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Show Notes

Matt Cook and Buttsy kick off with a preview of the Fall Golf Season discussing emerging talent and veteran presence in the series. The branding of the Fall series is compared to the Korn Ferry tour, followed by a comprehensive Procore Championship preview, including Sahith Theegala's chances. They then shift to LIV Golf Chicago, exploring player dynamics, standings, and Anthony Kim's situation. The Swannies Style segment announces a major GIVEAWAY! Lastly the guys cover Bernhard Langer's anchoring controversy, leading to suggestions for new putter anchoring rules. The episode wraps up with a debate on rule 10.1b, Langer's technique, and acknowledgments.

(0:00) Welcome to the Pull Hook Golf podcast
(1:54) Fall Series Preview
(15:29) Branding of the Fall Series and Korn Ferry Tour comparison
(20:10) Comprehensive Procore Championship preview
(29:34) Sahith Theegala's chances at Procore Championship
(30:16) LIV Golf Chicago preview, player dynamics, and speculation
(39:58) LIV Golf Chicago standings and Anthony Kim's situation
(45:35) Swannies Style segment
(54:13) Golf's Anchorman: Bernhard Langer
(57:02) Champions Tour's stance and media's role in anchoring issue
(1:00:13) Clarifying rule 10.1b and Bernhard Langer's putting technique debate
(1:05:59) Recap of Episode Topics and Sponsor Acknowledgement

Show Transcript

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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.

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I'm your host, Matt Cook.

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We've got our co-host back with us this week,
Mister Buttsy himself, the Buttsy on Instagram

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But tonight's episode, we've got the fall
series once again, folks.

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We talked a little bit about it last week.

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We got a little bit more of a preview this
week.

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We've also got the upcoming Fortinet
Championship.

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That is the that was, trying to think of the
technology company's name from last year that

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it was because I got into this whole thing as
to, like, the pronunciation of it.

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But this year, it's Fortinet.

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Pretty easy.

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But that's in Napa Valley, folks.

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So people are gonna be going to the French
Laundry, drinking their wines, having a great

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time.

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We've got the upcoming LIV Golf Chicago, which
seems like it's gonna be a little bit more

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stressful of an event.

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We're gonna talk about that.

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Then we've got the Swannies style segment.

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So, folks, make sure to hang on for us until
the Swannies style segment because we got a

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huge announcement that is going to be the
Swannies style segment.

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So this is gonna be different.

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I'll just give you a little hint right now.

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It might be a giveaway, and there might be some
details around that.

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And there might be a new promo code as well
that gets you even more money off at

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swannies.co.

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So make sure to hang on to there.

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And then we've got Trot Golfer segment.

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I am dedicating this one to you, my man.

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It is the Bernard Langer anchoring.

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Absolutely anchoring segment tonight.

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We're finally gonna dive into this.

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This has been a lifelong mission for Trot
Golfer, with Bernard Langer, and it was kinda

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cool.

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Trot was getting into it with Bob Estes, which
was pretty interesting on the X.

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You gotta put Bernard Langer's face on Will
Ferrell's for the movie cover for Anchorman,

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and, like, put that up for the promo.

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Oh my god.

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That's great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You gotta put That's gonna be the cover
tomorrow.

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Oh, wait a second.

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I see that.

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That's gonna be great.

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Way to go, Buttsy.

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Yeah.

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That's what a start.

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Alright.

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Let's get into the fall series because this
whole thing, I've kind of as I've looked into

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this more and more and more, and I had an
interview that is gonna be coming out with

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Parker McLachlin, short game chef, PGA Tour
winner, so on and so forth.

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But now he's like a short game guru.

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But he was a guy that literally he wasn't one
of these top players.

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Right?

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So he's one of these guys that was hanging on
to his card just trying to make it to another

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year.

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You know, that one win was huge for him.

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But this fall series is kinda like, it's time.

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It's the proving ground for the new talent so
that they can actually get in an event or two

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and potentially win because a lot of the top
guys are not playing in these weeks.

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And, partially, I like the fact that and I'm
gonna give the tour some credit here.

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I like the fact that the tour has stopped the,
carryover season.

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So it's no longer the fall series counts
towards next year.

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Now the fall series is just in and of itself.

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And that part of it, I actually really like now
that this isn't part of the FedEx Cup points

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for next year.

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It does help with the, like, top ten for the
Aon Next.

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So that is if anybody's not familiar with the
Aon Next 10, which that just sounds like a

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video game, that is how people It

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does.

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It's how players get into the Signature Series
events.

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It's like the top ten points winners or points
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points, right, for the FedEx Cup and so forth.

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But they'll gain points this fall.

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That's gonna help them heading into next season
Signature Series events.

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So that's the only thing it's gonna help with.

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Doesn't help towards the FedEx Cup rankings or
anything like that for 2025.

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So I've kind of relooked at this where, you
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like Kevin Streelman, for instance, look at the
Signature Series events very negatively.

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It's not something that's gonna help the
broader PGA Tour.

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It's only going to help the top seventy
players, let's say, or seventy-two is the

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minimum for next year.

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So my question to you, Buttsy, with all of that
being said, what's your take on this little

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fall series?

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Do you like this that it's almost like the new
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PGA Tour rankings?

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This is like their season now.

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You know, I liken it to baseball.

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Right?

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Baseball has three tiers.

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They have well, they have four tiers.

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Yeah.

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Single A, Double A, Triple A.

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And then you get called up and, like and then
and then even after you get called up, you

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gotta you gotta really earn your spot to stay
in the fucking big leagues.

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Yeah.

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You can go back and forth.

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You can get DFA'd as well.

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And I'm not saying I agree with what they're
doing, but if you look at it through that

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optic, I don't know.

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Like, why is that such a big fucking deal?

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You have Korn Ferry, how many guys that
graduate from Korn Ferry Tour every year, this

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would be a good stat to look up, keep their
card the following year?

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What percentage of them?

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Because I know when it used to be when you used
to just go get your PGA Tour card and you were,

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like, on tour when you got through Q School, it
was, like, some stupid percentage, like, 95%

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didn't keep their card.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I wonder what percentage of Korn Ferry
graduates that get a card, keep it the next

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year.

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And if that's a high number, maybe it's not
such a bad idea to then have another

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intermediary spot for them, like, on the PGA
Tour.

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They're on tour, but now you gotta earn your
way into the real big leagues, which is those

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signature series events.

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Makes sense.

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And here's the thing though.

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Like, Harrison Endycott won the Q School last
year.

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Right?

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Now I'm getting away from a little bit from the
Korn Ferry side, but from Q School and couldn't

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get like, couldn't play in a lot of these
events to start off the year.

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So, like, for somebody like him, it really
takes a long time, like, to get to the point to

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where you can play in some of these
tournaments.

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And that's,

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how do you get into the top 70 quickly?

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You gotta win.

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But, I mean, that's the problem with being a
new player on tour now is that all these

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signature series events and a lot of the other
events are kinda stacked in where a lot of the

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players can't get in that are from Q School,
from Korn Ferry, that are graduates and so

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forth.

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So it is tough for these guys to be able to go
and get into a signature series event,

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especially in the beginning of the year.

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So it kinda pushes them now towards those
secondary events, kinda like what you're

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saying, the tiers.

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You know, when there's a signature series event
sometime, there is a corresponding event that's

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happening down, gosh, in the Dominican Republic
or some of these other more exotic areas, I'll

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say, while those tournaments are going on.

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Right?

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That's for the lower, like, the lower-tier
players that are towards the bottom of the

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rankings.

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Now in addition to that, they also have this
fall series that they get to play in and kinda,

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you know, a lot of the top talent isn't playing
in these, so it really becomes more so for

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them.

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And I think the tour could brand it as such.

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Like, I just feel like there's so much
opportunity

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for them to something else.

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Yeah.

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Like, I mean, I just think of WWE.

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It's like WWE Next.

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It's like PGA Tour's future

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Proving Grounds or whatever you wanna call it.

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Like, I don't know.

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Yeah.

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I'm with you 100% on that.

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It just doesn't really feel like it's being
promoted properly or but when I looked at it,

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that's what it is.

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Like, that's what these next weeks are really
going to be about.

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And how many events do we have, like, where
they're trying to basically put their name in

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the sand to get into a signature event?

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Like, how many we got?

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For the fall series, no.

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There's more than just four.

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I mean, it pretty much runs through until
December, basically.

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So you got Procore, that's this week, then
you've got a week off for the Presidents Cup,

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then you've got, let's see, Sanderson Farms.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Sanderson Farms in October, that first week of
October.

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Then we've got that new event in Black Desert
in Utah.

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That thing

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looks

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sick.

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I wanna play golf out there so bad, dude.

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Exactly.

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So that's gonna be interesting, of a golf
tournament.

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You know, Tony Finau's gotta play in that one.

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The Shriners Children's Open, a lot of guys
like to play in that.

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Then you've got Zozo.

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So Zozo is gonna be the first one that isn't
necessarily for those guys.

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So but that first group of tournaments,
Procore, 1, 2, 3, 4.

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I mean, you called it four.

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But then you get down to the Worldwide
Technology Championship.

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That's another one that's gonna be easier to
get into down in Cabo.

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That's at Tiger's course at Diamante.

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Then you got the Butterfield Bermuda
Championship.

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Once again, lot of guys can get into that.

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Then you've got the RSM Classic, with that one
in Sea Island.

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Now I know a lot of guys playing that, but then
you've got the Hero World Challenge.

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So, basically through November, you've got a
lot of opportunities.

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So let's count it up.

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

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So you got 7 tournaments for these

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young guys.

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Is there a bar?

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Like, is there a defined bar?

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If I am in the top 20, like, if I average in
the top 20 for, let's say, I start in all those

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events, am I gonna get into the signature
series?

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Where's the where's the metric at?

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Right?

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Like, that's what I'm saying.

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So, like, it would be cool to know, that there
is kind of a benchmark that you need to hit

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being a lower-tier player to kinda get the
call-up, so to speak, and get into Signature

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events if you play well enough.

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Now I know that could be a win and then, you
know, 31st and then a you know what I mean?

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But the average, where do you need to be
sitting after all those starts to get into

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Signature Series?

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Yeah.

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So that's

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what it should be like.

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I totally agree with you.

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The one thing that I will say in addition to
that is when it comes to, and Trot Golfer

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mentions it here, a lot of veterans are playing
this week.

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Well, a lot of veterans play in this fall
series that are lower in the rankings.

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So I guess it's not technically just young
future talent.

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Right?

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It's also guys that are trying to get their
game back up in the rankings or get themselves

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back up in the rankings that have played well
in the past and are veterans on the PGA Tour

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like a Kevin Streelman, like a Camilo Villegas
last year.

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Because I was looking at some of the winners of
these events.

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Right?

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So

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Yeah.

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One, you've got Sahith Theegala won the
Fortinet Championship last year.

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That's where they're playing this week.

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That was his very first victory.

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So boom.

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Right there.

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Young talent gave him an opportunity to win.

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Then you've got Sanderson Farms.

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Luke List ends up winning that one.

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So a little bit of a veteran, I would say, out
of Luke List.

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Not maybe that that's probably not the best
example.

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Then you've got the Shriners, where Tom Kim
won.

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Okay?

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So that was somebody who's won previously.

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Then I'm gonna skip over the Zozo.

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The Worldwide Technology Championship, Erik van
Rooyen won.

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Then you've got Butterfield Bermuda
Championship, and this is where, once again,

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you kinda see that veteran player, Camilo
Villegas, wins after years of not winning on

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tour.

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So that was a great opportunity for him to
kinda get back into the fold, keep his PGA Tour

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card.

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And then at the RSM Classic, you had rookie
Ludvig Åberg win there.

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So it's kinda this mix between these old guys
as well as these young players.

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So there's gotta be something branding-wise.

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I haven't thought about it enough heading into
this conversation to be like, hey.

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This is what the PGA Tour should be promoting
this as.

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And I don't know.

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I guess I guess I like it.

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I just wonder at the end of the year, like, in
the signature events, are you really enhancing

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the product?

