could go and say, you know, I could go and say a bunch of big words. 301 00:19:01,335 --> 00:19:01,575 Right.

302 00:19:01,575 --> 00:19:05,419 And tell you like, well, you're done, done, done, done, done, you know, every, you know, 303 00:19:05,419 --> 00:19:10,859 and use all these huge words that were all of a sudden it it you may think I'm smart, but you 304 00:19:10,859 --> 00:19:13,419 haven't necessarily learned anything because 305 00:19:13,419 --> 00:19:14,819 you got no idea what the hell you're saying. 306 00:19:15,019 --> 00:19:16,240 So far over your head. 307 00:19:16,299 --> 00:19:16,700 Yeah. 308 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:17,200 Exactly.

309 00:19:18,105 --> 00:19:18,605 100%. 310 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:24,585 So, you know, the point is, like, yeah, I want to make it so that you can understand what I'm 311 00:19:24,585 --> 00:19:29,464 saying, that we can talk about a handful of different things, and that hopefully one of 312 00:19:29,464 --> 00:19:36,640 those things fits and sticks and that you're able to take that in and be like, that's your 313 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,700 light bulb moment. 314 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:45,984 That's a feel or a thought, or a cue that you can latch onto, and that'll help carry you 315 00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:48,565 through when you're hitting your short game shots. 316 00:19:49,345 --> 00:19:49,505 I 317 00:19:49,505 --> 00:19:49,984 love that.

318 00:19:49,984 --> 00:19:55,025 Now we're gonna get into just some average golfer chipping advice here. 319 00:19:55,025 --> 00:19:55,525 Alright? 320 00:19:55,744 --> 00:20:01,150 So we're gonna test you a little bit and give the audience some tips that hopefully are going 321 00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:02,130 to help them. 322 00:20:02,269 --> 00:20:07,390 But chipping obviously can be one of the most intimidating aspects of the short game for any 323 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:07,890 golfer.

324 00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:13,565 But what's the first piece of advice you'd give to any average golfer who struggles with 325 00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:15,184 consistency around the greens? 326 00:20:17,164 --> 00:20:24,605 Well, I would say that you would want to look at a chip shot more like a bigger putting 327 00:20:24,605 --> 00:20:33,109 stroke than you would want to take it from your normal 7-iron and shrink it down. 328 00:20:33,170 --> 00:20:38,930 I don't necessarily love being like, let me get in a wide stance with my feet, let me push my 329 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:44,954 hands forward, and let me just make a smaller iron swing and hit this chip shot. 330 00:20:45,095 --> 00:20:50,394 Because then your body doesn't move, your feet are too wide, hands are pressed forward.

331 00:20:51,095 --> 00:20:53,819 A lot of things are leading to this ball coming off hot. 332 00:20:53,899 --> 00:21:03,359 I think that a chip shot should be closer in relation to a putting stroke than it would be a 333 00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:06,139 full swing with like a 7-iron. 334 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:12,565 So I would always start with if you don't know where to start chipping and you want to just be 335 00:21:12,565 --> 00:21:18,725 like, let's build a baseline foundation, bring your feet all the way together, get them just 336 00:21:18,725 --> 00:21:21,605 touching, and just start there. 337 00:21:21,605 --> 00:21:27,740 Start moving your body, start moving your torso, start moving your rib cage, start moving 338 00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:29,840 your arms in unison with all that.

339 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:36,880 Don't start using the wrist just yet, but just learn to turn, learn to pivot. 340 00:21:37,214 --> 00:21:39,054 That would be the very first place to start. 341 00:21:39,054 --> 00:21:45,054 And I would start with a lower lofted club like a 50, 52 or a pitching wedge. 342 00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:52,109 Start there if you just start, you know, two to three yards off the green and start to build in 343 00:21:52,109 --> 00:21:58,029 a baseline, that would be my biggest suggestion for someone who's maybe just starting out or 344 00:21:58,029 --> 00:22:04,424 maybe just unsure of what philosophy to sort of go with.

345 00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:11,085 I love that because it is so tough to put everybody into a box and to have general advice 346 00:22:11,464 --> 00:22:12,105 for people. 347 00:22:12,105 --> 00:22:17,340 And that right there was probably, I mean, I'm sitting here going, wow. 348 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:22,460 That's a really good freaking answer because I've heard a lot of different answers to that 349 00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:22,779 question. 350 00:22:22,779 --> 00:22:23,420 I'm like, wow.

351 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:25,200 That's actually really, really good. 352 00:22:25,420 --> 00:22:29,180 So clearly, folks, Parker knows his stuff. 353 00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:30,960 I don't think that is up for debate. 354 00:22:31,484 --> 00:22:35,884 Now I will get a little bit on the personal side of where my member guest over the past 355 00:22:35,884 --> 00:22:36,365 weekend.

356 00:22:36,365 --> 00:22:37,085 I struggled. 357 00:22:37,085 --> 00:22:37,884 I had the yips. 358 00:22:37,884 --> 00:22:38,684 I was chunking. 359 00:22:38,684 --> 00:22:39,585 I was thinning.

360 00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:45,990 There really wasn't any good ones in between, and granted, I'm a 3.5 handicap right now. 361 00:22:46,069 --> 00:22:50,950 When I played and played on the mini tours, like, you said that you were going all around