Thursday, October 31, 2024
Show Notes
Matt Cook and Buttsy bring you another engaging episode, starting with Buttsy's observations in The Tee Off Report. They dive into a recap of the ZOZO Championship, followed by a detailed leaderboard rundown. The Genesis Championship is also recapped, with special attention given to a locker room incident involving Tom Kim. The Swannies Style Segment adds flair to the discussion. The episode then shifts to the PGA Tour's proposed changes for 2026 by the Player Advisory Council. There's an in-depth look at the potential future of LIV Golf and Greg Norman's expiring contract. The conversation rounds out with insights into TGL's potential impact on the golf world before closing remarks.
(0:00) Welcome to Pull Hook Golf
(3:01) The Tee Off Report w/ Buttsy
(11:24) Recap of the ZOZO Championship
(22:58) Leaderboard Rundown
(24:02) The Genesis Championship Recap
(27:38) Tom Kim Locker Room Incident
(33:00) Swannies Style Segment
(41:00) PAC's 2026 Proposed Changes
(1:29:10) LIV Golf's Future
(1:30:01) Greg Norman's Expiring Contract
(1:32:10) TGL's Potential Impact
(1:41:47) Closing Remarks
Show Transcript
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Welcome back everybody to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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Tonight, we have an epic episode for all of you
that are not watching the World Series.
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Yes, folks.
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It's absolutely killing me.
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I'm a die hard Yankee fan, and they are about
to be swept by the Dodgers potentially.
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But they are currently up in the game.
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So we are hoping that it stays that way the
rest of the way, but we've got an awesome
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episode for those of you tuning in.
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First off, we're gonna go over the tee off
report.
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That's where we begin our episodes now with
Butsy.
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Then we've got the pro golf recap with the Zozo
championship.
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We didn't talk about the other one this week,
which is the Genesis championship that was over
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in South Korea.
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We're gonna be talking about that because there
was a little bit of drama behind that whole
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ordeal.
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And then we got the swanee style segment as per
usual.
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That is a fan favorite.
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We've got the packs proposed changes, which
that is the Players Advisory Council of the PGA
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Tour.
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They are proposing changes for this 2026
season, and it's pretty wild in terms of what
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they're looking to do.
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So we're gonna we're gonna get into that as
well.
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Now that being said, we also have a LiveGolf
update for everybody.
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That's exciting.
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But first, let's start off with our the the
LiveGolf update is, is one that many people
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don't necessarily love, but some do.
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Some absolutely love it.
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Now the Swannies, Swannies style segment, we're
not there yet, folks.
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We're not there yet.
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It's gonna be a great episode.
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Tell you what, these sweatshirts are comfy.
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They just had a big warehouse sale, so I'm
still waiting on my Black Swan stuff.
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I'll be wearing that as soon as I get it.
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That's their higher end line that I've been
talking about for 2 weeks now.
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This is one of my favorites you got on right
now.
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So it kinda has a camo look from a oh my god.
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Almost pulled my fucking hey.
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It looks like camo from a distance, but when
you get up close, it's like some sort of a a
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native print.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of like the an Aztec print.
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You know what I mean?
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Sorry.
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I was feeling it.
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Got it.
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Set the Let's go ahead and get started here
with the tee off report.
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I'm pumped about this tee off report this week
because instead of doing the word association
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to get us kick started, I wanted to start off
with, your top tips, Budsy.
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Your top tips for kids that are just starting
to play the game of golf.
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So what are your top tips for kids playing the
game of golf?
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Oh, god.
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Where do I begin?
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I'm trying to think back when I started.
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I think you gotta figure out, what way you
really prefer to consume tobacco early in life?
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I think you gotta is it a chew?
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Are we doing Xan?
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Are we doing the real thing?
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We smoking darts.
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We smoking cigars.
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What are we doing?
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Snuff.
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And then
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Do kids know what snuff is?
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I don't
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think I find out.
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You know?
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I don't know.
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I think it's starting for me.
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I went to a wedding and stole a cigar, ran into
a park and smoked it until I puked.
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And then figured out this is fucking amazing.
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And I was addicted.
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No.
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I tried dip once, by the way.
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And it was a dip.
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Oh, tobacco dip, you know, chew.
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And, sure enough, I tried it one time puked my
absolute brains out.
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It was peach flavored.
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That's why you didn't want to do it when I
bought it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, not a, not a, not a chew guy.
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And I've never smoked a cigarette either.
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So
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Good.
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They're delicious.
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Don't start.
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But kids, do some kids.
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Yeah.
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Get prepared.
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You got that.
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You're gonna figure that out.
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You gotta find a loyal adult, that will buy
that stuff for you, because, you know, on when
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you start, you're gonna have several years
before you can buy it yourself.
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I'm not going.
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Just kidding, folks.
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That's a joke.
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Big update there from TrotGulfers.
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64 Yankees.
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Continue.
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Oh, shit.
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No.
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I'm very, invested in the series.
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I am too.
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We're low on numbers
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because of it.
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Yeah.
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A lot of baseball cards ride on that as well,
values.
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But yeah.
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No.
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I think, you need to practice.
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You need to practice more than you think you
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That's what I that'd be
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Hot tips.
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Yeah.
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You you gotta practice.
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Whether you have some famous coach or whatever,
you need to start out with the basics, put a
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club on the ground, learn how to aim first and
foremost, and then practice aiming every day of
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your fucking life.
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To piggyback on that, you are never as good as
you think you are in golf.
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No.
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Remember that kids.
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And did Tiger see that?
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I don't know.
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Should have.
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I know.
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He really should have.
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Yeah.
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Only one that was as good as he thought he was
was Moe Norman.
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Moe Norman.
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Thought he
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had He really was.
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He was autistic too.
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Hey.
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Talking about autistic people, have you seen
the guy on Instagram?
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The autistic guy that makes, like, all those
shots?
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I can't comment on that.
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Holy cow.
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Believe him.
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But yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't think he's real.
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I think he's like, shit.
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What if I just said I was autistic?
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I'd probably have a way bigger growth in my
account if I just went that route.
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And
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Really in the niche.
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Fucking unbelievable.
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This is the most high performing autistic
golfer I've seen in my entire life.
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No.
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I think he's authentic.
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I think he's great.
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Hell of a thing.
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I know who he's talking
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about.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Now moving right into the next segment since
we're already hot on it, we're gonna go right
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into Buziana's soapbox.
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This is one of the absolute new favorite
segments.
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You're seeing it all over social media.
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I've been getting a ton of DMs recently telling
me that they love the pet peeve segment is what
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people are calling it.
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I call it Butsy on a soapbox.
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So, Butsy, what is your biggest pet peeve at
the end of a golf round?
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Oh, pet peeve in general, socially on the golf
course is cheap people.
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Cheap golfers.
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You're playing the wrong fucking sport if
you're cheap.
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And I know there's Munis out there that are $20
and allow you to play in the summer without a
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fucking shirt on.
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But even still, whether you spent $20 to play
golf or 200 the guy that finishes a round at a
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nice club first off he knew what it was gonna
cost don't finish the round and stiff the
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fucking cart kid because you paid so much to
play, and definitely don't verbalize that to
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anyone.
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Do not tell anybody that fuck.
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See that guy?
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He's like, have you seen these people?
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Dude, they'll see the cart kid and park a
quarter mile away from the fucking backdrop and
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walk around the building to avoid the
uncomfortable nature of the conversation.
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When it's like, just give, give them $5, give
it.
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You really should tip them a 20, especially
today's day and age of 5 is like a dollar bill.
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But but at least a 55 is the 5 is the standard,
right?
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To where you absolutely need to give your
outside services people at least $5 and I will
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admit it.
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I was a, one of those guys that never
understood.
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Well, if he doesn't clean my clubs, why am I
giving him any money until you work outside
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services?
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You have no idea the amount of work that goes
in to prepping your golf cart, washing it,
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cleaning it, getting it ready, charging it.
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And then all of a sudden being able to put that
out there, park it in a proper position so it
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looks pretty, and then stash your clubs up
there for you in the beginning of the round.
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There is a lot of things that go into it that
people just don't understand.
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It it'd be like going out for a fucking nice
steak and and drinking and being like, oh, this
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meal cost me $200.
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I'm not fucking tipping the waitress.
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Like, that's what these dudes are working for.
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I mean, half the time, it's just above minimum
wage.
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Oh, that's the other thing.
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They're getting there at 3:45 in the morning in
the summertime, or they're there in the
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wintertime by 6:15, and it's fucking freezing
cold outside.
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They're pulling out all the cards.
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They're making sure everything's clean.
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Coolers are iced.
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They can't feel their fingers.
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They're dressed like Eskimos, and they're
making sure that when you show up from your
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little hungover Friday night, you got a
beautiful little place.
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They're grabbing your bag from you.
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And a little segue here.
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If you're gonna bring beer to the golf course,
don't bring more than, like, 5 because your
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bag's gonna be insanely heavy, and you look
like an even bigger cheap fuck.
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So that's all I'll say about that.
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R g m, I will just say this, used to have us
actually search people's bags.
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That's bold because you don't know.
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Like, you might find a gun.
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You might find an 8 ball of cocaine.
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You might find a dead midget arm.
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You don't know what's in this guy's golf bag.
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You don't know what kind of a night he had.
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So you do do
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It was exciting, though.
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You could get sued for that, maybe.
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No.
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Because they're on private property.
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Yeah.
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Pull that little midget arm out.
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The fuck is this?
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We caught a few dudes, but instead of kicking
them off, we just told them to politely put
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their beers back in their car.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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Come on, guys.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The best is when you're playing somewhere and
you're comped and people show up and do that
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shit.
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The least you can do is throw some throw a few
bucks towards food and beverage.
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Right?
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Like, you'll spend your money on beer there.
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Even if it's $6 a beer.
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Spot on.
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Spot on.
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That's all I have to say about that.
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What
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what a start to this episode on an off week too
because there is no golf this week, but there
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was golf this past weekend.
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So let's bring on our tour insider, mister BG
himself, Brent Grant.
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Brent Grant, every button.
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Woah.
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There he is.
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Look at him.
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Look at him.
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Got the Skokie going.
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Wow.
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Oh, I love I love this new camera view.
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You look like the nose gunner in a b 52 right
now.
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Holy cow.
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You know, just wrecking the folds of honor, you
know.
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Got my America.
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My microphone.
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America.
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We're
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in it tonight, boys.
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How are we doing?
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Oh, we're doing great.
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You're a little quiet there, Brent.
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Am I a little quiet?
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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We can we can buckle up on our end.
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You're fine.
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You say.
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It's right next to my place holes.
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Yeah.
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You're fine.
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We're not Jake on
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the back here.
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He's gonna
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turn me around.
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He's got you.
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I
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can sense it.
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He's he's locked in.
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Your your microphone's so much better now ever
since we got you hooked up.
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I mean, my god.
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Look at you with the stogie too.
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Oh, dude.
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Always.
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Come on, guys.
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Man, fantastic stuff out of you.
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Butsy with the burps, you with the cigar, me
just trying to remain patient.
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And let's get right into the Zozo championship
recap, which is our we were very Asian this
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week when it came to golf.
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We were over in Japan for the Zozo
championship.
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That's cool.
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And, the winner, Nico Echeverria.
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Yes.
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I'm not Asian.
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Do you
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know that I actually studied how to pronounce
that?
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Is it Echeverria?
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That's
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interesting.
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Echeverria.
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Echeverria.
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Echevarria.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I had to listen to it at least 32 times.
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I liked when he called his parents.
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Yeah.
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That little segue.
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They stopped because he had to go talk to
sponsors.
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He was like and I didn't realize he was that
foreign.
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He's he's from Medellin.
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He's like,
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Ay he's like, Ay I decali.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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I have no idea what accent that was.
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It
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was it
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was not Colombian.
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Hey.
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Where is he?
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Yeah.
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It's a me.
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It's pretty
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cool.
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Let me.
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I'm alright.
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I'm a couple of beers.
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So
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yeah.
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But Nico ends up shooting 20 under to win.
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This is his 2nd career win and, he won the 2023
Puerto Rican open.
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So in back to back years, folks, we've got a
tour winner here.
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But this is obviously a much bigger event.
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It was a limited field.
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There was only, what, like, 80 players around
that number, this week, which it was very much
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kinda like one of those signature series events
in terms of the size of the field with no cut.
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And he was going up against, somebody in Justin
Thomas.
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Oh my god.
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The Lip Ripper.
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He
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folks, Justin Thomas should've won that golf
tournament by, like, 5 shots.
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Ask Brent if he knows what that's like.
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He saw the amount of lips Justin Thomas rolled
the ball over, and I know I could probably
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speak on Brent's behalf here.
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He knows that pain.
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Brent, tell us about it.
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What's it what's it feel like to basically hit
every green, give yourself about every single,
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every single birdie about 15 footer and not be
able to make a thing.
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Pretty close.
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You ever, you ever basically you know, I mean,
like, when you were 16, 17, 18, you know, your
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first girlfriend, you know, that's you know,
almost getting it in.