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Like, are those events really now showcasing
the players that are playing their absolute

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best, the best in the world?

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No.

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And that's who should be playing in those.

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Like, is that a good representation of that?

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I don't know.

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You know what?

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That goes back to the branding of this whole
thing, that it's the PGA Tour, but they could

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have it branded as something slightly
different.

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I think fall series doesn't it obviously, it's
seasonality, but as Run PMC says, it's silly

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season, which was Fall.

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Something I called it years back on the
podcast.

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I was like, silly season is upon us, and this
is what this fall series really is.

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And that was when it was carrying over into the
next year for FedEx Cup points, standings, and

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all that.

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That's why we had a Justin Thomas appearance
last year, and now he's, I don't, I believe, is

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he playing in it this week?

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I'm not quite sure.

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I'll have to double check.

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I mean, maybe they were super tricky about it.

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Maybe it's called the fall series, not only
because it's fall, but because it's for the

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players that fell off.

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You know?

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You ever think about that?

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I love it.

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Like, they could call this, like I think what
we labeled this segment kinda as, and I don't

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even know if I mentioned that at the beginning
of introducing this segment, but the proving

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grounds of what you said as well.

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And maybe it's a proving grounds, young versus
old.

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Yeah.

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Some sort of zest to it to let people know that
this is very much these guys battling it out to

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get back to the top or to have their first
chance at being, you know, one of the best.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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And Kyle over at Carpal and Kai's, this isn't
the presidential debate.

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Goddamn right, it's not.

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He said presidential debate.

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This isn't the presidential debate.

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And then Tri Golfer throws in there Sean
O'Hair.

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What a journeyman.

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Like, these are some of the guys that you see
end up getting their careers back on track,

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being able to keep their cards.

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And I just I kinda endear this side to the
season because of the potential that's there.

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I'm with you that it's not the absolute best
teeing it up against each other.

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But is that I mean, we saw it funny.

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And I keep going back to this in my head.

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I'm like, the first part of the year, that
really was the golf year.

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Right?

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Kinda ended in June.

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Now all of a sudden, we're like, alright.

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Now we've got the rest of the guys that are on
tour.

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What do you think?

321
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You seem perplexed.

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I said, with the with the signature series
events, basically, by the time we get to June,

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golf season's pretty much over.

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Yeah.

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For, like, having the absolute top talent going
against each other.

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And I and I guess that's kinda by design, but
then from there, now we head into a season to

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where a lot of the top guys aren't gonna be
playing.

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No.

329
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We got the shitters.

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We got the shitters battling it out in the
coliseum, you know, trying to get back to the

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big leagues.

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That's what it is.

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That's what they're trying to make of it.

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Right?

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Like, there's no other explanation for it.

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No.

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And that's why I think they're doing it a
disservice by calling it the fall series on the

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PGA Tour.

339
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Yeah.

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You you I don't know.

341
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The PGA Tour is so nice.

342
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Right?

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They're not gonna I don't know.

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Everybody's feelings are hurt.

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Hey, shitters.

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Get over here.

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You're playing these events.

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You don't belong with the big boys.

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Here comes the bottom bucket.

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It's the bottom bottom bucket season.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's gotta be a better word for that.

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Yeah.

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We can work on that.

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I mean, proving grounds is pretty good.

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You know, that's what you're doing.

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You're Yeah.

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That is yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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These are the proving grounds.

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Well

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Welcome to PGA Tour proving grounds.

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Yeah.

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Proving grounds event coming up.

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Oh, it's a proving grounds event?

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Okay.

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Cool.

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Who's, who's on the bubble?

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Right?

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Who needs to play well this week to secure a
spot in the signature event?

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Potentially change their lives playing for all.

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And the cash is like, what is a what is a win
in the fall series versus a signature event

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money wise?

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Big difference.

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Big.

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Like yeah.

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They're like I I mean, they're decent purses.

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I mean, the guys are still winning a mil, like,
in a mil and a half depending on the event.

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They're, like, between, I just saw one for $6
million.

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So this one this week is $6 million.

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Then you got $7.6 million at Sanderson Farms.

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Then at Black Desert, you got $7.5 million.

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Shriners is $7 million.

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Zozo is $8.5 million, but that's gonna be more
of your top guys on tour.

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$7.2 million for the Worldwide Technology, $6.9
million for Bermuda, and then it ends with the

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RSM at $8 million.

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So it's not like, that's pretty good purses,
but it's not Yep.

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The Signature Series events.

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You know what I mean?

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Or what do you and what do you win on Korn
Ferry?

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Like, $400,000, something like that?

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Yeah.

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Probably.

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I think around that.

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So so so they've created, you know, a gap
wedge, so to speak, in professional golf.

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Korn Ferry, you made it.

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You're playing with the big boys, but you're
not quite there.

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Like, you're not yeah.

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And you gotta stay you gotta stay up there to
play for all that money.

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I don't know.

403
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I like it.

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00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:34,819
I kinda I kinda like just what we've talked
about, Proving Grounds.

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Yeah.

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Proving Grounds.

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It's the season Proving Grounds.

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Yeah.

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It's the season for guys to prove themselves.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's how it should be bring I
think you could actually build up something big

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around that.

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You could.

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You could create a whole lot of drama.

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You could cover journeymen.

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Oh, that's they're like, great story.

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Guy fell from grace all the way to a rookie
who's 20 years old and flew through fucking

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Korn Ferry, and now he's got a chance to, you
know, rocket his career upward and and play

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with the big boys.

420
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Kyle says one down, one to play.

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Do you press every time?

424
00:20:14,944 --> 00:20:15,424
I don't know.

425
00:20:15,424 --> 00:20:16,704
It depends on how much.

426
00:20:16,704 --> 00:20:21,904
That's why I couldn't be upset with you, but
see, when you pressed and then, good old

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00:20:21,904 --> 00:20:24,224
Brandon decided to make a hole in one.

428
00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:25,845
Talked about that last week.

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Fucker.

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And you didn't even consult me on it.

431
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,359
You just went ahead and pressed, and I was your
teammate on that.

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And I'm just like, yeah.

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It's what I would have done.

434
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So I can't be mad at that.

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It was a front left gap wedge par 3.

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00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,420
Like, absolutely.

437
00:20:42,335 --> 00:20:46,174
I'm definitely gonna have a—I knew I was gonna
have a birdie putt 9 out of 10 times.

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00:20:46,174 --> 00:20:46,654
I'm impressed.

439
00:20:46,654 --> 00:20:48,174
That's the only reason I made the call.

440
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Yep.

441
00:20:48,494 --> 00:20:49,934
One of us is gonna birdie this hole.

442
00:20:49,934 --> 00:20:53,775
Did not see Brandon hooping it.

443
00:20:53,775 --> 00:20:56,069
I was the only one on the tee box that wasn't
excited.

444
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:58,789
Everybody's jumping up and down on the back
just like yeah.

445
00:20:58,789 --> 00:21:00,309
You were just absolutely your mouth.

446
00:21:00,630 --> 00:21:02,230
I feel like your jaw dropped down.

447
00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:06,069
You're like one of those cartoons at that point
where, like, the jaw just drops down to their

448
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feet.

449
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:08,889
You were just like, what the just happened?

450
00:21:09,365 --> 00:21:10,085
Couldn't believe it.

451
00:21:10,085 --> 00:21:13,125
I mean, I'll be happy for you later at dinner,
but not now.

452
00:21:13,125 --> 00:21:13,865
That's ridiculous.

453
00:21:14,164 --> 00:21:14,325
Yeah.

454
00:21:14,325 --> 00:21:15,305
That was ridiculous.

455
00:21:15,845 --> 00:21:20,744
Truck golfer says on the Korn Ferry Tour, it's
still a $1 million better than the Asher Tour.

456
00:21:20,965 --> 00:21:25,579
There's so many options for guys to play, but
once you get to the mini tours, that is just

457
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little legalized gambling on the golf course
between pros.

458
00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:30,880
Yeah.

459
00:21:31,259 --> 00:21:35,680
Golfer HD says, what if Scottie showed up in
disguise like an undercover boss?

460
00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:37,200
That'd be kinda cool.

461
00:21:37,804 --> 00:21:40,684
How's Scottie gonna fucking show up in
disguise?

462
00:21:40,684 --> 00:21:41,884
He's gonna make one golf swing.

463
00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:44,625
His back foot's gonna slip, and everybody's
gonna know it's him.

464
00:21:45,724 --> 00:21:47,025
Not like Mac O'Grady.

465
00:21:47,484 --> 00:21:51,105
Do you ever hear the stories of Mac O'Grady and
how crazy that dude was?

466
00:21:51,724 --> 00:21:52,224
No.

467
00:21:52,365 --> 00:22:00,200
So as the fables go, Mac O'Grady was this
incredible player, played right-handed and

468
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,119
Fuck.

469
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,519
Yeah.

470
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Yeah.

471
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And he was just as good left-handed as he was
right-handed.

472
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He got banned for something, so then he changed
his name and showed up and played left-handed.

473
00:22:14,194 --> 00:22:15,335
So, okay.

474
00:22:15,474 --> 00:22:18,754
Little story time about Mac O'Grady, buddy.

475
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:20,615
You talk to anybody about Mac O'Grady?

476
00:22:20,754 --> 00:22:22,034
Everybody's like the same thing.

477
00:22:22,034 --> 00:22:23,339
That guy was fucking nuts.

478
00:22:23,419 --> 00:22:25,179
But that guy knew the golf swing.

479
00:22:25,179 --> 00:22:25,659
Yeah.

480
00:22:25,659 --> 00:22:26,539
Pretty cool dude.

481
00:22:26,539 --> 00:22:29,179
Played a lot overseas as well.

482
00:22:29,179 --> 00:22:29,500
Alright.

483
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:32,140
Let's keep it moving, keep it grooving here.

484
00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:38,079
Let's move into the next part of this, which is
the Fortinet Championship preview.

485
00:22:38,565 --> 00:22:42,825
So the Fortinet Championship, once again, this
is taking place in Napa Valley.

486
00:22:43,125 --> 00:22:48,804
So some of these guys that are showing up,
they're not showing up because this is the best

487
00:22:48,804 --> 00:22:50,105
golf course in the world.

488
00:22:50,964 --> 00:22:56,009
They're not showing up because it's the best
tournament with the best purse in the world.

489
00:22:56,009 --> 00:22:57,849
They're showing up because it's fucking Napa
Valley.

490
00:22:57,849 --> 00:23:01,150
And they're like, wife, you deserve a little
bit of wine.

491
00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:03,049
You deserve some French Laundry.

492
00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:07,945
French Laundry, that restaurant's gonna be
packed this week with bougie tour pros.

493
00:23:08,725 --> 00:23:13,445
So, yeah, that's what this tournament's all
about, and I kinda love the bougieness to it

494
00:23:13,445 --> 00:23:17,845
because they don't really push for crowds that
much out there.

495
00:23:17,845 --> 00:23:18,164
No.

496
00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:23,320
It's just like, come enjoy and enjoy the
bougieness that is Napa Valley.

497
00:23:23,539 --> 00:23:24,259
I love Napa.

498
00:23:24,259 --> 00:23:25,720
You ever been to Napa Valley?

499
00:23:27,059 --> 00:23:28,759
Outside my pay grade, friend.

500
00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:29,640
Never been.

501
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:30,579
It's a great time.

502
00:23:30,579 --> 00:23:30,900
Yeah.

503
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:36,795
You get in, I've heard of you get a driver that
you rent the car from the airport, and then you

504
00:23:36,795 --> 00:23:41,214
have to, like, sign them as an additional
driver, but they drive you to every winery.

505
00:23:42,474 --> 00:23:46,075
So you just get absolutely hammered, and then
they're driving the car for you.

506
00:23:46,075 --> 00:23:47,595
It's a whole service there in Napa.

507
00:23:47,595 --> 00:23:48,154
It's awesome.

508
00:23:48,154 --> 00:23:48,554
Wow.

509
00:23:48,554 --> 00:23:48,990
Yeah.

510
00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:49,429
It's pretty cool.

511
00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:51,250
Party bus, but, like, fancy.