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That's basically what that feels like.
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And then just the
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the sheer
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disappointment, not even I like it's, you know,
just and then yeah.
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You know, that's basically what that feels
like.
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That was my game as well.
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I either made everything or I missed everything
and more so I missed everything.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's good thing you got a lab putter now.
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You make.
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Oh, wait.
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You know what, though?
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I'll tell
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you what right now there, Brent, you missed it.
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Alright.
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He's
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We we can't we
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we can't talk about this right
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now.
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No.
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But I will just say there might be a blade back
in the bag.
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Oh, well.
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And 2 seconds after that, our our
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amazing my body.
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Our amazing, simulator No.
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You know what's funny is, and I will just say
this.
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We were filming, and I'm, like, I really wanna
have my cool putter cover back on, which is a
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Michael Jordan shoe.
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Absolutely.
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And sure enough, I, threw the blade back in for
that reason, then I was, like, woah, this feels
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pretty damn good.
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But you did say something to me on the episode
before I, pulled out the blade.
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You were like, yeah, you take it outside and
cut across it.
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I'm like, that's never been me.
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So I'm like, well, if I'm doing that, my fault
used to be pulling it too far back to the
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inside.
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Sure enough, it's pretty evened out right now
with the blade butter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Very sweet.
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You know,
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I've I've I've putted well enough and I've
putted poor enough to at least be able to tell
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somebody that.
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That's a good thing.
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But Yeah.
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I got a career
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Nothing against the lab putter.
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They it'll make reappearances.
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I am sure.
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It's a great company with, a lot of good
comments.
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I just I just wish they would be a little bit
more honest with with, what actually happens
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when you take the putter in your hands.
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But other than that, hey.
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I think I saw Fowler putt in a lot.
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You did.
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You did.
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Let's go back to Justin Thomas really quick
because him and Max Grazerman tied for 2nd at
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minus 19 under.
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Obviously, we're talking about it.
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JT's butter went absolutely cold.
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He could have won that tournament probably by 4
or 5 shots.
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I imagine if he made half of his pots that, he
should have made.
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And then sure enough, max grazer, man.
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God, he's been playing some good golf.
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He's right there
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the whole way.
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He just, he, he just barely missed a birdie
putt on the last to tie to go into a playoff
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with Nico.
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He played that par 5 18th really poorly.
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I didn't like the way he played it at all.
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Obviously a poor drive set him up to where he
had to lay up and then he pulled his approach
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shot and then just missed the birdie putt to
force the playoff.
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But he's been close a lot this year.
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Now he's got 4 top fives this year and 5 top
ten finishes in 2024.
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So my question to both of you, and I'll start
with you, Brent, is he do as far as a win on
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tour?
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And when he does, do you think he's gonna break
out?
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Do you think he's that kind of talent?
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's very good.
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I've known Max, a long time.
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We were on the Korn Ferry tour together for a
while.
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He's battled back, from some injuries, and and
he knows what it's like to be at the bottom of
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the barrel.
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So, the fact that he's he's kinda scraping
scraping the top, you know, he's just he's
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getting ready to bust out and and more power to
him.
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You know, just just just because I'd love to
see it.
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I think he's, he's definitely gonna be able to
win.
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I met him when I met you, I think.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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He looks like Timo Rory McElroy.
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I think I think Max Razorman is a very solid
golfer, and I think he's due for a win.
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I just don't know if he's the breakout talent
that some of these other guys are when they
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break through like a Wyndham Clark.
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What do
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you think, Bautzy?
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I think he is, man.
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Wow.
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I think he's learning how to, play some
extremely efficient golf on the PGA Tour.
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And, I think holding that trophy is gonna
change some things to get to the next level for
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him.
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I think he's knocking on the doorway too much
not to be close enough to go over the hump.
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You know?
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I mean, the 4 top fives is pretty impressive.
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He's hitting the shots.
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He's doing it week in and week out.
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Like yeah.
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And and I think once he proves to himself that
he can get it done, all bets are off.
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What when you say when you say breakout talent
like Wyndham Clark, do you mean, like, as in
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winning big events?
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Yeah.
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Like, early on and or Breakout.
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I mean So after you
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you saw with Wyndham to where when Wyndham won
the Wyndham championship, ironically enough, he
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ended up you saw the confidence just oozing,
and then he rattled off another win.
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He ends up getting into the top ten, in in
terms of top 10 players in the world, wins a
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major, obviously, l a c c with the US Open.
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I mean, he kinda went in that path.
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And that's what we kinda look for are these
guys that are so damn good.
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And then all of a sudden, they have that big
breakthrough moment and the confidence soars,
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and all of a sudden, there's nothing to stop
them.
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Kinda like a Ludwig Oberg a little bit, I feel
like.
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But obviously, not the same talent, I feel
like.
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But I'm saying when all of a sudden a guy wins
like that and starts to soar and has a ton of
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confidence, I just don't know if Max Grazerman
is that big of a talent, if that
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makes sense.
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He's I mean, I I totally yeah.
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I think that's that's kinda what it is.
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Right?
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I mean, we gotta be realistic.
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I mean, we talk about this every week.
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Right?
501
00:18:56,105 --> 00:19:02,059
So, you know, the the thing is is is what are
we expecting, from these guys?
502
00:19:02,059 --> 00:19:06,220
Are we are we just waiting kind of for for the
next big name to come out?
503
00:19:06,220 --> 00:19:13,580
And I think, honestly, what we're gonna see
until 2026 anyways is what we're gonna see is a
504
00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:15,039
lot more guys winning.
505
00:19:15,805 --> 00:19:20,125
Specifically, I mean, if you if you think about
it, I mean, Scottie Scottie won everything this
506
00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:24,945
year, and there was there was not much left for
not much left for anybody else.
507
00:19:26,045 --> 00:19:30,990
But aside from that, it's pretty clear that
that when he's not playing when Scottie's not
508
00:19:30,990 --> 00:19:34,430
playing, there are there's a plethora of
different guys that are winning all, you know,
509
00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:38,990
guys from, you know, the veteran category all
the way to, you know, a guy like Gracement
510
00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:39,789
who's a rookie.
511
00:19:39,789 --> 00:19:44,865
So, you know, he hits a little he hits a little
good long way, and he's got a steady steady
512
00:19:44,865 --> 00:19:46,464
family, steady team behind him.
513
00:19:46,704 --> 00:19:49,365
Do I think that he's a he's a major winning
potential?
514
00:19:50,704 --> 00:19:53,105
That's that's a different that's a different
thing, and I don't
515
00:19:53,105 --> 00:19:53,545
think so.
516
00:19:53,664 --> 00:19:54,404
In any area?
517
00:19:55,585 --> 00:19:56,384
He's a good putter.
518
00:19:56,384 --> 00:19:58,259
His short game is very, very, very solid.
519
00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:02,420
I wouldn't say he's he's a great driver of the
golf ball, but he gets it out there long
520
00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:02,920
enough.
521
00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:07,880
And then, like I said, I mean, his anything
inside 160 is usually pretty solid.
522
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:08,440
Okay.
523
00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:13,444
But, yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's a tough
thing to be to be a major winner on the PGA
524
00:20:13,444 --> 00:20:13,605
Tour.
525
00:20:13,605 --> 00:20:18,724
And, unfortunately, when you win for the first
time, it's it's, on any level, it's easier to
526
00:20:18,724 --> 00:20:19,125
do it.
527
00:20:19,125 --> 00:20:21,365
It's it's harder to do it the second time.
528
00:20:21,365 --> 00:20:27,069
I think he's very consistent, and I think that
is the skill set that is going to help him
529
00:20:27,069 --> 00:20:31,230
differentiate himself, but I don't see him
winning multiple times every single year.
530
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:31,549
I just
531
00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:32,509
Is he the next Joel?
532
00:20:32,509 --> 00:20:35,470
I don't think he's is he that guy?
533
00:20:35,470 --> 00:20:35,630
No.
534
00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:36,630
I think he's better than Joel.
535
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:37,875
Better than Joel as well.
536
00:20:38,115 --> 00:20:40,035
And he's got a better mindset than Joel.
537
00:20:40,035 --> 00:20:43,795
He's he's choked under pressure, but he's
learned from it, and he's gotten better.
538
00:20:43,795 --> 00:20:49,315
Like, each time that he's lost, it it's been,
like, a better loss, I feel like.
539
00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:50,035
Is he Scott
540
00:20:50,035 --> 00:20:51,095
Stallings then?
541
00:20:52,259 --> 00:20:52,759
Stallings.
542
00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:54,180
The difference the difference is
543
00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,080
hung around last year, like, every fucking
event.
544
00:20:57,460 --> 00:20:57,779
Yeah.
545
00:20:57,779 --> 00:20:58,100
Yeah.
546
00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:01,299
He's been that way for he's I mean, Stallings
is a is a yeah.
547
00:21:01,299 --> 00:21:04,340
Joel Joel is kind of a lower a lower yeah.
548
00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:05,384
Big CrossFit guy.
549
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:07,805
Like, he's like a lower level.
550
00:21:07,865 --> 00:21:08,825
He's a big boy.
551
00:21:08,825 --> 00:21:10,045
He's a big boy.
552
00:21:10,265 --> 00:21:11,224
Looks like a linebacker.
553
00:21:11,305 --> 00:21:11,805
Guy.
554
00:21:12,025 --> 00:21:12,345
Nah.
555
00:21:12,345 --> 00:21:13,384
He's not that big.
556
00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:13,884
But
557
00:21:14,744 --> 00:21:15,884
That's his line.
558
00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:17,400
Have you seen a linebacker?
559
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,519
Yeah.
560
00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:19,720
It's not Scott Stallings.
561
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,119
Oh, it's
562
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,820
the I was going for the dramatic effect there
but got shut down immediately.
563
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,619
Yeah.
564
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,820
That's what it's saying.
565
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,500
There it is.
566
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,440
Just waiting for the waiting for that.
567
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,400
But, but yeah.
568
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,640
No.
569
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,215
I mean, it's tough.
570
00:21:33,215 --> 00:21:33,455
Right?
571
00:21:33,455 --> 00:21:35,535
Because what we're talking about is levels of
players.
572
00:21:35,535 --> 00:21:43,134
I mean, how many guys do you think fit in the
category of an ATM, but maybe don't have the 1
573
00:21:43,134 --> 00:21:47,569
to 2 to 3 win, years kinda like consistently.
574
00:21:47,789 --> 00:21:50,029
How many guys do you guys think that they're
they're like that?
575
00:21:50,029 --> 00:21:54,509
I mean, it seems like there's more guys that
are just ATMs than there are that that win You
576
00:21:54,509 --> 00:21:58,509
mean just consistently played well enough to
make a check type?
577
00:21:58,509 --> 00:21:59,009
Yeah.
578
00:21:59,355 --> 00:21:59,755
Yeah.
579
00:21:59,755 --> 00:22:00,255
Yeah.
580
00:22:00,315 --> 00:22:01,434
I mean, I don't know.
581
00:22:01,434 --> 00:22:07,035
Like, I think most of those guys could be
breakout talents if they ever got that one
582
00:22:07,035 --> 00:22:08,255
notch under their belt.
583
00:22:08,795 --> 00:22:10,315
I feel like and I haven't been there.
584
00:22:10,315 --> 00:22:11,035
I know you have.
585
00:22:11,035 --> 00:22:13,275
You've won before at a professional level.
586
00:22:13,275 --> 00:22:17,500
I I mean, I watched you win on the Korn Ferry
tour, and I saw the fist pump.
587
00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:20,220
I mean, your arm turned into a rocked out
boner.
588
00:22:20,220 --> 00:22:23,679
Like, I've never seen that level of excitement
before.
589
00:22:24,059 --> 00:22:25,259
What did you just call him?
590
00:22:25,259 --> 00:22:26,399
A rocked out boner?
591
00:22:26,539 --> 00:22:26,940
Yeah.
592
00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:28,059
Like, dog's bone.
593
00:22:28,059 --> 00:22:28,220
No.
594
00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:29,579
I don't know what you're talking about.
595
00:22:29,579 --> 00:22:30,079
Yeah.
596
00:22:30,304 --> 00:22:31,204
Fucking weirdo.
597
00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:36,944
And with the sound, we're going to go straight
598
00:22:36,944 --> 00:22:37,505
to that train
599
00:22:37,505 --> 00:22:37,904
of thought.
600
00:22:37,904 --> 00:22:42,544
Just that train of thought is gone.
601
00:22:42,544 --> 00:22:44,005
So let's move on.
602
00:22:44,419 --> 00:22:45,220
Moving on.
603
00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:46,119
Moving on.
604
00:22:46,419 --> 00:22:51,460
Now let's go through a quick, leaderboard
rundown here because, in 4th place, we had
605
00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:56,919
Ricky Fowler, the return of Ricky Fowler and a
lab golf putter, folks.
606
00:22:58,205 --> 00:23:00,065
Lab golf putter.