512
00:23:51,549 --> 00:23:52,049
Basically.

513
00:23:52,429 --> 00:23:53,650
It pretty much is.

514
00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:57,869
Now, as we talk about the tournament, we do
have some players playing in this.

515
00:23:57,869 --> 00:23:58,369
Alright?

516
00:23:58,429 --> 00:24:04,125
So I don't want everybody to think that this is
just rookies on tour, guys who are veterans

517
00:24:04,184 --> 00:24:07,085
that haven't played good over the past year or
two.

518
00:24:07,704 --> 00:24:11,085
We do have Sahith Theegala as the defending
champion.

519
00:24:11,304 --> 00:24:12,845
He had to come back, obviously.

520
00:24:13,544 --> 00:24:18,365
You got Max Homa, who is the 2022 champion.

521
00:24:18,769 --> 00:24:19,089
Alright?

522
00:24:19,089 --> 00:24:19,909
Max Homa.

523
00:24:20,529 --> 00:24:22,210
He always plays well out there.

524
00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,629
That course just kinda seems to fit Max.

525
00:24:24,929 --> 00:24:27,909
Corey Conners, Wyndham Clark, Maverick McNeely.

526
00:24:28,849 --> 00:24:29,009
Oh, I

527
00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:29,909
like that.

528
00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:31,369
Watch out for Maverick McNeely.

529
00:24:31,889 --> 00:24:37,085
I didn't realize up until doing some research
around this one that he's playing on a medical

530
00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:37,644
exemption.

531
00:24:38,184 --> 00:24:43,065
So that's why we haven't really seen a whole
lot from Maverick, but he's had a pretty good

532
00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:44,045
year so far.

533
00:24:44,105 --> 00:24:45,184
So watch out for him.

534
00:24:45,305 --> 00:24:46,204
Golf his ball.

535
00:24:46,265 --> 00:24:48,444
Lucas Glover is playing.

536
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200
I know you always have comments about Lucas
Glover.

537
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,460
What is your recommendation for Lucas to watch
out for this week?

538
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,880
What do you mean?

539
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,720
Like, what he's gonna do?

540
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,039
No.

541
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:00,880
Just, like, who should he watch out for?

542
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,924
Who could potentially yell at him and tell him
he's a terrible golfer?

543
00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:07,464
Yeah.

544
00:25:07,464 --> 00:25:13,304
His wife might fly out of the crowd with a
fucking ice skate screaming about Tonya Harding

545
00:25:13,304 --> 00:25:14,744
and just beat him in the legs.

546
00:25:14,744 --> 00:25:15,644
Like, who knows?

547
00:25:17,009 --> 00:25:18,470
He might get his legs beat.

548
00:25:19,009 --> 00:25:19,970
Wyndham by 8.

549
00:25:19,970 --> 00:25:20,789
There he is.

550
00:25:21,089 --> 00:25:22,289
He loves Wyndham.

551
00:25:22,289 --> 00:25:23,809
Trot's on my team now.

552
00:25:23,809 --> 00:25:24,049
No.

553
00:25:24,369 --> 00:25:31,775
Trot was not a big Wyndham guy until I kinda
convinced him that Wyndham is playing some good

554
00:25:31,775 --> 00:25:33,695
golf, and I think he's gonna be

555
00:25:33,695 --> 00:25:34,355
a good guy.

556
00:25:34,894 --> 00:25:36,575
You guys are terrible.

557
00:25:36,575 --> 00:25:39,394
Probably only stay at Wyndham Hotels too,
probably.

558
00:25:39,775 --> 00:25:40,515
Of course.

559
00:25:40,575 --> 00:25:42,674
I mean, where else would you stay?

560
00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:43,590
Yeah.

561
00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:44,869
He's got his name.

562
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:46,390
I'd fucking stay in there.

563
00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:51,330
So let's go over just some notable players that
are in the field.

564
00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:53,570
We've went over Lucas Glover.

565
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:55,090
Keith Mitchell is playing as well.

566
00:25:55,090 --> 00:25:56,505
Good old Cashmere Keith.

567
00:25:56,744 --> 00:25:58,125
Seems like a perfect fit.

568
00:25:58,184 --> 00:26:01,565
Cashmere sweaters, Napa Valley, wineries.

569
00:26:02,424 --> 00:26:05,884
You've got good old French Laundry for the
restaurant.

570
00:26:05,944 --> 00:26:07,305
Don't you think, like, Keith Mitchell.

571
00:26:07,305 --> 00:26:08,605
This just fits Keith.

572
00:26:08,744 --> 00:26:09,244
Yeah.

573
00:26:09,625 --> 00:26:10,125
Yeah.

574
00:26:10,184 --> 00:26:11,224
He's at home there.

575
00:26:11,224 --> 00:26:11,670
Yeah.

576
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:14,809
I feel like Keith is, like, one of the most
comfortable guys on tour.

577
00:26:14,869 --> 00:26:15,369
Wow.

578
00:26:15,509 --> 00:26:16,570
That was aggressive.

579
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:17,750
That was a push.

580
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:21,470
I can't hear it because I got noise canceling
on, but

581
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:22,390
past

582
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:23,769
at the same time.

583
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:26,090
You could die if you do that, I heard.

584
00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:28,494
You should probably look that up on ChatGPT.

585
00:26:28,494 --> 00:26:29,235
Just like

586
00:26:29,295 --> 00:26:30,654
like 10x relief.

587
00:26:30,654 --> 00:26:31,055
Sorry.

588
00:26:31,055 --> 00:26:31,375
Go on.

589
00:26:31,375 --> 00:26:33,775
We've got Patrick Rodgers playing as well.

590
00:26:33,775 --> 00:26:35,315
So let's go over the playing odds.

591
00:26:35,775 --> 00:26:38,095
Here's the betting odds for the top player.

592
00:26:38,095 --> 00:26:42,339
So Sahith Theegala is plus 1200 matched with
Wyndham Clark.

593
00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:42,820
Okay.

594
00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:45,400
Those are your top two this week.

595
00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:47,480
We got Corey Conners at plus 1400.

596
00:26:48,339 --> 00:26:51,079
Max Homa at plus 2000.

597
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,000
Min Woo Lee at plus 2200.

598
00:26:53,664 --> 00:26:55,924
Maverick McNealy is also at plus 2200.

599
00:26:56,305 --> 00:26:59,125
Keith Mitchell's plus 3000, and J.J.

600
00:26:59,265 --> 00:27:01,285
Spaun at plus 4000.

601
00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:04,964
Who you like this week?

602
00:27:08,299 --> 00:27:09,519
You gotta go Homa.

603
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,119
Gotta go Homa.

604
00:27:12,059 --> 00:27:13,099
I'm a big J.J.

605
00:27:13,099 --> 00:27:21,019
Spaun fan, and I think only because I pulled
this card out of, like, 10000 packs of golf

606
00:27:21,019 --> 00:27:21,519
cards.

607
00:27:21,784 --> 00:27:23,964
Got a really cool one of Maverick McNealy.

608
00:27:24,345 --> 00:27:25,644
Oh, nice.

609
00:27:26,265 --> 00:27:26,765
Yeah.

610
00:27:26,825 --> 00:27:29,005
Nate Lashley?

611
00:27:29,704 --> 00:27:30,204
Yeah.

612
00:27:30,825 --> 00:27:33,005
And then wingding sleeper?

613
00:27:33,065 --> 00:27:34,924
I don't know what that means.

614
00:27:36,849 --> 00:27:37,670
Not a clue.

615
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:41,730
Wesley Bryan needs some redemption after
losing.

616
00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:42,690
I felt bad for him.

617
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,069
I thought he played well in that creator's
classic.

618
00:27:46,849 --> 00:27:49,964
Little weird that a PGA Tour guy, though, was
playing in that.

619
00:27:50,444 --> 00:27:51,825
Shipley top five.

620
00:27:53,164 --> 00:27:54,704
Oh, ASU superstar.

621
00:27:54,845 --> 00:27:55,664
That's right.

622
00:27:56,444 --> 00:27:56,765
No.

623
00:27:56,765 --> 00:27:58,384
I know who you're talking about, Kyle.

624
00:27:58,845 --> 00:27:59,904
Wingding, dude.

625
00:27:59,964 --> 00:28:02,625
Wing like ding, dude.

626
00:28:02,765 --> 00:28:03,180
Yep.

627
00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:04,080
Wing.

628
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:04,380
Wing.

629
00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:04,880
Ding.

630
00:28:05,259 --> 00:28:06,960
Everybody's doing the wing ding.

631
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:08,559
Wing ding.

632
00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:12,240
Wing ding.

633
00:28:13,340 --> 00:28:15,259
I like Maverick McNealy this week.

634
00:28:15,259 --> 00:28:20,174
I'm with you on that one, but I am not gonna go
Wyndham Clark this week.

635
00:28:20,174 --> 00:28:24,754
I don't think that his game really fits this
very tight golf course.

636
00:28:25,694 --> 00:28:29,315
I do like gosh.

637
00:28:30,690 --> 00:28:32,710
I think Sahith is gonna do it again.

638
00:28:34,049 --> 00:28:35,009
Sahith to get

639
00:28:35,329 --> 00:28:40,769
I think he goes back to back because Sahith
played really well coming down the stretch of

640
00:28:40,769 --> 00:28:43,509
the FedEx Cup to end his year.

641
00:28:43,654 --> 00:28:45,414
I wonder if he's tired, though.

642
00:28:45,414 --> 00:28:46,154
Let's see.

643
00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:48,394
But I do like Sahith.

644
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:49,974
So that's who I'm going.

645
00:28:50,054 --> 00:28:51,575
One of my favorite players, man.

646
00:28:51,575 --> 00:28:53,335
And and I don't even know why.

647
00:28:53,335 --> 00:28:54,294
I just I think I just

648
00:28:54,454 --> 00:28:56,234
He's got a swagger to him, man.

649
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:56,759
Yeah.

650
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:57,960
I just like the guy.

651
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,279
Yeah.

652
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:02,539
He like, the way he walks, the way he just is,
like, calm and nonchalant.

653
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,099
He kinda, like, bops as he goes, and he's kinda
long and dangly.

654
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:08,680
Sounds like something

655
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,875
He looks like a dude that would, like, not just
walk past yet.

656
00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:14,894
He'd be like, what's up, man?

657
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:15,835
You know what I mean?

658
00:29:15,835 --> 00:29:16,394
I don't know.

659
00:29:16,394 --> 00:29:17,115
Chill, dude.

660
00:29:17,115 --> 00:29:17,835
Chill, dude.

661
00:29:17,835 --> 00:29:18,234
Chill.

662
00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:22,714
If I'm not mistaken, he went to Pepperdine, if
I'm not mistaken, which, if you know

663
00:29:22,714 --> 00:29:24,474
Pepperdine, that is, right.

664
00:29:24,474 --> 00:29:25,769
That's Malibu, baby.

665
00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:27,470
So you gotta be chill.

666
00:29:27,529 --> 00:29:28,650
I might be wrong on that.

667
00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:32,589
For whatever reason, that came to me, and I'm
not sure it's correct.

668
00:29:34,089 --> 00:29:35,630
So, yeah, we got that this week.

669
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:38,190
So watch out for Napa Valley.

670
00:29:38,664 --> 00:29:38,984
Alright.

671
00:29:38,984 --> 00:29:44,845
Let's get into LIV Golf Chicago because the
2024 LIV Golf Chicago.

672
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,684
This is a very important event on the LIV Golf
side.

673
00:29:49,144 --> 00:29:55,619
And, certainly, certainly, there are going to
be some things that are gonna be changing on

674
00:29:55,619 --> 00:30:00,500
LIV Golf heading into next year because it's
just set up that way.

675
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,519
This is really interesting to me.

676
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:05,744
So this is happening, in Chicago.

677
00:30:07,085 --> 00:30:08,704
Obviously, LIV Golf Chicago.

678
00:30:09,164 --> 00:30:16,285
But I wanna talk about just a couple of the key
topics for this particular event.

679
00:30:16,285 --> 00:30:21,470
First of all, the individual player title is up
for grabs.

680
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:21,970
K?

681
00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:27,889
Really between Jon Rahm and then also Joaquin
Niemann.

682
00:30:28,109 --> 00:30:32,990
So Rahm's behind Niemann and basically has
already said he's like, I know Niemann's gonna

683
00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:38,154
be up there in, like, the top ten because of
how well he's been playing, so I need to go out

684
00:30:38,154 --> 00:30:43,534
and win in order to get enough points in order
to hopefully take over.

685
00:30:44,075 --> 00:30:47,994
So Rahm knows he's gotta go in and win this
golf tournament in order to have a chance of

686
00:30:47,994 --> 00:30:50,769
winning the individual player race.

687
00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:54,829
Who do you think ends up taking the individual
player?

688
00:30:54,829 --> 00:30:56,049
Is it Rahm or is it Niemann?

689
00:30:56,909 --> 00:30:57,409
Rahm.

690
00:30:58,349 --> 00:30:59,169
Love that.

691
00:30:59,309 --> 00:31:00,130
Love that.

692
00:31:00,190 --> 00:31:01,950
I can't disagree with that whatsoever.

693
00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:07,755
I think Rahm has a really good chance in
Chicago to win that event and take the

694
00:31:07,755 --> 00:31:08,815
individual title.

695
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:14,315
Wouldn't that be awesome for him to finally
kinda not break through because he broke

696
00:31:14,315 --> 00:31:15,375
through in the UK?

697
00:31:15,595 --> 00:31:22,690
But if he broke through on LIV, having this
kinda weird year where he didn't really get—he

698
00:31:22,690 --> 00:31:27,490
kinda lost favor with a lot of fans, not by
making the move over to LIV, but because he

699
00:31:27,490 --> 00:31:32,549
kinda became irrelevant, just was putting in
top fives in almost every event.

700
00:31:33,009 --> 00:31:36,134
And everybody, including us, was saying that,
hey.

701
00:31:36,275 --> 00:31:41,394
You know, Jon Rahm really hasn't had a great
year on LIV Golf because we expected him to win

702
00:31:41,394 --> 00:31:42,295
multiple times.

703
00:31:42,355 --> 00:31:46,914
But now he's got a chance to win, take the
individual title, and then all of a sudden, we

704
00:31:46,914 --> 00:31:49,575
can't really have that conversation anymore,
can we?

705
00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:50,789
No.

706
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:58,390
And I'm just gonna say, because of the gravity
of this event, that's gonna get Jon Rahm's

707
00:31:58,390 --> 00:31:59,190
loins going.

708
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:59,509
You know?

709
00:31:59,509 --> 00:32:00,390
That's gonna get—Oh,

710
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:00,950
loins is

711
00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:01,769
a brand word.

712
00:32:02,069 --> 00:32:02,309
Yeah.

713
00:32:02,309 --> 00:32:03,829
It's gonna juice up his loins.

714
00:32:03,829 --> 00:32:04,390
You know?

715
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:04,890
Yeah.

716
00:32:06,684 --> 00:32:08,445
I had a rib eye before the show.

717
00:32:08,445 --> 00:32:11,585
I'm, like, salivating over it right now.

718
00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:13,025
Jon Rahm's loins?

719
00:32:13,404 --> 00:32:15,005
It sounds weird when you say it that way.

720
00:32:15,005 --> 00:32:17,664
When you put it into that context, very
strange.

721
00:32:17,884 --> 00:32:18,384
Yeah.

722
00:32:18,845 --> 00:32:21,424
Not, not really feeling that.

723
00:32:21,910 --> 00:32:22,390
Yeah.

724
00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:23,609
I was taking a bite.

725
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:24,570
Just general.

726
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:26,250
Okay.

727
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:32,970
So what's interesting about this in addition
in, to me, that's not even the most interesting

728
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,289
topic going into LIV Golf Chicago.

729
00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:37,455
We've got the top 24 lock zone.

730
00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:37,955
Okay?

731
00:32:38,734 --> 00:32:41,234
I'm trying so hard to be serious about this.

732
00:32:42,255 --> 00:32:44,275
It's the top 24 lock zone.

733
00:32:44,894 --> 00:32:51,029
Now the top 24, they are secure for next year,
so nothing can happen to them.

734
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:53,609
They're guaranteed to be on LIV Golf.

735
00:32:53,669 --> 00:33:00,230
And this is one of the changes that they've
made, to where now you have an open zone and

736
00:33:00,230 --> 00:33:01,529
you have a drop zone.

737
00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:06,884
So the open zone and I didn't realize this
until, like, really digging into this, that the

738
00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:09,464
open zone is your 25th player through 48th.

739
00:33:10,484 --> 00:33:14,585
They can be released or traded by the teams.

740
00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:17,839
Okay.

741
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,880
You don't find that interesting?

742
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,200
No.

743
00:33:23,259 --> 00:33:24,940
So even if you're, like, safe I

744
00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:25,700
gotta do something.

745
00:33:26,059 --> 00:33:30,079
Even if you're safe, you're in this open zone,
you could be released.

746
00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:33,914
So let's say that, like, Brooks Koepka is like,
hey, Graeme McDowell.

747
00:33:34,694 --> 00:33:40,454
You even though you're in this, like, open
zone, I don't like that you got popped for,

748
00:33:40,774 --> 00:33:41,674
doing some dinghies.

749
00:33:41,815 --> 00:33:42,474
You know?

750
00:33:42,615 --> 00:33:44,234
So you're gone.

751
00:33:44,534 --> 00:33:45,914
He can release him.

752
00:33:47,890 --> 00:33:50,130
If not, if he's in the top 24 though.

753
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:50,369
Right?

754
00:33:50,369 --> 00:33:51,250
Outside of that

755
00:33:51,490 --> 00:33:57,990
Out the 25th through 48th are the players that
can be released or they can be traded.

756
00:33:58,795 --> 00:34:00,894
I mean, I don't think that's crazy interesting.

757
00:34:00,955 --> 00:34:03,515
Like, you gotta have something like that.

758
00:34:03,515 --> 00:34:09,034
The field is only so big in LIV Golf, so you
have to have some benchmark where if you're

759
00:34:09,034 --> 00:34:11,034
above it, you know, you're not safe.

760
00:34:11,034 --> 00:34:17,579
I mean, guys have to have the, what's the word
I'm looking for, incentive to get to the top

761
00:34:17,579 --> 00:34:18,059
24.

762
00:34:18,059 --> 00:34:21,820
There's all the fields are only so big, so they
have to have something to play for before they

763
00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:23,340
get the boot or could get the boot.

764
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:23,659
Right?

765
00:34:23,659 --> 00:34:23,820
Like

766
00:34:24,059 --> 00:34:24,380
Yeah.

767
00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:30,815
One compliment that I will say for LIV Golf is,
like, this happens on the PGA Tour where guys

768
00:34:30,815 --> 00:34:35,855
lose their card and everything, but it is not
built in this way to where, like, this is a top

769
00:34:35,855 --> 00:34:41,170
storyline of who's gonna end up in the open
zone, who's guaranteed for next year, who's

770
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:47,750
gonna be in the drop zone that now has to go
try to requalify to get back on to LIV.

771
00:34:47,809 --> 00:34:55,734
So the drop zone are the guys who are all
banished from LIV Golf and have to go play in

772
00:34:55,734 --> 00:35:01,835
that, like, Q School setup to where now they've
gotta play their way back onto LIV Golf.

773
00:35:02,695 --> 00:35:04,534
And that is 49th and lower.

774
00:35:04,534 --> 00:35:08,054
Now your buddy, Pat Perez, he's 48th right now.

775
00:35:08,054 --> 00:35:09,594
So he's right on the bubble.

776
00:35:09,655 --> 00:35:12,510
However, I wanna see some controversy this
year.

777
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:13,869
Like, I'm not saying this.

778
00:35:13,869 --> 00:35:15,710
I'm not putting this out there for Pat.

779
00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:16,590
I'm just saying this.

780
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:21,650
It's like, what if Dustin Johnson was just he
had enough of Pat on his team?

781
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:23,070
Not gonna happen.

782
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:26,530
That's why I'll bring up the example because
Pat and DJ are buddies.

783
00:35:26,885 --> 00:35:29,684
But let's say that he was just like, Pat,
you're just not cutting it, man.

784
00:35:29,684 --> 00:35:32,664
I think somebody else is gonna be better, and
he releases him.

785
00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:37,844
There's a chance that Pat isn't on LIV Golf
next year because he was in the open zone even

786
00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:40,425
though he made it out of the drop zone.

787
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:41,539
Wow.

788
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:44,179
That's a storyline to me.

789
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,199
It is.

790
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,440
And, yeah.

791
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,840
I mean, play better, I guess, at the end of the
day.

792
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,840
That's always that's always the right answer.

793
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Right?

794
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,539
Just play better.

795
00:35:54,155 --> 00:35:54,514
Play better.

796
00:35:54,714 --> 00:36:00,795
In years past, they have not allowed if you
were in the drop zone as a captain, you were

797
00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:01,295
safe.

798
00:36:03,355 --> 00:36:09,780
This year, the way Greg Norman has stated this
is that the captains are not safe.

799
00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:14,739
And he talked about Bubba Watson specifically
because Bubba Watson's sitting at 52nd place

800
00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:15,400
right now.

801
00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:16,179
Yeah.

802
00:36:16,179 --> 00:36:19,400
So he's most likely gone unless he has a good
week.

803
00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:25,864
Now you have to basically play into the top 10
in order to get enough points to move yourself

804
00:36:26,005 --> 00:36:26,505
to

805
00:36:26,644 --> 00:36:27,465
out of that.

806
00:36:28,005 --> 00:36:28,244
Yeah.

807
00:36:28,244 --> 00:36:28,485
Yeah.

808
00:36:28,485 --> 00:36:28,985
Yeah.

809
00:36:29,125 --> 00:36:30,905
So it's literally one good week.

810
00:36:31,284 --> 00:36:32,885
I want some drama, man.

811
00:36:32,885 --> 00:36:35,284
I wanna be able to, like, report on this.

812
00:36:35,284 --> 00:36:39,769
Wouldn't it be awesome if all of a sudden
Matthew Wolff gets dropped by Bubba Watson, and

813
00:36:39,769 --> 00:36:44,190
all of a sudden he's all butthurt over it
because he's like, I was in the open zone.

814
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:48,429
You didn't even make it, and yet you're going
to release me.

815
00:36:49,050 --> 00:36:49,449
Right.

816
00:36:49,449 --> 00:36:52,589
And it's like and it then he doesn't get picked
up by another team.

817
00:36:53,015 --> 00:36:58,454
And then all of a sudden, it becomes this big
drama out there, and it's like, shoot, man.

818
00:36:58,454 --> 00:37:00,474
This, this could be juicy.

819
00:37:00,535 --> 00:37:06,695
We get Matthew Wolff to come on the show, start
talking some shit about his experience on LIV

820
00:37:06,695 --> 00:37:07,015
Golf.

821
00:37:07,015 --> 00:37:09,910
Like, it just this could lead to so many
things.

822
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:11,369
I think this would be a blast.

823
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:12,230
You're not lying.

824
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:17,210
You got lifelong friendships in some cases
that, could be no more.

825
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:20,474
But we're also talking about a shitload of
money here.

826
00:37:20,715 --> 00:37:22,974
Like, this isn't just friendships.

827
00:37:23,114 --> 00:37:24,555
This is like alright.

828
00:37:24,555 --> 00:37:25,535
This is livelihoods.

829
00:37:26,075 --> 00:37:30,635
And, so is your potential $38,000,000 you would
make next year.

830
00:37:30,635 --> 00:37:31,695
Have a nice day.

831
00:37:31,994 --> 00:37:36,000
And by the way, there's no there's nowhere else
for you to play either.

832
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:36,800
Yeah.

833
00:37:37,099 --> 00:37:39,119
You're banned from everything else.

834
00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:40,079
See you.

835
00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:41,659
It's the only place you could play.

836
00:37:41,659 --> 00:37:42,780
You're not going to alright.

837
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:47,684
I'll just go, you know, Monday qualify and play
my events on the PGA at noon.