607
00:23:01,404 --> 00:23:02,525
That was big for them.
608
00:23:02,525 --> 00:23:02,924
Yeah?
609
00:23:02,924 --> 00:23:03,164
Yeah.
610
00:23:03,164 --> 00:23:04,365
A lot of people saw that.
611
00:23:04,365 --> 00:23:04,684
Yeah.
612
00:23:04,684 --> 00:23:04,924
Yeah.
613
00:23:04,924 --> 00:23:05,424
Yeah.
614
00:23:06,845 --> 00:23:09,585
5th place, Kurt Kitiyama.
615
00:23:14,509 --> 00:23:16,210
Oh, great player.
616
00:23:16,349 --> 00:23:17,070
Great player.
617
00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:18,690
Great player that Kurt Kitiyama.
618
00:23:19,309 --> 00:23:22,130
Now t 6th, we've got, JJSpawn.
619
00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:23,970
But he loves JJSpawn.
620
00:23:24,884 --> 00:23:26,244
I I do.
621
00:23:26,244 --> 00:23:27,045
I really do.
622
00:23:27,045 --> 00:23:28,825
Then you got Yuta Sagara.
623
00:23:29,525 --> 00:23:30,484
I don't know who that is.
624
00:23:30,484 --> 00:23:31,144
From Japan.
625
00:23:31,205 --> 00:23:31,705
Sugi.
626
00:23:31,924 --> 00:23:33,125
Didn't know that either.
627
00:23:33,125 --> 00:23:33,605
He didn't know.
628
00:23:33,605 --> 00:23:34,904
It's not Sugi.
629
00:23:35,525 --> 00:23:35,765
Yeah.
630
00:23:35,765 --> 00:23:36,244
Well, yeah.
631
00:23:36,244 --> 00:23:36,404
S
632
00:23:36,565 --> 00:23:36,884
Oh, no.
633
00:23:36,884 --> 00:23:37,285
It is.
634
00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:37,605
I'm sorry.
635
00:23:37,605 --> 00:23:39,125
I was looking at the first name, Yuta.
636
00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,500
I'm like, that's not Suki.
637
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:40,900
Yuta?
638
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:41,299
Yuta.
639
00:23:41,299 --> 00:23:41,799
Yuta.
640
00:23:42,580 --> 00:23:42,740
K.
641
00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:45,880
And then we got Seewook Kim, player's champ,
bro.
642
00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:46,519
Kim.
643
00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:47,299
I
644
00:23:47,299 --> 00:23:51,539
was I in the middle of saying his name, I was
about to say player's champ, and then it just
645
00:23:51,539 --> 00:23:51,940
got It's
646
00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:52,259
prayers.
647
00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:53,565
It's pronounced prayer's champ.
648
00:23:53,644 --> 00:23:54,845
It's a prayer's champ, bro.
649
00:23:54,845 --> 00:23:55,085
Okay.
650
00:23:55,325 --> 00:23:56,144
Champ, folks.
651
00:23:57,085 --> 00:24:00,464
Also, we've got Eric Cole, CT Pan.
652
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:02,924
Those are all t sixes.
653
00:24:02,924 --> 00:24:08,625
Then we got t elevens at Taylor Moore was, in
11th as well.
654
00:24:10,179 --> 00:24:10,679
K.
655
00:24:10,899 --> 00:24:13,000
Genesis Genesis championship.
656
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:15,619
Oh, can we can we can I ask you a question?
657
00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:16,099
I I
658
00:24:16,099 --> 00:24:17,240
I'm just always curious.
659
00:24:17,779 --> 00:24:18,259
That's fine.
660
00:24:18,259 --> 00:24:19,399
I'm gonna ask it anyway.
661
00:24:21,384 --> 00:24:23,304
What do you guys think about these events?
662
00:24:23,304 --> 00:24:30,904
Do we do do you feel like they're just sort of,
they exist and, you know, kinda if they if they
663
00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:31,865
don't exist, okay.
664
00:24:31,865 --> 00:24:32,184
Great.
665
00:24:32,184 --> 00:24:37,309
If how do you feel about these events as as
onlookers of the tour?
666
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:38,130
What do you mean?
667
00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:43,549
Like, if the tournament didn't exist, would it
really matter to you?
668
00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:46,269
If the bear shits in the woods, does it smell?
669
00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:47,070
Tree fall in the woods.
670
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:47,630
Nobody's around.
671
00:24:47,789 --> 00:24:48,509
Really fallen.
672
00:24:48,509 --> 00:24:49,230
You know what I mean?
673
00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:49,470
Like, you can't
674
00:24:49,630 --> 00:24:50,670
I'm just always curious
675
00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:53,965
because, I mean, it's it's crazy that it's
crazy that we have these events
676
00:24:53,965 --> 00:24:54,644
that really feel.
677
00:24:54,765 --> 00:24:57,404
Really nobody watches, and yet we continue to
put them on.
678
00:24:57,404 --> 00:24:58,384
But you know?
679
00:24:59,005 --> 00:24:59,644
Oh, yeah.
680
00:24:59,644 --> 00:25:00,605
I love the Zozo.
681
00:25:00,605 --> 00:25:02,845
I think it's got a lot of heritage behind it.
682
00:25:02,845 --> 00:25:03,244
You know?
683
00:25:03,244 --> 00:25:05,244
It's a gorgeous golf course in China.
684
00:25:05,244 --> 00:25:05,940
Just kidding.
685
00:25:08,259 --> 00:25:09,059
Did you know China
686
00:25:09,059 --> 00:25:09,539
and Japan?
687
00:25:09,539 --> 00:25:10,519
Tiger 1 there.
688
00:25:10,579 --> 00:25:11,559
I I think yeah.
689
00:25:12,019 --> 00:25:13,299
I was stoked about it.
690
00:25:13,299 --> 00:25:17,960
I watched almost none of it, but it's a great
event.
691
00:25:18,365 --> 00:25:19,005
Great event.
692
00:25:19,005 --> 00:25:19,325
No.
693
00:25:19,325 --> 00:25:21,884
That's also I don't mind this also.
694
00:25:21,884 --> 00:25:23,265
It's just a weird placement.
695
00:25:23,805 --> 00:25:24,684
You know what I'm saying?
696
00:25:24,684 --> 00:25:26,144
Like, it's it's weird.
697
00:25:26,445 --> 00:25:33,070
So they do it, in my opinion, because of the
long travel and because the top guys aren't
698
00:25:33,070 --> 00:25:35,490
really playing the week before the week after.
699
00:25:35,789 --> 00:25:36,269
Right?
700
00:25:36,269 --> 00:25:43,070
This season is kind of the journeyman season or
the young rookies getting an opportunity to try
701
00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:45,650
to win when all the big names aren't playing in
tournaments.
702
00:25:46,054 --> 00:25:51,095
And the Zozo just kinda pops in at this really
odd moment, and we don't even have a tournament
703
00:25:51,095 --> 00:25:52,134
this week because of it.
704
00:25:52,134 --> 00:25:53,115
What is Zozo?
705
00:25:53,734 --> 00:25:54,775
It is a sponsor.
706
00:25:54,775 --> 00:25:56,134
So it is a I know that.
707
00:25:56,294 --> 00:25:57,355
Japanese company.
708
00:25:57,414 --> 00:25:59,194
I thought it was a fruit.
709
00:25:59,734 --> 00:26:00,234
Yeah.
710
00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:02,119
Thought it was a Japanese fruit.
711
00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:05,559
We're super informed on this podcast, ladies
and gentlemen.
712
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:06,420
Zozo no.
713
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:06,920
Zozo.
714
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:11,720
Zozo for sure is a sponsor.
715
00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:13,720
Like, it's a it's a company in Japan.
716
00:26:13,779 --> 00:26:15,045
But what did I do?
717
00:26:15,045 --> 00:26:16,664
I don't know.
718
00:26:18,005 --> 00:26:19,365
We're moving into the Genesis.
719
00:26:19,365 --> 00:26:21,525
We know what the gen what Genesis is.
720
00:26:21,525 --> 00:26:21,845
Right?
721
00:26:21,845 --> 00:26:23,765
With the it's it's Hyundai's
722
00:26:23,924 --> 00:26:24,984
First book in the Bible.
723
00:26:26,644 --> 00:26:27,269
Oh, boy.
724
00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:27,910
Sorry.
725
00:26:27,910 --> 00:26:28,230
You can
726
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:29,830
This one took place in South Korea.
727
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:33,430
Like I said, this was a very Asian weekend in
professional golf.
728
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:35,930
I don't know how I'm not just dying laughing
right now.
729
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:40,009
So we've got Ben On who was the winner of the
Genesis championship.
730
00:26:40,654 --> 00:26:42,115
Good old Ben On.
731
00:26:43,934 --> 00:26:52,115
And he finished the 17 under a playoff win over
none other than fellow South Korean, Tom Kim.
732
00:26:53,009 --> 00:26:53,509
Okay.
733
00:26:53,730 --> 00:26:54,710
Tom Kim.
734
00:26:55,009 --> 00:26:57,509
Now we'll we'll get into his antics in a
minute.
735
00:26:58,049 --> 00:26:58,210
Oh,
736
00:26:58,210 --> 00:26:58,450
no.
737
00:26:58,450 --> 00:26:59,349
He lives out.
738
00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:03,089
He lives out on the 18th hole in regulation for
the win.
739
00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:03,589
K?
740
00:27:04,769 --> 00:27:06,150
That's not the bad part.
741
00:27:07,384 --> 00:27:12,984
He then struggles on that same hole, the 18th
hole in the playoff and ends up making a bogey
742
00:27:12,984 --> 00:27:15,884
and just to handing the victory over to Ben on.
743
00:27:16,664 --> 00:27:20,444
So Tom Kim really lost this golf tournament in
my opinion.
744
00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:29,570
However, Tom Kim had himself a little bit of a
temper tantrum and just depending on which,
745
00:27:30,029 --> 00:27:36,125
which source you're going off of media sources
are saying that he threw a temper tantrum and
746
00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:38,065
ripped a locker room door.
747
00:27:38,125 --> 00:27:40,065
Oh, I read all about this.
748
00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:45,404
Then Tom cam, if you listen to his camp, came
out with the statement, said, no, he did not
749
00:27:45,404 --> 00:27:46,545
have a temper tantrum.
750
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:51,759
Hit the door was stuck and they had to rip it
off in order to get his stuff out.
751
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:57,619
And so he offered to pay DP world tour in the
course for any damages and so forth.
752
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:06,575
So I ask you, but see to begin with, what do
you think really happened in that locker room?
753
00:28:06,575 --> 00:28:07,454
I'm gonna tell you what happened.
754
00:28:07,615 --> 00:28:08,414
Picture for us.
755
00:28:08,414 --> 00:28:08,815
Paint the picture.
756
00:28:08,815 --> 00:28:09,615
Here's what happened.
757
00:28:09,615 --> 00:28:09,934
Come on.
758
00:28:09,934 --> 00:28:13,855
You ever see one of those karate tournaments
where
759
00:28:13,855 --> 00:28:14,734
the Like karate can?
760
00:28:14,734 --> 00:28:15,534
Where the dude no.
761
00:28:15,534 --> 00:28:21,960
I'm talking like, like a skills challenge where
the sensei holds out one of those boards like
762
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,460
this.
763
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,279
Oh, and you gotta punch through it.
764
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:24,519
No.
765
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,820
I think Tom Kim just fucking head butted right
through it.
766
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,954
I think he fucking head butted his locker right
in half.
767
00:28:30,954 --> 00:28:31,835
Full on send.
768
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:32,335
Right?
769
00:28:32,394 --> 00:28:33,115
Full set.
770
00:28:33,115 --> 00:28:33,615
We
771
00:28:34,075 --> 00:28:35,134
had no choice.
772
00:28:36,154 --> 00:28:36,794
Oh, dang.
773
00:28:36,794 --> 00:28:38,554
Then he had a flashback of the president's cup.
774
00:28:38,554 --> 00:28:39,355
They didn't give him that putt.
775
00:28:39,355 --> 00:28:40,414
He was like, oh.
776
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:49,460
I think that I think that's exactly what
happened.
777
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,119
Sorry.
778
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,119
We're getting a couple of sodas going here.
779
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:54,319
So Tom Kim.
780
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:54,819
Yeah.
781
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,934
And the thing is with Tom Kim, the question
that I have for you, Brent, does he have a
782
00:29:00,934 --> 00:29:02,555
maturity problem right now?
783
00:29:04,775 --> 00:29:05,994
Tom Kim, a bitch.
784
00:29:07,894 --> 00:29:08,615
Tom, bitch.
785
00:29:08,615 --> 00:29:09,919
I have a maturity problem.
786
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:10,240
New name.
787
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,039
Like, think about it.
788
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,179
When he came out onto the tour, he was very
well spoken.
789
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:23,039
He was very like, it wasn't this kinda at like
he didn't have an attitude behind him.
790
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:23,835
He was kinda funny.
791
00:29:23,835 --> 00:29:25,115
Everybody loved him.