838
00:37:47,824 --> 00:37:53,184
Now do you actually think anything would happen
for anybody in the open zone other than getting

839
00:37:53,184 --> 00:37:54,224
traded to another team?

840
00:37:54,224 --> 00:37:56,164
Think anybody's gonna get released?

841
00:37:57,344 --> 00:37:57,844
Yeah.

842
00:37:58,329 --> 00:37:58,909
You do?

843
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:03,210
I think there's gonna be at least one or two
guys that get real yeah.

844
00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:04,730
I don't see it.

845
00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:13,684
I see this as they have to do this in order to
rework their system to get, oh, like, to get

846
00:38:13,684 --> 00:38:18,425
official world golf ranking points at some
point because they had to do a relegation.

847
00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:24,405
They had to do all these different aspects
because they have to allow people to play their

848
00:38:24,405 --> 00:38:26,905
way into LIV Golf and so forth.

849
00:38:26,965 --> 00:38:34,039
I just I think it is more so from a marketing
aspect with the open zone than anything because

850
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,579
they needed some type of platform to be able to
trade players.

851
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:38,679
Yeah.

852
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:42,199
I mean, there's that, but I do think you're
gonna see one or two.

853
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,105
I would prophesize that.

854
00:38:44,324 --> 00:38:44,804
And I

855
00:38:44,804 --> 00:38:45,605
would love that.

856
00:38:45,605 --> 00:38:46,905
That would be so dramatic.

857
00:38:47,445 --> 00:38:52,965
And maybe a guy gets brought in that you didn't
even know was in talks with LIV Golf that comes

858
00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:57,605
right off the PGA Tour and ends up on a team,
and everybody's like, holy shit.

859
00:38:57,605 --> 00:38:58,344
Like, what?

860
00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:02,720
Or they grab somebody straight out of college
like Jon Rahm did with Caleb Surratt.

861
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:03,500
Yeah.

862
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:04,640
You could do that.

863
00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:09,019
And I think that would spice it up more than
not doing that.

864
00:39:09,019 --> 00:39:11,579
That would be the biggest move they could ever
make from

865
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:12,059
My god.

866
00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:16,375
Could you imagine if all of a sudden it's like,
hey, Ian Poulter.

867
00:39:18,514 --> 00:39:21,734
I'm dropping you because Poulter's 46 right
now.

868
00:39:21,795 --> 00:39:25,315
I'm dropping you, and I'm picking and I'm so
I'm just releasing you.

869
00:39:25,315 --> 00:39:31,469
Even though you made it past the drop zone, I'm
releasing you, and I'm picking up this young

870
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:36,929
kid straight out of college who's a stud, and
I'm bringing him in on my team.

871
00:39:37,309 --> 00:39:38,449
Makes a lot of sense.

872
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:42,510
That would be more entertaining for the fans
too.

873
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:42,829
Oh, god.

874
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:43,890
It would be awesome.

875
00:39:44,105 --> 00:39:48,684
Could you imagine our podcast episode after
news like that would break?

876
00:39:49,385 --> 00:39:49,885
Oh.

877
00:39:50,264 --> 00:39:51,144
Oh my god.

878
00:39:51,144 --> 00:39:51,964
And the memes.

879
00:39:52,664 --> 00:39:56,525
The amount of memes that would get posted is
just somebody just looking so sad.

880
00:39:56,664 --> 00:39:57,644
Oh my god.

881
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:58,469
Yeah.

882
00:39:58,469 --> 00:40:01,610
If LIV releases too many, can they actually
refill it?

883
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:10,875
So from what I understand, there is a huge
backlog of current PGA Tour players that would

884
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:16,255
love the opportunity to this day to be invited
to play on the LIV tour.

885
00:40:16,554 --> 00:40:21,515
So I attest to that because I've spoken with
guys who are on the PGA Tour that are low on

886
00:40:21,515 --> 00:40:26,920
the rankings that would have accepted a LIV
Golf offer in a heartbeat.

887
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:32,659
So to me, I think they have plenty of options
when it comes to that.

888
00:40:32,659 --> 00:40:37,094
I think what's more interesting, though, than
picking up veteran guys off of the PGA Tour

889
00:40:37,094 --> 00:40:41,335
that are towards the bottom of the rankings,
about to lose their card or technically just

890
00:40:41,335 --> 00:40:45,355
have, like, conditional status, I think what's
more interesting are the college kids.

891
00:40:45,815 --> 00:40:46,135
Yeah.

892
00:40:46,135 --> 00:40:49,799
Because these college kids, how much money are
you gonna give them?

893
00:40:49,799 --> 00:40:56,760
Like, they picked up Caleb Surratt this year
and gave him a couple million dollars because

894
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,760
he doesn't really have any stock yet.

895
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,079
You know?

896
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,260
It's kinda like the NBA draft.

897
00:41:01,525 --> 00:41:02,565
It's like the draft.

898
00:41:02,565 --> 00:41:03,445
It's like baseball.

899
00:41:03,445 --> 00:41:09,684
Like, you got a new prospect, right, that
nobody's really unless you're following golf

900
00:41:09,684 --> 00:41:14,085
rankings and where everybody's at in college
and what do we got here?

901
00:41:14,085 --> 00:41:15,364
Poulter's clothing line?

902
00:41:15,364 --> 00:41:17,190
Oh, we don't need to talk about that.

903
00:41:18,869 --> 00:41:19,089
It's logo.

904
00:41:19,089 --> 00:41:19,670
It's a lot

905
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:19,989
of P.

906
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:20,650
Giannis.

907
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:21,549
Yeah.

908
00:41:21,549 --> 00:41:21,750
It's

909
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:23,050
a it's a penis.

910
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:29,609
Told you not to bother me when I'm cleaning my
room.

911
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:30,869
Okay.

912
00:41:30,869 --> 00:41:31,769
One more time.

913
00:41:37,244 --> 00:41:39,825
You'd be more pre senior players equals
product.

914
00:41:40,045 --> 00:41:42,765
It's not pre senior players all that we're
talking about here.

915
00:41:44,364 --> 00:41:50,000
There are definitely young guys that aren't
even ranked low on the PGA Tour.

916
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:52,960
There's also some Korn Ferry guys that would
take that in a heartbeat.

917
00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:53,840
Yeah.

918
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,320
There's plenty of dudes out there that would
take the opportunity.

919
00:41:56,860 --> 00:42:00,539
I think I and, again, I think that is the more
interesting aspect.

920
00:42:00,539 --> 00:42:03,655
I think they get away from the names per se.

921
00:42:03,795 --> 00:42:08,034
They start bringing in because they've got the
big names, right, as far as the captains of the

922
00:42:08,034 --> 00:42:08,534
teams.

923
00:42:09,394 --> 00:42:12,855
Maybe they'll pick the winner of the Creator
Classic and give him an opportunity.

924
00:42:13,875 --> 00:42:14,355
Yeah.

925
00:42:14,355 --> 00:42:17,735
Maybe that becomes a qualifying event for a
spot on LIV.

926
00:42:18,730 --> 00:42:19,530
Fucking joke.

927
00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:20,010
Anyways

928
00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:22,269
Good old Luke Kwon.

929
00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:27,450
They really played up during the Creator
Classic that he had brain damage from a cart

930
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:27,950
accident.

931
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:30,989
I'm like, I really want them to explain this
golf cart accident.

932
00:42:31,815 --> 00:42:32,214
Yeah.

933
00:42:32,214 --> 00:42:33,594
They didn't share the story.

934
00:42:33,734 --> 00:42:37,255
They just kept saying that he had brain damage,
was in the hospital.

935
00:42:37,255 --> 00:42:39,994
That's why he doesn't play professional golf
apparently.

936
00:42:40,695 --> 00:42:41,894
I'm just like, what?

937
00:42:41,894 --> 00:42:47,195
Like, this how can you just lead with he was in
a golf cart accident?

938
00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:48,420
What did he do?

939
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:49,460
He drive off a mountain?

940
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:50,579
That's what I wanna know.

941
00:42:50,579 --> 00:42:53,320
Or did he flip a cart and it landed on his
head?

942
00:42:53,619 --> 00:42:55,539
I've done that a bunch of times.

943
00:42:55,539 --> 00:42:56,039
Yeah.

944
00:42:56,099 --> 00:42:57,960
I thought I broke my shoulder once.

945
00:42:58,179 --> 00:42:58,679
Yeah.

946
00:42:58,980 --> 00:42:59,460
Yeah.

947
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:02,964
I, I wrecked John Daly's golf cart right in
front of him.

948
00:43:02,964 --> 00:43:04,505
I think I told that story before.

949
00:43:04,885 --> 00:43:05,204
Anyways

950
00:43:05,525 --> 00:43:05,844
Alright.

951
00:43:05,844 --> 00:43:07,444
We gotta keep it moving here.

952
00:43:07,444 --> 00:43:09,304
I know, we're on a tight schedule.

953
00:43:10,164 --> 00:43:13,704
Let's go ahead and move on from LIV Golf
Chicago.

954
00:43:13,764 --> 00:43:18,679
But just so you guys know, Ian Poulter's in
46th, Pat Perez in 48th.

955
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:20,360
Those are the guys on the bubble.

956
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:22,360
I forget who's in 47th.

957
00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:23,559
I didn't write it down.

958
00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:31,144
But the drop zone, you've got Branden Grace,
Scott Vincent, Bubba Watson, and Laurie Canter

959
00:43:31,204 --> 00:43:34,505
that, are all in that relegation zone.

960
00:43:35,204 --> 00:43:36,905
So watch out for those storylines.

961
00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:41,684
I would just love to see the PGA Tour do a
better job with the guys who are about to lose

962
00:43:41,684 --> 00:43:42,324
their card.

963
00:43:42,324 --> 00:43:45,960
And if they're in the fall series, like, that
could be all of this.

964
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:48,519
They should be the highlight stories.

965
00:43:48,739 --> 00:43:49,780
We should be hearing about

966
00:43:49,780 --> 00:43:49,940
it.

967
00:43:50,099 --> 00:43:52,119
This could be the relegation series.

968
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:52,820
Yes.

969
00:43:52,820 --> 00:43:58,760
I mean, use a different word than relegation,
but this could be that type of setup.

970
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:00,184
Feast or famine.

971
00:44:00,184 --> 00:44:01,465
Like, whatever you wanna call it.

972
00:44:01,465 --> 00:44:01,704
Yeah.

973
00:44:01,704 --> 00:44:01,864
Yeah.

974
00:44:01,864 --> 00:44:02,105
Yeah.

975
00:44:02,105 --> 00:44:06,824
But we need to highlight who those
personalities are, so that you create that

976
00:44:06,824 --> 00:44:09,224
underdog mentality and people could start
getting behind people.

977
00:44:09,224 --> 00:44:10,344
You got something to follow.

978
00:44:10,344 --> 00:44:11,159
How did he do?

979
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:13,719
I know he was like, his career could change
forever.

980
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,239
If he doesn't make it, like, what happened?

981
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,719
I don't know.

982
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Just there's no hype.

983
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:22,519
One that I don't know, and I don't know if
anybody else knows this because I don't know if

984
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:28,425
it's been actually discussed and talked about
by Greg Norman or anybody in the executive team

985
00:44:28,425 --> 00:44:32,125
over there at LIV Golf, but what happens to
Anthony Kim?

986
00:44:33,144 --> 00:44:34,684
Because he's in the drop zone.

987
00:44:34,824 --> 00:44:39,599
So if he ends up in the drop zone, does he have
to play his way back, or do they throw him

988
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,819
another contract to be an individual player?

989
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,179
He's drawn.

990
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:44,480
I see.

991
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:45,859
Individual players work.

992
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,900
I would imagine he's drawn way too much love to
it and his plight.

993
00:44:51,164 --> 00:44:54,765
I mean, they've blown him up, the amount of
interviews that he's done talking about

994
00:44:54,765 --> 00:44:55,751
addiction and all that shit.

995
00:44:55,751 --> 00:44:56,684
And, like Yeah.

996
00:44:56,684 --> 00:44:58,285
But they're not gonna let that just fall.