792
00:29:25,115 --> 00:29:26,494
He was like, sweetheart.
793
00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:28,554
It like everybody loved this guy.
794
00:29:28,554 --> 00:29:29,034
Right?
795
00:29:29,034 --> 00:29:32,474
The media just ate him up because they're like,
oh, this kid's the sweetest kid.
796
00:29:32,474 --> 00:29:37,769
Now we're starting to see some of these things
take place after the president's cup, after
797
00:29:37,769 --> 00:29:42,990
whining and literally ratting out the US team
for swearing at him and stuff like that.
798
00:29:43,369 --> 00:29:47,630
We're starting to see this, the real side to
Tom Kim.
799
00:29:48,105 --> 00:29:54,984
And the big question is, is he maturing in
front of our eyes?
800
00:29:54,984 --> 00:29:57,164
Like, is he learning through the immaturity?
801
00:29:59,865 --> 00:30:06,539
I mean, he's kind of progressed based on based
on what you just said, but I think, Tom Kim is
802
00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:13,980
a Tom Kim is a great product of somebody that
has taken the pampering and the kind of gold
803
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:15,434
spoon that he's been given.
804
00:30:16,715 --> 00:30:19,355
And and then in some case I mean, in some
cases, earned.
805
00:30:19,355 --> 00:30:22,414
Obviously, he's won multiple times, and he's a
great player.
806
00:30:23,275 --> 00:30:28,634
But it's pretty clear that, he he is very
immature, but at the same time, he's also been
807
00:30:28,634 --> 00:30:30,119
pampered drastically.
808
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,599
So when he doesn't get his way, you know, he's
gonna show that emotion.
809
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:40,759
And I think that a lot of the other a lot of
the other guys have become so PC and are are
810
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:46,365
somewhat robotic that that they never even get
get themselves in a situation where they're
811
00:30:46,365 --> 00:30:47,644
gonna show that kind of emotion.
812
00:30:47,644 --> 00:30:49,164
Tom Kim is 22 years old.
813
00:30:49,164 --> 00:30:52,605
Wouldn't it just be cooler if you just didn't
even leave anything to thought, though, and
814
00:30:52,605 --> 00:30:53,085
just say, yeah.
815
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:54,205
I got fucking pissed.
816
00:30:54,205 --> 00:30:55,244
I really feel bad about it.
817
00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:57,184
I fucking head butted through the locker.
818
00:30:57,529 --> 00:30:57,690
Yeah.
819
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:58,329
But nobody
820
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:59,690
I I mean I don't do this.
821
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:00,329
I don't do this thing.
822
00:31:00,329 --> 00:31:00,909
I apologize.
823
00:31:00,970 --> 00:31:02,909
I'm but I'm that hard.
824
00:31:04,169 --> 00:31:06,809
I think it's dumb to be many guys sorry, Mac.
825
00:31:06,809 --> 00:31:07,369
Go ahead.
826
00:31:07,369 --> 00:31:14,515
I was just gonna say it it's gotta be tough to
be his age and going through some of this to
827
00:31:14,515 --> 00:31:15,734
where I think you were right.
828
00:31:16,115 --> 00:31:22,755
I think you hit the nail on the head that he's
been kind of given the golden spoon by the PGA
829
00:31:22,755 --> 00:31:24,775
Tour, by the media, by everybody.
830
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:30,049
And it can make you a little bit entitled, and
it can make you certainly feel like, oh, I can
831
00:31:30,049 --> 00:31:35,170
do anything I wanna do and kinda makes you kind
of into a little bit of a spoiled brat in some
832
00:31:35,170 --> 00:31:35,670
ways.
833
00:31:35,809 --> 00:31:41,065
But I do think that he is going through that
immaturity right in front of our eyes as a very
834
00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:41,884
young kid.
835
00:31:42,424 --> 00:31:47,305
And it's just something that a lot of guys
aren't necessarily used to.
836
00:31:47,305 --> 00:31:52,240
And I don't know if his team has really prepped
him in order to be ready for this, but we're
837
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,759
kind of seeing it right in very front of us.
838
00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:00,640
And we've seen it with celebrities like child
actors and so forth that start acting out and
839
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,039
everything.
840
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:02,720
And it's like, he didn't get his way.
841
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,984
He didn't win the golf tournament the way that
he wanted to.
842
00:32:06,224 --> 00:32:09,105
And all of a sudden, he goes in and breaks a
locker room door.
843
00:32:09,105 --> 00:32:11,845
Look what happened to Macaulay Culkin after
Home Alone.
844
00:32:11,984 --> 00:32:12,144
Yeah.
845
00:32:12,144 --> 00:32:13,125
Macaulay Culkin.
846
00:32:13,585 --> 00:32:14,884
Michael Michael Jackson.
847
00:32:17,025 --> 00:32:17,105
Oh.
848
00:32:17,105 --> 00:32:17,605
Wow.
849
00:32:17,664 --> 00:32:23,180
I mean, you look at all these kids that had to
grow up in front of the media, and it doesn't
850
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:24,480
turn out well often.
851
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:26,859
Yeah.
852
00:32:26,859 --> 00:32:29,660
I mean, I don't I I fully I fully agree with
you.
853
00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:35,325
I mean, I think part of the problem here is is
that it it's it not only sets a poor example,
854
00:32:36,265 --> 00:32:39,545
but kinda like what we were talking about a
couple of weeks ago with regards to the
855
00:32:39,545 --> 00:32:41,485
standards that we hold these guys to.
856
00:32:42,184 --> 00:32:46,424
The pure and simple point is is that he's 22,
23 years old.
857
00:32:46,424 --> 00:32:47,884
He's a multimillionaire.
858
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,960
He's been virtually given everything in his
entire life anyways, which is why he's able to
859
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,859
do what he does.
860
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,220
And now he's at a point where he may or may not
believe that he should be held accountable.
861
00:33:00,674 --> 00:33:02,515
And It's a lot of responsibility What are you
862
00:33:02,515 --> 00:33:02,995
gonna be?
863
00:33:03,154 --> 00:33:04,434
That rich and that young Yeah.
864
00:33:04,515 --> 00:33:05,634
And in the last No.
865
00:33:05,634 --> 00:33:06,595
Boo fucking hoo.
866
00:33:06,595 --> 00:33:07,735
It's so much responsibility.
867
00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:09,575
Boo hoo.
868
00:33:09,634 --> 00:33:10,455
I mean, imagine.
869
00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,195
Oh, I couldn't imagine if I was.
870
00:33:12,195 --> 00:33:14,759
I bet nobody knows who the fuck Tom Kim is,
though.
871
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:15,080
I would have
872
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,559
been a disaster.
873
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:16,359
Star.
874
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:17,480
Nobody knows who that is.
875
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:17,980
Yeah.
876
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:18,759
You think Oh,
877
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:19,400
of course not.
878
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,839
You might Nobody else got a dog.
879
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Tom Kim in street clothes if he was buying
bacon.
880
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320
I would, but I'm a die hard golf fan.
881
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,039
So it's like
882
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,855
I think I'd be like, that guy kinda
883
00:33:28,015 --> 00:33:28,494
I don't know.
884
00:33:28,494 --> 00:33:29,615
Like, I cover the damn sport.
885
00:33:29,615 --> 00:33:32,194
Of course, I'm gonna know what Tom Kim looks
like in person.
886
00:33:32,654 --> 00:33:35,795
Are you in San Francisco in Koreatown or, like,
887
00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:36,815
No.
888
00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:37,615
Good old k town.
889
00:33:37,615 --> 00:33:39,554
Middle of the street in Omaha, Nebraska?
890
00:33:40,589 --> 00:33:41,150
I do.
891
00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:43,470
I do love a good karaoke in a k ten, for sure.
892
00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:44,769
I don't
893
00:33:45,069 --> 00:33:45,569
know.
894
00:33:45,869 --> 00:33:46,190
Mhmm.
895
00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:49,410
Because so I saw it is pain risk.
896
00:33:50,109 --> 00:33:51,970
It brings so many changes.
897
00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:52,990
I think
898
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:54,210
that common in San Diego.
899
00:33:55,390 --> 00:33:55,934
If I
900
00:33:58,095 --> 00:33:58,335
breathe.
901
00:33:58,335 --> 00:34:00,095
That was money.
902
00:34:00,095 --> 00:34:01,215
Money right there.
903
00:34:01,215 --> 00:34:04,095
I don't know if you understood, Brent, what you
just witnessed.
904
00:34:04,095 --> 00:34:05,875
That was just greatness right there.
905
00:34:05,934 --> 00:34:08,275
I watched you both just bobbing back and forth.
906
00:34:08,335 --> 00:34:09,155
Thank you.
907
00:34:11,769 --> 00:34:11,929
I'm
908
00:34:11,929 --> 00:34:13,769
kinda distracted, honestly.
909
00:34:13,769 --> 00:34:16,969
I'm distracted by the rosy cheeks that I
haven't seen in quite some time.
910
00:34:16,969 --> 00:34:21,130
But he's had a beard for so long that, you
know, I just haven't seen his cheeks, and now
911
00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:22,829
he's just he looks like a young man.
912
00:34:23,065 --> 00:34:23,864
Young bull.
913
00:34:23,864 --> 00:34:25,224
I couldn't take it all off.
914
00:34:25,224 --> 00:34:26,744
My jaw was non existent.
915
00:34:26,744 --> 00:34:27,625
I was like, fuck.
916
00:34:27,625 --> 00:34:30,684
You start proving to lose more according to Joe
Rogan.
917
00:34:31,945 --> 00:34:34,585
Let let let's move it past good old Tom Kim.
918
00:34:34,664 --> 00:34:35,159
Jaw.
919
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,119
Yeah.
920
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,980
Let's do the serious stuff.
921
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:42,280
I'm gonna skip the leaderboard rundown since I
don't recognize a single fucking name on this
922
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,099
entire list.
923
00:34:43,319 --> 00:34:52,075
We got Ricardo Gouvea, Antoine Rosner, who's
French, Guido Miglosi, which is Italian.
924
00:34:52,075 --> 00:34:52,875
His name is Guido.
925
00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:53,375
Guido.
926
00:34:54,075 --> 00:34:56,974
Ivan Cantero, which is Spanish.
927
00:34:57,035 --> 00:35:01,055
You got, Casey Harvest, which is, good old
Russian.
928
00:35:01,275 --> 00:35:04,769
We've got Francesca Laporta, which is Italian.
929
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:06,369
Oh, so we're going over this now.
930
00:35:06,369 --> 00:35:07,809
Well, I'm just saying the names.
931
00:35:07,809 --> 00:35:12,050
The only one that I actually know is Nikolai
Hozhgarden Mhmm.
932
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:14,949
Who finished, in the top 10 yet again.
933
00:35:16,065 --> 00:35:16,565
Showing
934
00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:17,425
signs.
935
00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:18,644
Dude, Nikolai Hoskinson.
936
00:35:19,425 --> 00:35:20,464
Next breakout player.
937
00:35:20,464 --> 00:35:21,445
Him and his brother.
938
00:35:21,505 --> 00:35:22,964
They're twin brothers, dude.
939
00:35:23,344 --> 00:35:23,744
Nope.
940
00:35:23,744 --> 00:35:24,804
Dude, they're good.
941
00:35:25,025 --> 00:35:25,525
Identical.
942
00:35:25,905 --> 00:35:26,405
Brent,
943
00:35:26,704 --> 00:35:32,190
I'm I'm going to call you out on this one
because these guys can play some golf.
944
00:35:32,650 --> 00:35:36,250
Nikolai and Rasmus, those guys can play.
945
00:35:36,250 --> 00:35:40,250
Are we gonna see Brent contending at the Zozo
next year?
946
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:41,610
We certainly hope so.
947
00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:44,090
We hope he gets into the top 5 accused.
948
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:44,730
Gets in there.
949
00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:45,849
I'm flying to Japan.
950
00:35:45,849 --> 00:35:46,605
Me too.
951
00:35:46,605 --> 00:35:47,565
We're gonna be there.
952
00:35:47,565 --> 00:35:48,045
Me too.
953
00:35:48,045 --> 00:35:48,605
Oh, yeah.
954
00:35:48,605 --> 00:35:51,425
And we will wear traditional attire.
955
00:35:51,485 --> 00:35:51,985
Absolutely.
956
00:35:52,445 --> 00:35:53,085
I'll jump
957
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:53,324
in the
958
00:35:53,324 --> 00:35:57,425
lake and fucking row down that stream on a
chopstick right where I'm coming.
959
00:35:58,284 --> 00:35:59,664
Man, that would be great.
960
00:36:00,099 --> 00:36:01,079
That'd be fantastic.
961
00:36:01,139 --> 00:36:02,260
We're rooting for you, Brent.
962
00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:03,539
We're rooting for you.
963
00:36:03,539 --> 00:36:03,859
K?
964
00:36:03,859 --> 00:36:04,139
That's why
965
00:36:04,139 --> 00:36:06,500
I wore the sunglasses because I can just kinda,
like,
966
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:06,980
close the camera.