997
00:44:58,285 --> 00:45:00,625
That's they put a lot of work into him.

998
00:45:01,005 --> 00:45:02,204
I completely agree with you.

999
00:45:02,204 --> 00:45:05,344
They're gonna give him another year to see if
he can get it done.

1000
00:45:05,739 --> 00:45:09,500
And I just don't know how that all plays out
with it being the drop zone and him being in

1001
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:15,280
the drop zone and stating that you have to play
your way back in, but then you're gonna give

1002
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:20,059
another individual player because they did two
individual players this year that would play in

1003
00:45:20,059 --> 00:45:20,539
events.

1004
00:45:20,539 --> 00:45:25,184
So that's kinda like their sponsor's exemption,
so I'm sure that's gonna be the same thing

1005
00:45:25,485 --> 00:45:26,304
moving forward.

1006
00:45:26,844 --> 00:45:29,105
Let's get into the Swanny's style segment,
folks.

1007
00:45:29,164 --> 00:45:33,900
So for the Swanny's style segment, this is not
actually a segment this week.

1008
00:45:34,059 --> 00:45:34,960
This is an announcement.

1009
00:45:35,579 --> 00:45:36,079
Okay?

1010
00:45:36,380 --> 00:45:38,219
You guys are getting taken care of.

1011
00:45:38,219 --> 00:45:40,400
I went to Swanny's, and I'm like, hey.

1012
00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:40,960
Listen.

1013
00:45:41,019 --> 00:45:43,119
Our audience is the absolute best.

1014
00:45:43,579 --> 00:45:46,000
They're absolutely crushing it on our live
broadcast.

1015
00:45:46,219 --> 00:45:50,674
I love everybody that chimes in, even Doctor
McConner.

1016
00:45:51,054 --> 00:45:52,755
That guy is great as well.

1017
00:45:52,815 --> 00:45:59,154
But track golfer, anti-live, Run PMC, Dylan
Vodry, Kartbarn guys.

1018
00:45:59,295 --> 00:46:02,014
I mean, the whole plethora of people that are
jumping on.

1019
00:46:02,014 --> 00:46:02,514
Okay?

1020
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:07,960
So what we're gonna do for everybody,
especially that wants to get this Swanny's

1021
00:46:08,019 --> 00:46:12,019
gear, is for a week, and I'm gonna explain this
further.

1022
00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:14,760
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1023
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1024
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1025
00:46:18,605 --> 00:46:22,545
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1026
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1027
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K.

1028
00:46:25,965 --> 00:46:32,430
So this is our pull hook golf, Swanny's golf
audience appreciation.

1029
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:37,469
Now there is a brand new luggage set that I've
talked about on this podcast.

1030
00:46:38,730 --> 00:46:41,930
The luggage set, we are giving away an entire
set.

1031
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:42,989
That's two backpacks.

1032
00:46:43,355 --> 00:46:44,894
That is the shoe bag.

1033
00:46:44,954 --> 00:46:46,315
That is the duffle bag.

1034
00:46:46,315 --> 00:46:52,554
I've been using this nonstop for going on a
little weekend trip, doing a member-guest, and

1035
00:46:52,554 --> 00:46:53,835
it's been absolutely awesome.

1036
00:46:53,835 --> 00:46:57,375
The backpack goes with me to all the ASU
football tailgates.

1037
00:46:58,315 --> 00:47:04,449
So with this giveaway, okay, this is gonna be
announced next week, so it's going to start

1038
00:47:04,449 --> 00:47:04,949
tomorrow.

1039
00:47:05,489 --> 00:47:10,369
Be on the lookout for the Instagram post that I
post because we're obviously gonna have the

1040
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:14,485
podcast cover for this week, but we're also
gonna have a Swannies giveaway post.

1041
00:47:14,485 --> 00:47:18,565
What you're gonna have to do and I don't wanna
get Buttsy in trouble with any of his sponsors,

1042
00:47:18,565 --> 00:47:22,565
so I'm not gonna include you on this, Buttsy,
for a follow.

1043
00:47:22,565 --> 00:47:25,785
But guys, you should make sure you're following
Buttsy.

1044
00:47:25,844 --> 00:47:26,344
Okay?

1045
00:47:27,069 --> 00:47:28,670
That's first and foremost on Instagram.

1046
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:29,069
Thank you.

1047
00:47:29,069 --> 00:47:33,389
Make sure to give Buttsy a follow because in
order to be eligible for this event and I

1048
00:47:33,389 --> 00:47:33,789
thought about it.

1049
00:47:33,789 --> 00:47:37,710
I was like, I should make them have to follow
you as well, but that would mean you'd have to

1050
00:47:37,710 --> 00:47:38,589
post and whatever.

1051
00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:43,045
But with that said, follow Pull Hook Golf on
Instagram.

1052
00:47:43,585 --> 00:47:47,204
You also have to be following Swannies Golf on
Instagram.

1053
00:47:47,824 --> 00:47:54,539
You have to like the post, and then you have to
tag your typical foursome in the comments.

1054
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:55,000
Okay?

1055
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,019
This is not your dream foursome this time.

1056
00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:01,819
This is your typical foursome that you play
golf with on the weekends, your buddies.

1057
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:05,019
Entries are unlimited, so tag as many friends
as you want.

1058
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:08,664
But, each tag should be for four players.

1059
00:48:08,664 --> 00:48:09,065
Okay?

1060
00:48:09,065 --> 00:48:14,505
Or each comment should be four players in there
or three players, obviously, and then yourself.

1061
00:48:14,505 --> 00:48:19,964
So the drawing will be live on Instagram next
week.

1062
00:48:20,429 --> 00:48:20,670
Okay?

1063
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:23,309
So make sure to stay tuned for those details.

1064
00:48:23,309 --> 00:48:30,269
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1065
00:48:30,269 --> 00:48:35,250
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1066
00:48:36,244 --> 00:48:39,625
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1067
00:48:39,844 --> 00:48:44,585
I was so pumped when I'm like, hey, I think we
should do this for the audience, and Swannies

1068
00:48:44,644 --> 00:48:45,045
agreed.

1069
00:48:45,045 --> 00:48:50,005
They're like, you guys absolutely crush it with
sales, so let's go ahead and give these guys

1070
00:48:50,005 --> 00:48:50,789
what they want.

1071
00:48:51,269 --> 00:48:51,769
Cool.

1072
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:52,789
35% off.

1073
00:48:52,789 --> 00:48:55,610
So that is the Swannies style segment for this
week.

1074
00:48:55,670 --> 00:49:00,489
And without further ado, let's move right into
our final segment of the night.

1075
00:49:00,630 --> 00:49:04,570
Is Bernhard Langer legally anchoring his
putter?

1076
00:49:05,614 --> 00:49:07,694
Let's, let's look at this.

1077
00:49:07,694 --> 00:49:08,014
Okay?

1078
00:49:08,014 --> 00:49:10,675
Because I've got an example here.

1079
00:49:12,974 --> 00:49:14,675
This is the point in question.

1080
00:49:14,815 --> 00:49:15,315
Okay?

1081
00:49:16,175 --> 00:49:23,690
Now I'm going to read the rules out to
everybody so that you can get a good idea as to

1082
00:49:23,690 --> 00:49:30,970
what rule might be broken because, originally,
I believe the rule back in, like, 2017 was that

1083
00:49:30,970 --> 00:49:35,835
your hand can't be connected to your body as an
anchoring point.

1084
00:49:36,214 --> 00:49:39,914
So that's what a lot of these guys kind of
built their entire argument off of.

1085
00:49:40,855 --> 00:49:49,070
Now with that, the anchoring point does not
just have to be according to rule 10.1b.

1086
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:50,450
It's not just your hand.

1087
00:49:51,550 --> 00:50:00,244
It's also if you anchor, like, your forearm or
wrist to your chest, and then your hand is off

1088
00:50:00,244 --> 00:50:02,425
and away holding the putter.

1089
00:50:03,925 --> 00:50:10,585
So that being said, in 2017, this goes all the
way back to then.

1090
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:17,940
Brandel Chamblee is the one who, along with
Trot Golfer here, our audience member, called

1091
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:21,239
out Bernhard Langer and Scott McCarron.

1092
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:21,780
Okay?

1093
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:28,234
And his tweet, this is verbatim, with regard to
anchor or with regard to the anchoring ban on

1094
00:50:28,234 --> 00:50:30,734
the PGA Tour Champions, it's appalling.

1095
00:50:31,034 --> 00:50:34,954
I have never seen such gross disregard for the
spirit of the game.

1096
00:50:34,954 --> 00:50:37,214
That was why Brandel Chamblee tweeted that.

1097
00:50:37,489 --> 00:50:44,210
And then the PGA Tour's PR department came out
with a statement from Bernhard Langer and Scott

1098
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:49,250
McCarron, basically not stating how they
weren't anchoring, just stating that they

1099
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:49,750
weren't.

1100
00:50:50,094 --> 00:50:50,594
Okay?

1101
00:50:50,974 --> 00:50:55,855
So I ask you, Buttsy, what is your take on
this?

1102
00:50:55,855 --> 00:50:57,635
I wanna start off with you first.

1103
00:50:58,414 --> 00:51:07,039
Well, it seems like the rule was developed to
extinguish anything that looked like this,

1104
00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:07,579
really.

1105
00:51:07,579 --> 00:51:09,440
They're trying to get rid of that altogether.

1106
00:51:10,059 --> 00:51:16,780
And to find a little loophole or a way around
it, it's just like, like fluffing up your lie,

1107
00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:18,940
but then saying, oh, I wasn't fluffing it up.

1108
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:22,391
I was just putting my 3-wood behind the ball in
the rough.

1109
00:51:22,391 --> 00:51:23,780
You know what I mean?

1110
00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:29,059
Like, it's, it's not something I don't think
you can call on them, but they should call it

1111
00:51:29,059 --> 00:51:29,615
on themselves.

1112
00:51:29,615 --> 00:51:31,559
Like, it's just ridiculous that it's gross.

1113
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,079
It's absolutely cheating.

1114
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:34,760
It's like it goes against the rule.

1115
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,440
You're still doing it.

1116
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,360
You kinda skirting the edge of it.

1117
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,719
It's just kinda chintzy to me.

1118
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,460
It's cheap.

1119
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,400
Yeah.

1120
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,619
I completely agree.

1121
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,405
Obviously, Bernhard Langer has dealt with the
yips.

1122
00:51:45,644 --> 00:51:47,485
Okay, and dealt with them really bad.

1123
00:51:47,485 --> 00:51:50,204
Even with the anchoring and everything, he
still struggles.

1124
00:51:50,204 --> 00:51:53,005
So, like, this is a lifeline for Bernhard
Langer.

1125
00:51:53,005 --> 00:51:54,364
That's why he's fighting it.

1126
00:51:54,364 --> 00:51:55,164
Why he's doing it?

1127
00:51:55,164 --> 00:51:55,324
Yeah.

1128
00:51:55,324 --> 00:51:55,804
Exactly.

1129
00:51:55,804 --> 00:52:03,289
That's why he just And in his mind, he's
probably interpreted the rule differently and

1130
00:52:03,289 --> 00:52:09,449
doesn't consider his forearm being pressed
against his chest as an anchor point even

1131
00:52:09,449 --> 00:52:10,190
though it is.

1132
00:52:10,569 --> 00:52:11,769
It's desperate for him.

1133
00:52:11,929 --> 00:52:18,114
I don't think he would be able to putt if he
didn't find a way to somehow skirt that rule.

1134
00:52:18,575 --> 00:52:19,075
Agreed.

1135
00:52:19,135 --> 00:52:25,295
And in those articles and so forth, as I did a
lot of research around this, I saw that, you

1136
00:52:25,295 --> 00:52:31,530
know, the USGA has talked with Bernhard Langer
as well as guys like Scott McCarron numerous

1137
00:52:31,530 --> 00:52:35,789
times, but there's nothing that they can do
about it because it's this gray area.

1138
00:52:35,929 --> 00:52:40,909
It's kinda like on review, on, like, the NFL or
MLB.

1139
00:52:41,369 --> 00:52:47,614
If the ruling on the field was called one way,
they can't overturn it because there's not

1140
00:52:47,614 --> 00:52:48,755
enough video evidence.

1141
00:52:49,375 --> 00:52:53,234
That's kind of what we're in right now with
this.

1142
00:52:53,614 --> 00:52:59,089
So TrotGolfer says by holding a forearm against
any part of your body to use gripping hand as a

1143
00:52:59,089 --> 00:53:02,630
stable point around which the other hand may
swing the club.

1144
00:53:02,849 --> 00:53:05,010
And that's essentially what he's doing.

1145
00:53:05,010 --> 00:53:09,190
He's he is holding, and you can see it with the
clothing.

1146
00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:12,855
In almost every single image, his hand is off
of his body.

1147
00:53:13,234 --> 00:53:20,275
However, his forearm and wrist are pressing up
against his chest so that he can maintain an

1148
00:53:20,275 --> 00:53:22,639
anchor point in his stroke.

1149
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:29,260
If you wanna squash it, put a little put a
little camera inside his shirt and, you know,

1150
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:30,699
because the shirt does puff out.

1151
00:53:30,699 --> 00:53:32,299
I can't even go even saying this.

1152
00:53:32,299 --> 00:53:35,659
It falls away from you when you bend over to
putt.

1153
00:53:35,659 --> 00:53:36,159
Right?

1154
00:53:36,465 --> 00:53:42,545
And that might touch your wrist, and you might
be able to get your forearm this close to but

1155
00:53:42,545 --> 00:53:43,765
not actually touch.

1156
00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:46,785
But it might touch your shirt, and it might
look that way.

1157
00:53:46,785 --> 00:53:47,105
Right?

1158
00:53:47,105 --> 00:53:52,909
Now the difference between touching your body
or your shirt would be massive in terms of the

1159
00:53:52,909 --> 00:53:56,190
yips and being and, like, what he's trying to
use it for.

1160
00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:56,690
Yeah.

1161
00:53:57,389 --> 00:53:59,389
But that's where you run into this gray area.

1162
00:53:59,389 --> 00:54:03,309
There's no way to prove that he's not actually
touching his body based on what we see.

1163
00:54:03,309 --> 00:54:05,875
All you could see is that he's touching his
shirt.

1164
00:54:05,934 --> 00:54:06,974
How far in does it go?

1165
00:54:06,974 --> 00:54:08,414
Is it actually touching his skin?

1166
00:54:08,414 --> 00:54:09,855
Like, put a camera in there.

1167
00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:11,074
Like, prove us wrong.

1168
00:54:14,014 --> 00:54:14,994
says new rule.

1169
00:54:15,135 --> 00:54:17,135
Hands and forearms must touch.

1170
00:54:17,135 --> 00:54:19,614
And this goes into another, like, a bigger
thing too.

1171
00:54:19,614 --> 00:54:26,460
I think that a putter being completely and
radically different in how it's used than the

1172
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:29,820
rest of your golf clubs, I'm kind of a
traditionalist that way.

1173
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:29,980
Same.

1174
00:54:29,980 --> 00:54:30,139
You

1175
00:54:30,139 --> 00:54:34,460
should have to make a swing with it like you do
a wedge or a 7-iron or a driver or anything

1176
00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:34,844
else.

1177
00:54:35,244 --> 00:54:39,585
You shouldn't get to the putting aspect of the
game and then be able to do this radically

1178
00:54:39,644 --> 00:54:43,025
biomechanically more efficient thing to get the
ball in the hole.

1179
00:54:43,644 --> 00:54:48,844
It just takes a lot of the skill, and timing
and yeah.

1180
00:54:48,844 --> 00:54:50,750
Just the skill out of what you're doing.

1181
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:55,289
You're kinda finding a way to kinda cheat, and
they're already doing it with golf clubs.

1182
00:54:55,289 --> 00:54:58,170
Even these zero-torque putters that are out
now, like, this shit's

1183
00:54:58,570 --> 00:55:01,789
Don't don't go there.

1184
00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:08,105
Everybody is going to be using one at some
point or another because the science is there

1185
00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:08,684
on it.

1186
00:55:09,784 --> 00:55:16,184
But even that's, like, really close to being
able to kind of improve over what you're

1187
00:55:16,184 --> 00:55:17,550
naturally capable of doing.

1188
00:55:19,309 --> 00:55:23,969
I agree with you on the length of the club.

1189
00:55:28,110 --> 00:55:29,969
It should not be longer than your driver.

1190
00:55:30,590 --> 00:55:31,090
Correct.

1191
00:55:31,550 --> 00:55:35,865
So I have a big problem against these long
putters.

1192
00:55:35,865 --> 00:55:36,605
Always have.

1193
00:55:37,065 --> 00:55:44,184
I've always said a putter should be a certain
length and max out at, call it, 38 inches or

1194
00:55:44,184 --> 00:55:44,825
something like that.

1195
00:55:44,825 --> 00:55:45,144
Like the

1196
00:55:45,144 --> 00:55:45,785
belly button.

1197
00:55:45,785 --> 00:55:46,585
The belly button.

1198
00:55:46,585 --> 00:55:47,085
Whatever.

1199
00:55:47,144 --> 00:55:47,644
Yeah.

1200
00:55:48,949 --> 00:55:54,309
This whole thing where it's gotten out of
control, especially on the Champions Tour

1201
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:57,130
because of Bernhard Langer and his success.

1202
00:55:57,429 --> 00:55:59,349
Granted, he's had a ton of success with it.

1203
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:59,849
Right?

1204
00:55:59,909 --> 00:56:07,055
So I just think that that needs to be a
complete ban where you can, and the one issue

1205
00:56:07,055 --> 00:56:14,255
with the USGA, and I read this from the USGA in
regards to this, is that you can't say when

1206
00:56:14,255 --> 00:56:17,970
it's touching clothing that that is anchoring.

1207
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:18,849
Okay?

1208
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:24,990
So they have to rely on the player to be able
to say whether or not they believe that they

1209
00:56:24,990 --> 00:56:25,730
are anchoring.

1210
00:56:25,789 --> 00:56:27,010
And it's up for interpretation.

1211
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:27,869
Right?

1212
00:56:27,869 --> 00:56:30,190
So that's the hardest part about all of this.

1213
00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:32,744
But do I think that Bernhard Langer is
cheating?

1214
00:56:32,744 --> 00:56:34,664
Do I think that Scott McCarron was cheating?

1215
00:56:34,664 --> 00:56:34,984
Yes.

1216
00:56:34,984 --> 00:56:35,484
Absolutely.

1217
00:56:35,784 --> 00:56:42,905
Like, there's no doubt about it in my mind that
when you see, like, boob being pushed up and

1218
00:56:42,905 --> 00:56:43,864
you've had the yips

1219
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:44,799
Yeah.

1220
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:45,299
Yeah.

1221
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:48,099
You 100% are anchoring that.

1222
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:50,319
So there's no doubt.

1223
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:56,179
And I asked Bob Estes on X, and I haven't heard
or seen the comment yet back.

1224
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,824
I want to know, like, what do the officials say
on the Champions Tour about this?

1225
00:57:02,204 --> 00:57:03,164
Or just say, hey.

1226
00:57:03,164 --> 00:57:03,565
Look.

1227
00:57:03,565 --> 00:57:04,304
Long putter.

1228
00:57:05,405 --> 00:57:06,525
You wanna keep doing this?

1229
00:57:06,525 --> 00:57:06,925
That's fine.

1230
00:57:06,925 --> 00:57:11,744
But you are now the only guy that has to putt
with a shirt off.

1231
00:57:11,885 --> 00:57:13,390
You gotta putt with your shirt off.

1232
00:57:13,390 --> 00:57:13,910
Well, that's the thing.

1233
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:18,510
I don't think the Champions Tour gets as much
publicity around them as the PGA Tour.

1234
00:57:18,510 --> 00:57:23,010
That's why truck golfer saying here, Adam Scott
has a huge gap of air in between his forearm,

1235
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:29,904
and he really does have more of a he kinda uses
it like a dart thrower where, like, the elbow

1236
00:57:30,125 --> 00:57:38,204
is online, and that's kind of his rocking back
and forth point so that it stays in line with

1237
00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:39,184
where he's putting.

1238
00:57:39,969 --> 00:57:40,849
And I agree.

1239
00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:43,570
Like, Lucas Glover doesn't have that either.

1240
00:57:43,570 --> 00:57:48,710
So I completely agree with both of those
statements around Adam Scott, Lucas Glover.

1241
00:57:49,730 --> 00:57:53,650
It's just that the Champions Tour doesn't get
enough, and I guarantee you, what ends up

1242
00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:58,045
happening is they sit there and go, do we
really wanna make a big issue out of this?

1243
00:57:58,425 --> 00:58:04,505
And for them, it's kinda like, let's just put
this underneath the rug or underneath the

1244
00:58:04,505 --> 00:58:07,164
carpet and just hope it goes away.

1245
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,239
And it kinda did for a long time.

1246
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:13,579
I mean, it's not until Trot has done a
phenomenal job.

1247
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:15,880
He has he has dug this one

1248
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,599
out of hell.

1249
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:18,199
I mean, he got us talking about it.

1250
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:19,960
So good on you, Trot, for

1251
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,840
He's right.

1252
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:21,800
Like, I was He's right.

1253
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:27,714
When we first started working together on here,
and he would bring that up, I even myself up, I

1254
00:58:27,714 --> 00:58:28,594
was like, I don't know.

1255
00:58:28,594 --> 00:58:30,214
Is it really that big of a deal?

1256
00:58:30,514 --> 00:58:34,295
Then you kinda look at all the tournaments this
dude's won and, like, oh, wait.

1257
00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:38,030
If that's the only way he can putt, you know,
it's a huge advantage.

1258
00:58:38,030 --> 00:58:39,489
And once you fit I don't know.

1259
00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:42,829
Like, he's he's beat a lot of people because of
it.

1260
00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:45,090
He's got the most wins on the Champions Tour.

1261
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:45,390
Yeah.

1262
00:58:45,390 --> 00:58:45,550
So

1263
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:46,030
That's what

1264
00:58:46,030 --> 00:58:46,590
I'm saying.

1265
00:58:46,590 --> 00:58:46,750
So

1266
00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:50,289
It is a big topic that should be discussed.

1267
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:55,525
It's just been going on for so long, and
Bernhard refuses to change it because he's

1268
00:58:55,525 --> 00:58:57,704
adamant that he is not breaking a rule.

1269
00:58:57,764 --> 00:58:58,164
Okay?

1270
00:58:58,164 --> 00:58:58,484
Yeah.

1271
00:58:58,484 --> 00:59:03,204
But once again, you have to understand that
he's interpreting the rule in the way that he

1272
00:59:03,204 --> 00:59:04,409
wants to interpret it.

1273
00:59:04,409 --> 00:59:09,609
So in his mind, he's made himself believe that
he is not breaking a rule, and I believe that.

1274
00:59:09,609 --> 00:59:12,510
I believe Bernhard Langer does not think that
he is cheating.

1275
00:59:13,369 --> 00:59:16,989
So it's not something that he feels that he's
doing.

1276
00:59:17,445 --> 00:59:18,644
I guarantee that.

1277
00:59:18,644 --> 00:59:25,364
However, I do believe that it is cheating, and
I do believe that I mean, you can do the

1278
00:59:25,364 --> 00:59:30,489
eyeball test on this one, in my opinion, and
see that the boob is pushed up and that when

1279
00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:31,710
look at the stroke.

1280
00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:33,610
I guess that's the bigger thing.

1281
00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:34,329
Look at the stroke.

1282
00:59:34,329 --> 00:59:37,289
Does this ever move away from the area?

1283
00:59:37,289 --> 00:59:39,130
Like, is this moving independently.

1284
00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:40,430
It doesn't move independently.

1285
00:59:41,050 --> 00:59:43,925
It stays in place with that.

1286
00:59:43,925 --> 00:59:49,445
So there's no that is an anchor, and maybe it's
his German that really messes him up.