967
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:10,199
Back, relax, sleep like Ray Charles.
968
00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:12,760
Here we go.
969
00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:13,559
Watch out.
970
00:36:14,775 --> 00:36:16,454
Suwanee's style segment, everybody.
971
00:36:16,454 --> 00:36:17,494
We're moving right in.
972
00:36:17,494 --> 00:36:23,275
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973
00:36:23,734 --> 00:36:24,234
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977
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984
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,539
The swanee style segment, everybody.
985
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:16,204
And this one is going to go off of what
clothing for golf do you prefer?
986
00:37:16,424 --> 00:37:24,045
Are you an athletic fabric guy or more premium
fabrics like cotton, cashmere, etcetera?
987
00:37:24,105 --> 00:37:25,224
But see, we'll start with you.
988
00:37:25,224 --> 00:37:29,369
Everything I do is athletic, so I'd have to go
with that.
989
00:37:30,789 --> 00:37:31,929
I have to go with that.
990
00:37:32,309 --> 00:37:32,809
Sorry.
991
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:34,329
I'm sorry.
992
00:37:34,389 --> 00:37:34,889
Everything.
993
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:36,710
Dude, we got to quote this.
994
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:37,429
Everything okay with
995
00:37:37,429 --> 00:37:37,670
that?
996
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:40,630
Everything I do is athletic.
997
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:41,530
It is.
998
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:42,570
From the equipment.
999
00:37:42,755 --> 00:37:43,574
My cape.
1000
00:37:44,434 --> 00:37:45,335
How I walk.
1001
00:37:45,554 --> 00:37:45,954
I'm sorry.
1002
00:37:45,954 --> 00:37:46,515
Oh, boy.
1003
00:37:46,515 --> 00:37:48,994
The reactions from other people are what are
making me laugh.
1004
00:37:48,994 --> 00:37:51,494
I'm not laughing at your comment, Putsy.
1005
00:37:51,795 --> 00:37:55,494
I am laughing at everybody else's reaction to
your comment.
1006
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,079
I don't know why it's funny.
1007
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,160
I think that is the quote of the century right
there.
1008
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,579
Everything I do is athletic.
1009
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:03,179
Watch what happens.
1010
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,099
Man, that's good.
1011
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,780
Sorry.
1012
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:07,739
Sorry.
1013
00:38:08,054 --> 00:38:08,454
Since you're.
1014
00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:10,295
Some sort of a fucking joke here.
1015
00:38:10,295 --> 00:38:10,614
This is
1016
00:38:10,614 --> 00:38:11,514
not a joke.
1017
00:38:13,414 --> 00:38:15,835
I'm a laugh this hard since I was a little
girl.
1018
00:38:16,214 --> 00:38:16,934
Make me do it.
1019
00:38:16,934 --> 00:38:17,755
I'll do it.
1020
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:20,694
Got this.
1021
00:38:20,694 --> 00:38:21,014
A.
1022
00:38:21,014 --> 00:38:22,315
Jones for men, dude.
1023
00:38:24,590 --> 00:38:25,890
Brent, what about you?
1024
00:38:26,349 --> 00:38:27,410
Oh, sorry.
1025
00:38:28,030 --> 00:38:30,210
I didn't even feel like he answered the
question.
1026
00:38:31,789 --> 00:38:32,289
Shit.
1027
00:38:32,989 --> 00:38:36,610
I mean, are we talking about tops, pants,
shorts?
1028
00:38:37,125 --> 00:38:37,605
Everything.
1029
00:38:37,605 --> 00:38:39,204
Cashmere cashmere shorts.
1030
00:38:39,204 --> 00:38:41,284
Brick shops at that fucking Disney store.
1031
00:38:41,284 --> 00:38:42,744
I wear cashmere underwear.
1032
00:38:46,244 --> 00:38:48,565
You couldn't have said that with a straight
face feature.
1033
00:38:48,565 --> 00:38:49,065
Right?
1034
00:38:49,605 --> 00:38:50,244
Oh, man.
1035
00:38:50,244 --> 00:38:52,019
I wear goat leather underwear, but
1036
00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:53,559
That's gotta be rough.
1037
00:38:57,619 --> 00:38:58,280
The LDP.
1038
00:38:59,460 --> 00:38:59,960
LDP.
1039
00:39:00,099 --> 00:39:00,260
That's
1040
00:39:00,260 --> 00:39:01,140
what my mom used
1041
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:01,380
to say.
1042
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:01,539
Yeah.
1043
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:03,460
I mean, athletic athletic fabric
1044
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:04,280
for sure.
1045
00:39:05,324 --> 00:39:06,764
I like to be I like to be
1046
00:39:06,764 --> 00:39:08,844
feeling like you perform the athletic spot.
1047
00:39:08,844 --> 00:39:11,005
Well, so athletic for both of you.
1048
00:39:11,005 --> 00:39:12,525
I'm very surprised by this.
1049
00:39:12,525 --> 00:39:13,485
Maybe I'm just the Why
1050
00:39:13,485 --> 00:39:14,224
are you surprised?
1051
00:39:14,284 --> 00:39:18,945
Maybe I'm just the the bougie New Yorker that
loves a cashmere sweater.
1052
00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:26,070
I I actually really like the higher end lines
of, like, cotton polos and stuff like that,
1053
00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:34,075
which the new Black Swan collection by Swanies
has a brand new modal thread that I am
1054
00:39:34,075 --> 00:39:36,235
absolutely going to be in love with.
1055
00:39:36,235 --> 00:39:37,114
There's listen.
1056
00:39:37,114 --> 00:39:42,095
There's nothing better than a than a nice
fitting cashmere hoodie.
1057
00:39:42,715 --> 00:39:43,595
There's nothing better.
1058
00:39:43,595 --> 00:39:48,130
I don't think on, like, a 60, 65 degree day,
you know, bye, buddy.
1059
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:49,329
Have a nice night, buddy.
1060
00:39:49,329 --> 00:39:50,789
Where's the poor guy going?
1061
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:51,730
Oh, god.
1062
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:52,530
Here we go.
1063
00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:53,269
Oh, no.
1064
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:55,349
There you go.
1065
00:39:56,849 --> 00:39:58,390
Oh my gosh.
1066
00:39:59,445 --> 00:39:59,765
Who?
1067
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:00,644
There he is.
1068
00:40:00,644 --> 00:40:04,744
Who would have thought that this was under the
light?
1069
00:40:05,605 --> 00:40:05,684
Yeah.
1070
00:40:05,684 --> 00:40:06,184
Holy
1071
00:40:10,005 --> 00:40:10,505
shit.
1072
00:40:10,885 --> 00:40:12,570
Look at the size of those arms.
1073
00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:13,983
Holy shit.
1074
00:40:13,983 --> 00:40:14,882
Look at the size of those arms.
1075
00:40:14,882 --> 00:40:15,188
They're as big as my calves.
1076
00:40:15,188 --> 00:40:15,690
0% body fat.
1077
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:16,570
Or my thighs, I
1078
00:40:16,570 --> 00:40:18,570
should say.
1079
00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:19,690
Doing a little dance for us.
1080
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:20,510
Here we go.
1081
00:40:22,809 --> 00:40:24,430
Bring that in instead of.
1082
00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:27,550
Oh, I get it.
1083
00:40:28,284 --> 00:40:29,244
You gotta kiss him, dude.
1084
00:40:29,244 --> 00:40:30,364
Treat him right, though, bro.
1085
00:40:30,364 --> 00:40:32,304
Oh, my god.
1086
00:40:32,684 --> 00:40:33,565
What an accident.
1087
00:40:33,804 --> 00:40:34,304
Pussy?
1088
00:40:34,605 --> 00:40:34,925
No.
1089
00:40:34,925 --> 00:40:36,465
John Daly did it for him.
1090
00:40:38,525 --> 00:40:41,164
Something tells me I don't think John Daly
would be able to fit in
1091
00:40:41,164 --> 00:40:41,824
that shirt.
1092
00:40:42,045 --> 00:40:42,945
You guys okay?
1093
00:40:43,269 --> 00:40:45,130
I've never seen anything like this before.
1094
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:45,750
What do
1095
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:47,450
you shave your upper arms?
1096
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:48,170
No.
1097
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:50,869
That's my shirts are so tight.
1098
00:40:50,869 --> 00:40:51,829
They don't allow hair to
1099
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:52,329
grow.
1100
00:40:53,269 --> 00:40:58,534
I just looked over and I see, like, like,
there's a line to where there's hair.
1101
00:40:58,534 --> 00:41:00,074
Oh, dear God.
1102
00:41:00,695 --> 00:41:02,155
Oh, dang.
1103
00:41:02,375 --> 00:41:02,614
Yeah.
1104
00:41:02,614 --> 00:41:04,855
That's a baseball you lost when you're a kid.
1105
00:41:04,855 --> 00:41:05,175
Have you
1106
00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:06,375
ever shaved your armpits?
1107
00:41:06,375 --> 00:41:09,014
I guess that's the next question of the swanee
style segment.
1108
00:41:09,014 --> 00:41:09,630
Oh, God, though.
1109
00:41:09,869 --> 00:41:10,109
Yeah.
1110
00:41:10,109 --> 00:41:11,009
I can tell.
1111
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:13,389
Brett, how about you?
1112
00:41:13,389 --> 00:41:14,769
You ever shave the armpits?
1113
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:16,109
Absolutely not.
1114
00:41:16,109 --> 00:41:16,849
Oh, wow.
1115
00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:18,670
Absolutely not.
1116
00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:18,989
Wow.
1117
00:41:18,989 --> 00:41:19,230
K.
1118
00:41:19,230 --> 00:41:20,109
That's the end of that
1119
00:41:20,109 --> 00:41:20,609
conversation.
1120
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:21,469
Moving on.
1121
00:41:21,469 --> 00:41:21,949
K.
1122
00:41:21,949 --> 00:41:22,750
Moving on.
1123
00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:24,849
That was our swanee style segment, everybody.
1124
00:41:25,414 --> 00:41:29,255
And, thank God for, you know, but he got a
little warm in here.
1125
00:41:29,255 --> 00:41:30,635
He needed to unload.
1126
00:41:31,494 --> 00:41:33,114
He challenged my athleticism.
1127
00:41:33,655 --> 00:41:34,614
He bring it out.
1128
00:41:34,614 --> 00:41:38,534
Testosterone levels shot through the roof, and
the jacket no longer fit.
1129
00:41:38,534 --> 00:41:45,159
You know, there is kind of a a smell now
coming, which is very nature like.
1130
00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:45,619
Yeah.
1131
00:41:45,619 --> 00:41:46,900
Smells like deer antlers.
1132
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:47,380
Yeah.
1133
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:48,659
The crickets are
1134
00:41:48,659 --> 00:41:49,639
crickets are.
1135
00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:50,360
Oh, man.
1136
00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:53,320
Okay.
1137
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:53,780
Wow.
1138
00:41:53,780 --> 00:42:00,244
I don't know how we move from that into the
player advisory camp councils proposed changes
1139
00:42:00,244 --> 00:42:03,385
for the 2026 PGA tour season.
1140
00:42:03,684 --> 00:42:11,590
And here we go the first so there's a couple
main points out of this entire thing.
1141
00:42:11,590 --> 00:42:16,809
I went through it today, read through the
entire proposal by pack.
1142
00:42:17,110 --> 00:42:22,414
And the first part is and I'm just gonna label
label it as this, shrinking the game.
1143
00:42:22,715 --> 00:42:25,454
They are looking to shrink the PGA tour.
1144
00:42:25,594 --> 00:42:26,094
Mhmm.
1145
00:42:26,155 --> 00:42:26,655
K.
1146
00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:31,614
Now the best part of this is that they had to
tie it to something.
1147
00:42:31,755 --> 00:42:32,075
Right?
1148
00:42:32,075 --> 00:42:39,030
They just can't come out and say, hey, we're
gonna shrink down the PGA tour from a 125 guys
1149
00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:40,289
down to a 100.
1150
00:42:40,289 --> 00:42:42,789
We're gonna shrink the size of fields.
1151
00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:45,670
Do you know what they blamed it on, Butsy?
1152
00:42:45,809 --> 00:42:47,590
I fucking I have no idea.
1153
00:42:47,675 --> 00:42:48,574
What's the score?
1154
00:42:48,954 --> 00:42:49,514
Is that final?
1155
00:42:49,514 --> 00:42:50,394
I can't see that far.
1156
00:42:50,394 --> 00:42:50,954
Is that final?
1157
00:42:50,954 --> 00:42:52,894
8 Who's up?
1158
00:42:53,514 --> 00:42:54,715
64 New York.
1159
00:42:54,715 --> 00:42:55,215
64.
1160
00:42:55,514 --> 00:42:56,474
Come on, baby.
1161
00:42:56,474 --> 00:42:57,034
Come on.
1162
00:42:57,034 --> 00:42:59,054
Are they are the Dodgers up 2 games?