1287
00:59:49,445 --> 00:59:51,144
Maybe he reads the English differently.

1288
00:59:51,364 --> 00:59:57,329
Maybe you say that your hand, like, can't cross
a 90-degree angle with your elbow.

1289
00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:58,930
Like, you know, maybe something like that.

1290
00:59:58,930 --> 01:00:00,550
That way there's no confusion.

1291
01:00:00,610 --> 01:00:02,150
Like, there's no way around it.

1292
01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:02,450
Right?

1293
01:00:02,450 --> 01:00:04,289
Like, it can't go above where your elbow's at.

1294
01:00:04,289 --> 01:00:07,250
Maybe it's gotta stay, you know, below a 90.

1295
01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:07,890
I don't know.

1296
01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:09,969
I'm just trying to think of bullshit to get
around it.

1297
01:00:09,969 --> 01:00:11,974
But, yeah, I don't know.

1298
01:00:11,974 --> 01:00:13,375
We should, I don't know.

1299
01:00:13,655 --> 01:00:14,535
The Langer rule.

1300
01:00:14,535 --> 01:00:19,575
I mean, really, like, there should be a rule
that gets put into place so that you cannot do

1301
01:00:19,575 --> 01:00:19,735
it.

1302
01:00:19,735 --> 01:00:25,599
And I think they are like, what's funny about
this with the 10.1b is that they've actually

1303
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:32,159
created a rule about indirect anchoring
specifically to target somebody like Bernhard

1304
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:35,440
Langer and Scott McCarron and so forth, but
they do not care.

1305
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,734
Like, Bernhard Langer is still doing it, still
absolutely doing it because he knows that this

1306
01:00:40,734 --> 01:00:41,635
is his lifeline.

1307
01:00:41,934 --> 01:00:44,574
If he can't do this, he's screwed.

1308
01:00:44,574 --> 01:00:45,714
He can't make a putt.

1309
01:00:46,734 --> 01:00:48,894
And he's he's good for the Champions Tour.

1310
01:00:48,894 --> 01:00:49,394
Right?

1311
01:00:49,534 --> 01:00:53,190
Like, you know, he's like the Tiger Woods of
the Champions Tour.

1312
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:54,809
I mean, a lot of people like him.

1313
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:56,969
So yeah.

1314
01:00:57,989 --> 01:00:58,390
Yeah.

1315
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:59,289
I don't know.

1316
01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:01,430
What what are we gonna do?

1317
01:01:01,430 --> 01:01:02,869
I mean, nobody's gonna say it.

1318
01:01:02,869 --> 01:01:03,989
They're not gonna do anything about it.

1319
01:01:03,989 --> 01:01:09,505
Well, it's up to us as part of the media to
keep that conversation going to talk about it

1320
01:01:09,505 --> 01:01:11,684
and kinda to push it forward.

1321
01:01:11,984 --> 01:01:16,404
And hopefully, people with even a bigger
platform than us pick this up.

1322
01:01:16,704 --> 01:01:22,989
Well maybe like Subpar Golf or somebody along
those lines, and they don't take the position.

1323
01:01:23,289 --> 01:01:28,989
See, the problem is once you get up to a bigger
platform size, you're so tied to the PGA Tour.

1324
01:01:29,369 --> 01:01:37,224
Like, you're not going to see Colt go and talk
poorly about the rules officials for the

1325
01:01:37,224 --> 01:01:41,144
Champions Tour because he might lose his
broadcasting job.

1326
01:01:41,144 --> 01:01:41,545
Right?

1327
01:01:41,545 --> 01:01:42,025
Right.

1328
01:01:42,025 --> 01:01:46,744
So those are the politics you have to play when
you have a big enough platform that size.

1329
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:51,519
So that's why we're kind of the perfect size to
be able to talk about this stuff.

1330
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:54,960
Well, and to Kyle's point, you know, he goes,
well, he's still controlling the face with his

1331
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,280
wrist.

1332
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,780
Well, that wrist, for sure.

1333
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:04,574
But for the issue that he has, which is the
yips, he's deleting half of the problem by

1334
01:02:04,574 --> 01:02:06,434
taking one arm out of the equation.

1335
01:02:06,494 --> 01:02:14,414
Like, you know, for his particular disease, for
his type of yipping, it lets him get away with

1336
01:02:14,414 --> 01:02:16,829
that and maximize his chance to make more
putts.

1337
01:02:16,829 --> 01:02:17,630
It's not for everybody.

1338
01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:22,029
It's not like saying, well, if he's doing it
and it worked really well, everybody would be

1339
01:02:22,029 --> 01:02:23,069
trying to do it.

1340
01:02:23,069 --> 01:02:27,469
It's not for everybody, but with somebody with
his particular problem, it seems like it's

1341
01:02:27,469 --> 01:02:28,425
helped him a lot.

1342
01:02:28,505 --> 01:02:28,824
Yeah.

1343
01:02:28,824 --> 01:02:33,545
And here's I do wanna clarify one thing here
because Kyle from Car Barn Guns, he's saying

1344
01:02:33,545 --> 01:02:36,525
his forearm may be anchored, but the wrist and
hand isn't.

1345
01:02:36,585 --> 01:02:42,570
But that is exactly what rule 10.1 or 10.1b is.

1346
01:02:42,570 --> 01:02:48,110
It is an indirect anchor, and that is illegal
in the rules of golf.

1347
01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:52,170
So that's where I think Bernhard might not be
understanding English when it comes to that.

1348
01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:56,554
He's just, like, doesn't wanna hear it, doesn't
want to read it, and doesn't believe it.

1349
01:02:56,554 --> 01:03:02,394
And, sure enough, Trot Golfer says there's a
specific rule about the forearm in 10.1b

1350
01:03:02,394 --> 01:03:03,375
section 2.

1351
01:03:03,755 --> 01:03:05,594
And here's the other thing with it.

1352
01:03:05,594 --> 01:03:09,160
There is an exact example of this in the rules
of golf.

1353
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,219
There is a graphic.

1354
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:17,640
I wish I had grabbed the graphic because it
shows, like, the hand being away and, like,

1355
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,219
literally how Bernhard Langer holds the putter,
and it shows that that is banned.

1356
01:03:22,815 --> 01:03:25,614
So it's like, yeah, you can't you can't do
that.

1357
01:03:25,614 --> 01:03:30,815
And I think somebody has to have the balls to
be able to go in there.

1358
01:03:30,815 --> 01:03:35,054
And I think isn't Bernhard Langer done though,
or isn't he, like, his last tournament coming

1359
01:03:35,054 --> 01:03:35,534
up?

1360
01:03:35,534 --> 01:03:40,719
So they're just happy that he's gonna go be
gone and no longer

1361
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:42,059
be over.

1362
01:03:42,059 --> 01:03:44,239
The headache is over once he stops.

1363
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:49,519
But, yeah, he got away with a good one, so it
is what it is.

1364
01:03:49,579 --> 01:03:50,800
And a lot of money.

1365
01:03:51,099 --> 01:03:53,119
It's also a rule that changed.

1366
01:03:53,505 --> 01:03:54,005
Right?

1367
01:03:54,304 --> 01:03:58,385
So it's not as if it started out.

1368
01:03:58,385 --> 01:04:01,444
Like, you used to be able to anchor a long
putter back in the day.

1369
01:04:01,824 --> 01:04:03,344
And why did they change that?

1370
01:04:03,344 --> 01:04:04,484
Because it was cheating.

1371
01:04:04,625 --> 01:04:07,605
For the right people, it made them better
putters.

1372
01:04:07,744 --> 01:04:08,244
Exactly.

1373
01:04:08,704 --> 01:04:09,119
Yeah.

1374
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:13,300
Anti Lifts says all his wins need an asterisk
now.

1375
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,280
I'm not gonna go that far, but I do think that
it's not right.

1376
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,559
Well, he's played in plenty of events.

1377
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:21,920
It was legal to the PGA Tour.

1378
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,119
He would have gotten called out.

1379
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:23,599
Yeah.

1380
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:28,614
I think if he was playing on the PGA Tour, I
think it's a bigger issue.

1381
01:04:28,614 --> 01:04:31,494
I think guys on the PGA Tour know well enough.

1382
01:04:31,494 --> 01:04:33,034
Let's not go down that path.

1383
01:04:33,815 --> 01:04:38,394
So, Trot golfer says, this is his last call
here in Phoenix.

1384
01:04:38,614 --> 01:04:39,734
You guys go with me.

1385
01:04:39,734 --> 01:04:40,054
I might.

1386
01:04:40,054 --> 01:04:41,070
When is it, Trot?

1387
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:42,670
I ain't going out there with you.

1388
01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:43,489
Fuck, no.

1389
01:04:44,269 --> 01:04:46,610
Should go harass the shit out of that guy.

1390
01:04:47,869 --> 01:04:49,010
I would go.

1391
01:04:49,070 --> 01:04:54,829
I've got no issues with standing next to Trot
while he's just absolutely screaming at Langer,

1392
01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:57,045
holding up his T-shirt.

1393
01:04:57,045 --> 01:04:57,545
November.

1394
01:04:57,764 --> 01:04:58,085
Okay.

1395
01:04:58,085 --> 01:04:59,045
That could be cool.

1396
01:04:59,364 --> 01:04:59,764
Listen.

1397
01:04:59,764 --> 01:05:03,764
I'm trying to get a membership over at Phoenix
Country Club, so I don't know if I really

1398
01:05:03,764 --> 01:05:07,065
should be yelling out things, but I will stand
there.

1399
01:05:07,125 --> 01:05:10,905
Troy, you know what you need to do is go to,
like, a boat store and buy, like, a cheap

1400
01:05:11,309 --> 01:05:13,010
10-pound anchor with a chain.

1401
01:05:13,390 --> 01:05:17,469
And, like, whenever he's, like, walking up to a
green, just, like, be there dragging that

1402
01:05:17,469 --> 01:05:19,090
thing, making noise with it.

1403
01:05:19,469 --> 01:05:22,050
So he looks over, you know, see what I'm
saying?

1404
01:05:22,110 --> 01:05:23,010
Sees the anchor.

1405
01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:23,469
Yeah.

1406
01:05:23,469 --> 01:05:23,969
Yeah.

1407
01:05:25,494 --> 01:05:27,755
I love how you had to explain it.

1408
01:05:28,454 --> 01:05:30,394
That just makes it even better.

1409
01:05:30,614 --> 01:05:32,135
The last thing here.

1410
01:05:32,135 --> 01:05:34,454
So, my verdict is it's cheating.

1411
01:05:34,454 --> 01:05:35,514
What's your last verdict?

1412
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:37,429
Yeah.

1413
01:05:37,429 --> 01:05:42,389
If it, if it's against the rules and it's
making, it's giving you an edge on the

1414
01:05:42,389 --> 01:05:47,269
competition even if other people don't have
that edge or don't go down that path.

1415
01:05:47,269 --> 01:05:50,775
Like, it's making you better than you should
be, and that's cheating.

1416
01:05:51,014 --> 01:05:51,514
Boom.

1417
01:05:51,734 --> 01:05:52,795
There you go, Troy.

1418
01:05:52,855 --> 01:05:53,674
Alright, folks.

1419
01:05:54,135 --> 01:05:57,194
That is where we are going to wrap this one up.

1420
01:05:57,894 --> 01:05:59,574
We've gone over quite a bit tonight.

1421
01:05:59,574 --> 01:06:05,630
I mean, we talked about the fall series and how
that should be rebranded, because you got new

1422
01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:07,549
guys that are potentially going to win.

1423
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:11,469
You've got veterans that could win as well, so
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1424
01:06:11,469 --> 01:06:16,429
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01:06:47,625 --> 01:06:50,844
So make sure to follow those instructions and
those rules tomorrow.

1433
01:06:51,385 --> 01:06:56,925
And then we, came to a verdict on Bernard
Langer illegally anchoring his putter.

1434
01:06:57,545 --> 01:06:58,184
Alright, folks.

1435
01:06:58,184 --> 01:06:59,159
We are heading off.

1436
01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:02,859
See you, everybody, and, until next week.

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