1163
00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:00,074
They're up 3.
1164
00:43:00,074 --> 00:43:00,394
3.
1165
00:43:00,394 --> 00:43:02,655
They could've they could've sweep tonight.
1166
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:04,469
Alright.
1167
00:43:04,469 --> 00:43:04,969
Beautiful.
1168
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:05,989
Is it in New York?
1169
00:43:05,989 --> 00:43:06,390
Is it
1170
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:06,869
in New York?
1171
00:43:06,869 --> 00:43:08,010
It is in New York.
1172
00:43:08,070 --> 00:43:10,309
Well, of course, they lose they lose in New
York.
1173
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:11,349
It goes back to LA.
1174
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:12,070
They win in LA.
1175
00:43:12,070 --> 00:43:13,050
I mean, come on.
1176
00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:14,070
Well, no.
1177
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:14,949
Every year.
1178
00:43:14,949 --> 00:43:15,110
No.
1179
00:43:15,110 --> 00:43:17,030
They've got one more game in New York tomorrow.
1180
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:17,269
Oh.
1181
00:43:17,269 --> 00:43:17,510
Yeah.
1182
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:17,590
Well,
1183
00:43:17,590 --> 00:43:19,284
they'll lose that one and then they'll win in
1184
00:43:19,445 --> 00:43:20,085
I hope not.
1185
00:43:20,085 --> 00:43:21,304
They're winning in Hawaii.
1186
00:43:22,005 --> 00:43:22,965
Who gives a shit?
1187
00:43:22,965 --> 00:43:23,284
Listen, this
1188
00:43:23,284 --> 00:43:25,284
could be the greatest comeback in sports
history.
1189
00:43:25,284 --> 00:43:31,125
The first time a World Series has ever been won
after a team being down 3 now 3 now.
1190
00:43:31,125 --> 00:43:31,844
It would be a first.
1191
00:43:31,844 --> 00:43:32,724
It would be a first.
1192
00:43:32,724 --> 00:43:33,284
2nd time.
1193
00:43:33,284 --> 00:43:33,929
The second time.
1194
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:34,250
It would
1195
00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:35,949
be the first time in the World Series.
1196
00:43:36,329 --> 00:43:37,609
The first time no.
1197
00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:39,550
It's it would be the first time.
1198
00:43:41,369 --> 00:43:44,489
Brent, why why are you saying this second time?
1199
00:43:44,489 --> 00:43:48,109
Cleveland Indians did it a few did it a few
years ago.
1200
00:43:48,244 --> 00:43:49,364
Not from 3 nil?
1201
00:43:49,364 --> 00:43:50,164
Guardians, dude.
1202
00:43:50,164 --> 00:43:50,405
No.
1203
00:43:50,405 --> 00:43:51,304
3 to 3 to
1204
00:43:54,724 --> 00:43:55,045
1.
1205
00:43:55,045 --> 00:43:56,565
So it'll be 31 after this.
1206
00:43:56,565 --> 00:43:58,485
What what are you talking about here?
1207
00:43:58,485 --> 00:43:58,804
No.
1208
00:43:58,804 --> 00:44:01,679
I'm telling you, they didn't start they didn't
get to 3 nil.
1209
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:03,839
They had a win in there.
1210
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:04,719
2 and then
1211
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,300
Yeah.
1212
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,260
Okay.
1213
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,159
So, alright.
1214
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:11,539
Anyways, moving on, shrinking the game.
1215
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,460
We are heading back to, the player advisory
councils proposed changes.
1216
00:44:16,094 --> 00:44:22,414
It is due to concerns about daylight that
tournament rounds cannot be finished because
1217
00:44:22,414 --> 00:44:28,094
there have been tournaments to which they have,
had to delay until the next day.
1218
00:44:28,094 --> 00:44:31,719
So they are proposing smaller tournament sizes.
1219
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:37,659
They want the max field size to go down from a
156 to a 144 players.
1220
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:45,255
And then the majority of the other tournaments
to go down from are down to a 132 player fields
1221
00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:48,135
or a 120 player fields.
1222
00:44:48,195 --> 00:44:48,994
Now guess what?
1223
00:44:48,994 --> 00:44:55,239
They're also not going to increase the size of
signature series events and the size of those
1224
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:55,719
fields.
1225
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,359
And so how
1226
00:44:56,359 --> 00:44:57,179
did they say?
1227
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:03,639
Because so the rationale behind them not
increasing is because they feel like the fans
1228
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:04,539
would get confused.
1229
00:45:08,575 --> 00:45:10,735
I I just I don't understand this.
1230
00:45:10,974 --> 00:45:11,474
Amazing.
1231
00:45:12,015 --> 00:45:17,135
What great work by such amazingly talented
thinkers.
1232
00:45:17,135 --> 00:45:19,614
Just spot on, guys.
1233
00:45:19,614 --> 00:45:20,515
Way to go.
1234
00:45:21,809 --> 00:45:22,309
Wait.
1235
00:45:22,690 --> 00:45:23,410
It was broken.
1236
00:45:23,410 --> 00:45:24,210
They had to fix it.
1237
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:24,869
You know?
1238
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:25,090
Yeah.
1239
00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:25,590
Sure.
1240
00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:25,890
Yeah.
1241
00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:30,210
Because of Liv, you know, because, you know,
it's Trump and all that.
1242
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:35,864
Well, the other sad thing about all of this,
which Ryan French is gonna have a terrible time
1243
00:45:35,864 --> 00:45:36,265
with.
1244
00:45:36,265 --> 00:45:38,664
He's already been tweeting about it quite a
bit.
1245
00:45:39,305 --> 00:45:39,805
Dress.
1246
00:45:40,585 --> 00:45:42,125
Say goodbye to Monday qualifiers.
1247
00:45:42,905 --> 00:45:46,925
So, but see, unfortunately, your dream of
Monday qualifying for the waste management
1248
00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:49,085
Phoenix open will be dead.
1249
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:50,449
I'm just gonna go play.
1250
00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:51,730
Yeah.
1251
00:45:53,469 --> 00:45:53,969
Yeah.
1252
00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:55,329
Sponsors exemption.
1253
00:45:56,109 --> 00:45:56,609
Gone.
1254
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:57,170
Fuck.
1255
00:45:57,469 --> 00:45:57,949
Gone.
1256
00:45:57,949 --> 00:46:04,215
All of that all of that gone, you can say
goodbye to the majority because any of the,
1257
00:46:04,695 --> 00:46:11,735
outside of a field size of a 144, which is the
gonna be the new max, if this ends up going
1258
00:46:11,735 --> 00:46:16,855
through and gets voted through, 144 would be
the only times that they would have a Monday
1259
00:46:16,855 --> 00:46:19,335
qualifier, which is like a handful of events.
1260
00:46:19,335 --> 00:46:20,409
So fucking stupid.
1261
00:46:20,409 --> 00:46:22,510
What happened to, like, giving people a chance?
1262
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:24,809
Well, it ain't about that, bud.
1263
00:46:24,809 --> 00:46:28,090
See, this is this is about making sure that
they make a better product.
1264
00:46:28,090 --> 00:46:28,329
Right?
1265
00:46:28,329 --> 00:46:28,650
Because
1266
00:46:28,889 --> 00:46:29,449
A better
1267
00:46:29,449 --> 00:46:29,849
product.
1268
00:46:29,929 --> 00:46:31,849
Full the whole deal is about.
1269
00:46:31,849 --> 00:46:32,650
You know what I mean?
1270
00:46:32,650 --> 00:46:37,694
Remember, right, they had such a poor product,
you know, 3 years ago before Liv came on that
1271
00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:40,335
they needed to make sure they improved the
product.
1272
00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:47,534
So watching the same guys week in and week out,
that's the only way the the the tour fan is
1273
00:46:47,534 --> 00:46:48,815
gonna be able to connect.
1274
00:46:48,815 --> 00:46:50,755
You're not being facetious, are you?
1275
00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:53,059
I didn't.
1276
00:46:53,059 --> 00:46:54,260
Just a weave it.
1277
00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:55,480
Just a hair knot.
1278
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:56,420
No.
1279
00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:57,380
I mean, come on, guys.
1280
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:57,699
I mean, what
1281
00:46:57,699 --> 00:46:58,180
are you saying?
1282
00:46:58,180 --> 00:46:59,460
What are we talking about here?
1283
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:00,099
Not hair.
1284
00:47:00,099 --> 00:47:00,599
Oh.
1285
00:47:00,739 --> 00:47:01,480
Another hair.
1286
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:07,244
Oh, we got Brian Schone, which, or is it Shane?
1287
00:47:07,244 --> 00:47:09,824
Is it like the Giants GM, your last name?
1288
00:47:10,364 --> 00:47:17,264
The tour is looking to offload its interesting
in the new venture to Piff, but apparently not
1289
00:47:17,405 --> 00:47:18,444
controlling interest.
1290
00:47:18,444 --> 00:47:24,769
In addition, Piff is looking to purchase the DP
World Tour and, wait for it, offer Rory a
1291
00:47:24,769 --> 00:47:26,230
gazillion dollars probably.
1292
00:47:26,289 --> 00:47:26,789
So
1293
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:27,890
Hold on.
1294
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:30,230
Have you listened to Space's event tonight?
1295
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:37,815
Are we gonna look back on this in 20 years and
just be, like, like, 20 21 to 24 was, like, the
1296
00:47:37,815 --> 00:47:39,994
stupidest run-in pro golf history?
1297
00:47:40,295 --> 00:47:45,175
Well, you know what's funny about this is that
how many guys are really gonna come back onto
1298
00:47:45,175 --> 00:47:46,535
the PGA Tour from Piff?
1299
00:47:46,535 --> 00:47:48,315
Or, well, from LIV, I should say?
1300
00:47:50,429 --> 00:47:52,670
I mean Probably, like, 25 guys.
1301
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:54,190
Think about think about if that.
1302
00:47:54,190 --> 00:47:59,630
I mean, think about how many guys gave up their
membership, weren't weren't tour winners to
1303
00:47:59,630 --> 00:48:03,409
begin with, you know, lost a bunch of word
ranking.
1304
00:48:03,469 --> 00:48:07,175
I mean, you gotta think that there's and
there's few guys that don't even wanna come
1305
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:07,335
back.
1306
00:48:07,335 --> 00:48:10,054
I mean, but we talk about this every week.
1307
00:48:10,054 --> 00:48:12,614
The deal has to get done for that to happen.
1308
00:48:12,614 --> 00:48:12,855
Yeah.
1309
00:48:12,855 --> 00:48:18,695
But do you think this is the prep in order to
prepare to get ready to bringing those guys
1310
00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:19,094
back in?
1311
00:48:19,094 --> 00:48:24,890
Because top 25 or it will no longer be the top
125 guys.
1312
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:30,309
According to the proposal that will end up
having PGA Tour cards the next year, it will
1313
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:31,610
goes down to 100.
1314
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:37,804
So losing 25 guys, I could see this as, okay.
1315
00:48:37,804 --> 00:48:43,344
You know, those 25 slots are gonna come back as
soon as we make the deal with Biff and easily
1316
00:48:43,484 --> 00:48:45,324
fit these guys right back into the fold.
1317
00:48:45,324 --> 00:48:52,090
But the limited number in terms of the amount
of players that are gonna be in the field is
1318
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:53,690
the other part to it.
1319
00:48:54,469 --> 00:48:56,150
I I don't I I don't think so.
1320
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:59,269
I don't think that this has anything to do with
the piff for the LIV tour at all.
1321
00:48:59,269 --> 00:48:59,829
I think Oh,
1322
00:48:59,829 --> 00:49:00,789
I just had to propose
1323
00:49:00,789 --> 00:49:01,369
a question.
1324
00:49:01,989 --> 00:49:02,469
Oh, I know.
1325
00:49:02,469 --> 00:49:03,670
I'm just I'm answering, you
1326
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:05,849
know Very argumentative stance, though, Grant.
1327
00:49:06,184 --> 00:49:06,980
Well, you know
1328
00:49:07,376 --> 00:49:07,970
just trying to
1329
00:49:08,365 --> 00:49:08,959
stand just coming
1330
00:49:08,959 --> 00:49:09,157
out.
1331
00:49:09,157 --> 00:49:09,355
It's
1332
00:49:09,355 --> 00:49:09,751
coming out.
1333
00:49:09,751 --> 00:49:10,844
And I have mine.
1334
00:49:11,224 --> 00:49:13,625
But this is this is this is the type of stuff
1335
00:49:13,625 --> 00:49:14,505
that gets me spun up.
1336
00:49:14,505 --> 00:49:15,304
You guys know that.
1337
00:49:15,304 --> 00:49:16,905
So, but Do we
1338
00:49:16,905 --> 00:49:17,224
have a
1339
00:49:17,224 --> 00:49:18,125
spin off?
1340
00:49:18,789 --> 00:49:19,289
Mhmm.
1341
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:20,730
I don't think so.
1342
00:49:20,949 --> 00:49:21,269
No.
1343
00:49:21,269 --> 00:49:22,489
We're gonna need our
1344
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:24,949
That that goat sound.
1345
00:49:24,949 --> 00:49:25,349
No.
1346
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:25,909
Not bad.
1347
00:49:25,909 --> 00:49:26,710
That's not bad.
1348
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:27,449
That's not bad.
1349
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:27,909
Yeah.
1350
00:49:27,909 --> 00:49:30,309
I mean, you could, you know, stop the record.
1351
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:30,710
But no.
1352
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:31,589
I mean, think about it.
1353
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:31,989
Right?
1354
00:49:31,989 --> 00:49:36,545
You've got a group of guys at the board that,
all want limited field.
1355
00:49:36,545 --> 00:49:40,625
They all want to be more secured in what they
in what they wanna do.
1356
00:49:40,625 --> 00:49:47,630
And and at the end of the day, the the people
that put in $3,000,000,000, wanna see where
1357
00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:48,349
that's going.
1358
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:52,829
And so you're gonna see sponsors like the
Shriners, by the way, just ended their
1359
00:49:52,829 --> 00:49:58,989
contract, which puts the PGA Tour even further
away from what mister Palmer wanted it to be.
1360
00:49:58,989 --> 00:50:02,014
And the bottom line is this has nothing to do
with the PIF.
1361
00:50:02,074 --> 00:50:04,474
This is this is all to do with making sure
1362
00:50:04,954 --> 00:50:05,355
It spells.
1363
00:50:05,675 --> 00:50:06,255
The the,
1364
00:50:10,155 --> 00:50:12,474
you know, the the group of players stay where
they wanna stay.
1365
00:50:12,474 --> 00:50:17,430
I mean, if you guys saw the the conditional
status now, you got a bunch of guys that that
1366
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:22,890
are mainstream players right now, and they're
not gonna be on the PGA Tour come 2026.
1367
00:50:23,590 --> 00:50:24,789
I mean, they're just not.
1368
00:50:24,789 --> 00:50:26,170
So pretty sad.
1369
00:50:26,664 --> 00:50:29,815
I I think it's I think it's the beginning of
the end, unfortunately.
1370
00:50:30,114 --> 00:50:30,614
Well,
1371
00:50:31,234 --> 00:50:36,994
it it might be the beginning of the end, but it
might be the fact that they're looking for this
1372
00:50:36,994 --> 00:50:38,114
to become more mainstream.
1373
00:50:38,114 --> 00:50:43,039
So if I'm playing devil's advocate, right, And
this is Tiger and Rory apparently making the
1374
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:50,239
decisions and so forth and really pushing for
this to be a smaller group on the PGA tour of
1375
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,360
just the absolute top talent where names
matter.
1376
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:53,680
Right?
1377
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,304
Because that was the whole thing with Liv.
1378
00:50:55,385 --> 00:51:00,364
They took names and that was the big thing that
the PGA tour was missing for a little bit.
1379
00:51:00,585 --> 00:51:07,804
And I just feel like this is part of that
making shrinking the professional game so that
1380
00:51:08,619 --> 00:51:11,119
everybody you're watching, you know,
1381
00:51:11,739 --> 00:51:12,699
how do you become a
1382
00:51:12,699 --> 00:51:15,179
casual fan as a casual fan.
1383
00:51:15,179 --> 00:51:15,679
Right?
1384
00:51:15,820 --> 00:51:22,244
But they're trying to protect the membership of
the guys who are playing in the top and they
1385
00:51:22,244 --> 00:51:25,125
don't want outsiders to become a part of this.
1386
00:51:25,125 --> 00:51:30,344
They want you to have to go and work really
hard in order to get onto the PG tour.
1387
00:51:30,885 --> 00:51:32,565
Even harder than you already have to work.
1388
00:51:32,565 --> 00:51:33,045
Exactly.
1389
00:51:33,045 --> 00:51:38,110
I mean, it's already I mean, you you're seeing
it firsthand brand as to how difficult it can
1390
00:51:38,110 --> 00:51:38,610
be.
1391
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:42,349
You didn't have a terrible year on the PGA tour
and yet you had to go back and play the Korn
1392
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:43,150
Ferry tour.
1393
00:51:43,150 --> 00:51:44,989
And it's like, geez, man.
1394
00:51:44,989 --> 00:51:48,930
Like, what do you have to do to be consistently
up there?
1395
00:51:49,085 --> 00:51:54,444
It's almost like you have to have a surge
really win like a big tournament.
1396
00:51:54,444 --> 00:52:00,045
And then all of a sudden you kind of hang
around within that top 100, but you have to
1397
00:52:00,045 --> 00:52:03,984
obviously have that big breakthrough moment in
order to do that.
1398
00:52:04,099 --> 00:52:09,300
It's just it's going to limit the players on a
year to year basis.
1399
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:10,440
I feel like Yeah.
1400
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:10,980
So if Brent
1401
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:14,360
made 5% more putts last year, we wouldn't even
be having this conversation.
1402
00:52:14,659 --> 00:52:15,400
That's true.
1403
00:52:16,875 --> 00:52:18,094
Let's fuck and be real.
1404
00:52:18,394 --> 00:52:19,355
Oh, for sure.
1405
00:52:19,355 --> 00:52:20,574
The man's is there.
1406
00:52:20,715 --> 00:52:22,655
He'd be he'd be in that conversation.
1407
00:52:22,875 --> 00:52:23,195
Yeah.
1408
00:52:23,195 --> 00:52:24,554
So that's that's kind of the point.
1409
00:52:24,554 --> 00:52:24,795
Right?
1410
00:52:24,795 --> 00:52:31,889
Is that if we if we talk about, long term
decisions and taking care of the membership and
1411
00:52:31,889 --> 00:52:38,130
making it a better tour and all that other
stuff, then that it's just you can't I've I've
1412
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:38,609
thought about it.
1413
00:52:38,609 --> 00:52:39,730
I've tried to steal man it.
1414
00:52:39,730 --> 00:52:44,304
I've tried to, like you said, play devil's
advocate, and it just seems like a group of
1415
00:52:44,304 --> 00:52:46,065
guys are getting together and being like, you
know what?
1416
00:52:46,065 --> 00:52:48,385
We got all this money and you know what?
1417
00:52:48,385 --> 00:52:52,625
We're gonna keep it for ourselves, and we've
got, you know, maybe 5, 6, 7 years left on the
1418
00:52:52,625 --> 00:52:54,545
ride here, and we're gonna ride it.
1419
00:52:54,545 --> 00:52:55,425
And then, you know what?
1420
00:52:55,425 --> 00:52:56,965
After that, it's not our problem.
1421
00:52:57,105 --> 00:53:03,650
And I do think it has to deal with the
longevity of the of how much money is being
1422
00:53:03,650 --> 00:53:08,849
paid out in these events in order to try to
compete and keep players on the PG tour rather
1423
00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:10,550
than having them leave for Liv.
1424
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:11,775
And acrobat.
1425
00:53:12,074 --> 00:53:13,114
Well, it listen.
1426
00:53:13,114 --> 00:53:14,875
You can run out of money pretty quickly.
1427
00:53:14,875 --> 00:53:18,655
The PGA tour doesn't have endless pockets like
PIFF does.
1428
00:53:18,715 --> 00:53:19,934
So Oh, I agree.
1429
00:53:19,994 --> 00:53:22,175
That that has to be part of it.
1430
00:53:22,235 --> 00:53:25,695
You really think that they still view Liv as a
contestant?
1431
00:53:26,849 --> 00:53:30,530
Like, we we just had a whole conversation last
week how these teams are gonna be individually
1432
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:33,650
owned and franchised, and they're gonna be
responsible for paying.
1433
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:38,530
And the death, not to disagree with you, but
the death of those huge contracts, like, is
1434
00:53:38,530 --> 00:53:39,510
probably here.
1435
00:53:40,265 --> 00:53:42,344
Do you think the tour still looks at that?
1436
00:53:42,344 --> 00:53:44,925
Like, you know, we gotta worry about Liv?
1437
00:53:44,985 --> 00:53:49,704
Potentially, because who knows if they're going
to expand this year and add another team like
1438
00:53:49,704 --> 00:53:51,485
they did last year with Jon Rahm's team.
1439
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:53,219
We don't know.
1440
00:53:53,219 --> 00:53:54,760
That's the unknown right now.
1441
00:53:54,900 --> 00:54:02,500
As we head into the winter season, it's are is
pay if is Liv or PIF going to go out and sign
1442
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,320
another big name and create another franchise?
1443
00:54:06,454 --> 00:54:07,875
Kind of validates it.
1444
00:54:07,894 --> 00:54:10,054
Kind of validates the product a little bit
then.
1445
00:54:10,054 --> 00:54:10,534
Right?
1446
00:54:10,534 --> 00:54:12,635
If that's why they're doing what they're doing.
1447
00:54:12,775 --> 00:54:17,175
I think everybody's pretty much caught on to
the fact that that at this point, it's about
1448
00:54:17,175 --> 00:54:17,755
the money.
1449
00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:25,730
And a lot of golfers that that watch the PGA
Tour, have never watched it because they're
1450
00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:29,250
making a lot of money out there, and it has
nothing to do with that.
1451
00:54:29,250 --> 00:54:34,050
And part of what part of what made the PGA
Tour, you know, the the great land of
1452
00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:39,815
opportunity that it was up until recently was
that a guy like, Jake Knapp could could
1453
00:54:39,815 --> 00:54:43,994
struggle for a long time and then and then make
it out there and then win.
1454
00:54:44,215 --> 00:54:46,855
And he did it the right way the whole way
through.
1455
00:54:46,855 --> 00:54:48,054
He didn't jump through.
1456
00:54:48,054 --> 00:54:51,449
You know, he wasn't given a bunch of exemptions
and and all sort of stuff.
1457
00:54:51,449 --> 00:54:52,250
He worked his way.
1458
00:54:52,250 --> 00:54:56,809
He was he was a bouncer at a club, and now he's
a he's a winner in the inside the top He
1459
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:57,609
bounced people in
1460
00:54:57,609 --> 00:54:58,010
the world.
1461
00:54:58,010 --> 00:54:58,250
Yeah.
1462
00:54:58,250 --> 00:54:58,969
He did bounce him.
1463
00:54:59,050 --> 00:54:59,690
Big boy.
1464
00:54:59,690 --> 00:55:00,090
Yeah.
1465
00:55:00,090 --> 00:55:00,489
So yeah.
1466
00:55:00,489 --> 00:55:05,210
I mean, I just I think that the the the
struggle is gonna be in in 2 to 3 years when
1467
00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:08,875
they realize that not every kid coming out of
college is a Tiger Woods and
1468
00:55:09,034 --> 00:55:09,855
Is a bouncer?
1469
00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:10,894
Yeah.
1470
00:55:11,195 --> 00:55:12,094
There you go.
1471
00:55:12,635 --> 00:55:19,514
The other side to this too is that the Korn
Ferry tour is gonna go down to 20 players are
1472
00:55:19,514 --> 00:55:23,619
going to be received PG tour cards instead of
the what was it?
1473
00:55:23,619 --> 00:55:24,519
30 or 35?
1474
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:25,300
30.
1475
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:25,800
30.
1476
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:32,099
And then 5 so they took so they're gonna take,
the 5 in ties from cue score and make it 5.
1477
00:55:32,099 --> 00:55:33,460
They're gonna leave, by the way.
1478
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:35,315
They're not gonna touch the DP World Tour.
1479
00:55:35,315 --> 00:55:35,554
Correct.
1480
00:55:35,554 --> 00:55:35,795
You know,
1481
00:55:35,795 --> 00:55:37,255
because we love the top ten.
1482
00:55:38,355 --> 00:55:40,034
And here's what's here's what's crazy.
1483
00:55:40,034 --> 00:55:47,014
So out of, like, I don't know, 40 some odd
events, for, quote, unquote, full field events,
1484
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:51,140
They're gonna take them down by anywhere from
11 to 24 spots.
1485
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:57,039
So for example, at the Sony this year, right,
before any of these changes, these guys coming
1486
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:01,664
out of q school, the 30 guys coming out of the
out of the Korn Ferry tour, and the 10 guys
1487
00:56:01,664 --> 00:56:03,025
coming out of DP World Tour.
1488
00:56:03,025 --> 00:56:06,545
They got through 18 of those guys at the Sony
Open.
1489
00:56:06,545 --> 00:56:07,025
Mhmm.
1490
00:56:07,025 --> 00:56:07,825
18 of them.
1491
00:56:07,825 --> 00:56:11,605
And the and by the way, in 2026, they're not
getting any starts.
1492
00:56:11,744 --> 00:56:16,070
So they're gonna get one start in the first
probably 6 or 7 events.
1493
00:56:16,070 --> 00:56:20,230
And because they're changing all the rest of
the the rest of the season as well, there's no
1494
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:23,829
well, they'll pick it up in the season in the
in the oh, well, they'll pick it up in the
1495
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:24,230
fall.
1496
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:26,309
Oh, well, they'll they'll eventually get there.
1497
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:32,804
It's like there's there's not gonna be enough
turnover to make the case for 95% of the guys
1498
00:56:32,804 --> 00:56:34,244
that are at the top right now.
1499
00:56:34,244 --> 00:56:36,424
Scottie Scheffler may not have ever existed.
1500
00:56:36,804 --> 00:56:40,344
If, you know, I mean, think about it that way,
but who knows?
1501
00:56:40,644 --> 00:56:44,470
You're gonna get me all you're gonna get me all
hot and bothered over here.
1502
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:46,809
I might have to show the guns out here in a
second.
1503
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:49,750
What does that mean?
1504
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:50,390
What are you gonna do?
1505
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:50,630
Yeah.
1506
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:52,390
Cusco is gonna be capped at 5.
1507
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:56,570
You got the DP World Tour at 10, and the Korn
Ferry will be down to 20.
1508
00:56:57,675 --> 00:57:01,835
The other tough thing is when you do get your
card through that, how many tournaments are you
1509
00:57:01,835 --> 00:57:03,375
actually gonna be able to get into?
1510
00:57:03,755 --> 00:57:03,994
Yep.
1511
00:57:03,994 --> 00:57:09,434
And that's the whole other side to it, which I
learned through Harrison Anycut and, David
1512
00:57:09,434 --> 00:57:15,950
Giese's, caddy at the time that they couldn't
get into the majority of the first, like,
1513
00:57:16,489 --> 00:57:17,630
quarter of the season.
1514
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:25,710
Like, they barely got into a secondary event,
and that was somebody who won q School.
1515
00:57:25,864 --> 00:57:28,204
So it's just very difficult.
1516
00:57:28,824 --> 00:57:33,065
It just seems very challenging to get your card
and keep your card.
1517
00:57:33,065 --> 00:57:33,565
Yeah.
1518
00:57:33,625 --> 00:57:34,344
Like Certainly.
1519
00:57:34,344 --> 00:57:35,625
But that's but that's the point.
1520
00:57:35,625 --> 00:57:35,864
Right?
1521
00:57:35,864 --> 00:57:42,400
And and that's where as as a tour player, this
is where we have these conversations with any
1522
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,480
other tour player for that matter, and it just
comes down to the fact that there are 6 guys
1523
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,139
that have complete power, and there's nobody
that's that can challenge them.
1524
00:57:51,885 --> 00:57:56,765
And there's no corporate corporate guy that's
looking long term down down the road and saying
1525
00:57:57,085 --> 00:57:58,304
There has to be.
1526
00:57:58,445 --> 00:58:00,844
How long Patrick, how long are you gonna last
for?
1527
00:58:00,925 --> 00:58:01,824
About 1,000,000,000,000.
1528
00:58:02,285 --> 00:58:02,525
Think about it.
1529
00:58:02,605 --> 00:58:03,085
Of dollars.
1530
00:58:03,085 --> 00:58:07,289
Like, these guys aren't sitting in a room and,
like, 5 guys are like, this is what we're gonna
1531
00:58:07,289 --> 00:58:07,530
do.
1532
00:58:07,530 --> 00:58:08,809
Like, there's definitely what
1533
00:58:08,809 --> 00:58:09,469
they're doing.
1534
00:58:09,530 --> 00:58:10,349
You're a businessman.
1535
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:15,450
Like, there's absolutely somebody that's doing
projections and and seeing 5 years, 10 years
1536
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:16,050
down the road.
1537
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:16,750
Though.
1538
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:18,190
I just They're not.
1539
00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:20,143
Think about what they did with the other guy.
1540
00:58:20,329 --> 00:58:25,034
Organization to leave it up to, like, like
we're saying, it's so mundanely, like, well,
1541
00:58:25,034 --> 00:58:27,114
it's like 6 guys that are running this shit.
1542
00:58:27,114 --> 00:58:28,175
It's just funny.
1543
00:58:28,394 --> 00:58:28,875
Hang on.
1544
00:58:28,875 --> 00:58:34,015
It it's funny how every other major sports
league has had expansions.
1545
00:58:34,554 --> 00:58:35,034
Right?
1546
00:58:35,034 --> 00:58:35,515
Yeah.
1547
00:58:35,515 --> 00:58:38,599
We have never seen it to where they've been
restricted.
1548
00:58:38,660 --> 00:58:41,220
And all of a sudden, we're taking away teams.
1549
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:42,579
We're taking away players.
1550
00:58:42,579 --> 00:58:43,559
We want less.
1551
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:46,579
That is what's happening right now with the PGA
tour.
1552
00:58:46,579 --> 00:58:47,079
74.
1553
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:48,200
74.
1554
00:58:48,340 --> 00:58:48,840
Yankees.
1555
00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:49,720
Let's go.
1556
00:58:50,204 --> 00:58:50,925
Let's go.
1557
00:58:50,925 --> 00:58:53,085
We got hopefully, that's the end of the game.
1558
00:58:53,085 --> 00:58:55,565
I'm absolutely still Let's let's play
1559
00:58:55,565 --> 00:58:56,765
let's play a little game.
1560
00:58:56,765 --> 00:58:58,285
I mean, well, what about the I love
1561
00:58:58,285 --> 00:58:59,265
games, I love
1562
00:59:00,285 --> 00:59:01,105
playing games.
1563
00:59:01,164 --> 00:59:02,925
What about the what about the elevated events?
1564
00:59:02,925 --> 00:59:07,190
Were they were they great for the for the year
this year?
1565
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:08,730
I think it was good for us.
1566
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:10,230
Like Well, yeah.
1567
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:11,429
Because it gave us stuff
1568
00:59:11,429 --> 00:59:12,069
to talk about.
1569
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:17,690
It gave us stuff to talk about, and the media
is part of the overall fan experience.
1570
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:24,114
And I feel like, you know, the signature series
events, I'm not it's for the betterment of the
1571
00:59:24,114 --> 00:59:24,434
game.
1572
00:59:24,434 --> 00:59:25,574
I'm not for them.
1573
00:59:25,795 --> 00:59:31,954
But I do think it essentially makes it a little
bit easier for fans to get into big
1574
00:59:31,954 --> 00:59:32,355
tournaments.
1575
00:59:32,434 --> 00:59:33,554
What I was just gonna say.
1576
00:59:33,554 --> 00:59:34,914
But even though they had a lot of
1577
00:59:34,914 --> 00:59:40,070
fans knows that they're they're watching
something bigger, and and they should pay
1578
00:59:40,070 --> 00:59:43,349
attention to it because this is gonna have more
good players in it.
1579
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:44,869
The numbers would disagree, though.
1580
00:59:44,869 --> 00:59:45,190
Yeah.
1581
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:46,390
The numbers would disagree, though.
1582
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:49,990
The viewership was down to a quarter of what it
normally would be.
1583
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:51,454
Maybe initially, for sure.
1584
00:59:51,454 --> 00:59:52,414
Well, for the whole year.
1585
00:59:52,414 --> 00:59:53,135
Long term.
1586
00:59:53,135 --> 00:59:54,255
I'm talking about, like, 5 years
1587
00:59:54,255 --> 00:59:54,894
from now.
1588
00:59:54,894 --> 00:59:56,434
Once that's messaging yeah.
1589
00:59:56,735 --> 00:59:58,594
I think everybody's fed up with this.
1590
00:59:59,135 --> 01:00:00,335
That's the biggest thing.
1591
01:00:00,335 --> 01:00:07,309
And I I just think it is a little bit
shortsighted to all of a sudden shrink the
1592
01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:07,630
tour.
1593
01:00:07,630 --> 01:00:09,089
I think that is shortsighted.
1594
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:11,809
We should start a par 3 league at night.
1595
01:00:12,670 --> 01:00:13,170
Done.
1596
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:14,449
I'm in.
1597
01:00:17,635 --> 01:00:17,795
So How
1598
01:00:17,795 --> 01:00:18,914
do you think about it, guys?
1599
01:00:18,914 --> 01:00:19,315
Hang on.
1600
01:00:19,315 --> 01:00:20,215
From now Hey.
1601
01:00:20,275 --> 01:00:20,675
Go ahead.
1602
01:00:20,675 --> 01:00:26,215
Hang on for one sec because you just reminded
me of what the cover for this episode was,
1603
01:00:26,515 --> 01:00:27,974
which is night golf.
1604
01:00:28,114 --> 01:00:28,994
Why in the world?
1605
01:00:28,994 --> 01:00:36,389
So they blame daylight for the issue behind why
they can't have these, this number of players
1606
01:00:36,389 --> 01:00:37,210
in a tournament.
1607
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:42,630
Why in the world with all the money that's
being made by like the PGA tour, for instance,
1608
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:47,155
and granite live is probably going to take this
idea and they're probably gonna run with it.
1609
01:00:47,614 --> 01:00:52,894
Why not have portable lights out there and
light up an entire golf course, like the waste
1610
01:00:52,894 --> 01:00:58,515
management Phoenix open and have it be at night
for the majority of the round?
1611
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,699
That would be sick.
1612
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,440
People would get Everybody's behind that.
1613
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,119
9 holes at night or some I don't know.
1614
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:04,079
Something like that.
1615
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,300
It would have to be fair.
1616
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:05,920
Of course.
1617
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,079
Yeah.
1618
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:09,440
You have to have everybody with the same amount
of time under the light because it's a totally
1619
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,920
different day.
1620
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,404
Well, Thursday, you're playing in in in the
day, and on Friday, you're playing at night.
1621
01:01:15,484 --> 01:01:16,065
Night game.
1622
01:01:16,284 --> 01:01:16,444
Yeah.
1623
01:01:16,444 --> 01:01:16,565
Yeah.
1624
01:01:16,565 --> 01:01:17,244
I like that.
1625
01:01:17,244 --> 01:01:18,065
Like, baseball.
1626
01:01:18,125 --> 01:01:18,444
Yeah.
1627
01:01:18,444 --> 01:01:19,664
What the fuck's the difference?
1628
01:01:20,684 --> 01:01:21,644
Maybe the infrastructure?
1629
01:01:21,644 --> 01:01:21,804
I mean,
1630
01:01:21,804 --> 01:01:23,005
they're well, think about it.
1631
01:01:23,005 --> 01:01:26,760
You can buy portable lights and put them all
along the fairways.
1632
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,640
And especially at a golf course like the Waste
Management Phoenix Open, there's nowhere to go
1633
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,420
outside of the main areas of Fairway and some
desert.
1634
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
There's plenty of room at a course like that
Yeah.
1635
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,940
To light it, other venues.
1636
01:01:41,405 --> 01:01:45,984
It's like, let's get smarter instead of just
thinking, oh, let's shrink the game.
1637
01:01:47,005 --> 01:01:53,484
Well, I mean, I I think I think you're you're
spot on, but I I mean, this this system that
1638
01:01:53,484 --> 01:01:55,089
they've had has worked for decades.
1639
01:01:55,089 --> 01:01:56,469
It's 32 degrees.
1640
01:01:57,089 --> 01:01:57,989
It's a gaggle.
1641
01:01:58,369 --> 01:01:59,750
Super cold at night.
1642
01:02:00,530 --> 01:02:03,170
You know, but it's worked for it's it's worked
for years.
1643
01:02:03,170 --> 01:02:05,089
I mean, it sounds like I'm going to keep
putting yeah.
1644
01:02:05,089 --> 01:02:06,369
That's very true of mine.
1645
01:02:06,369 --> 01:02:07,269
Totally agree.
1646
01:02:08,264 --> 01:02:14,184
But it's just it's it's one of those things
where this system has worked for decades, and
1647
01:02:14,184 --> 01:02:17,944
this is something that this is something that
only a few players
1648
01:02:18,264 --> 01:02:19,724
I gotta make a year in.
1649
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:20,400
Okay.
1650
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:20,900
Bye.
1651
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,319
But now on to the real show.
1652
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:25,460
He'll be right back.
1653
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:27,119
Don't worry about me.
1654
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:27,940
I'll be back.
1655
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:28,480
Get out
1656
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:28,880
of the way.
1657
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,639
It's gonna take a while, but he'll get through
it.
1658
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:31,699
Oh, it's not all yours.
1659
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:32,715
And he's gone.
1660
01:02:33,755 --> 01:02:34,235
But no.
1661
01:02:34,235 --> 01:02:35,114
I mean, think about it, Matt.
1662
01:02:35,114 --> 01:02:36,875
I mean, what's Matt, what's your perspective?
1663
01:02:36,875 --> 01:02:39,035
I mean, you've been covering the sport for a
long time.
1664
01:02:39,035 --> 01:02:40,015
You were a professional.
1665
01:02:40,795 --> 01:02:43,295
You obviously have been around enough tour
veterans.
1666
01:02:44,635 --> 01:02:51,380
What about this last 2 years has been so
stressful for the PGA tour where they feel like
1667
01:02:51,380 --> 01:02:55,059
they've gotta make all these changes and have
no explanation for it, by the way.
1668
01:02:55,059 --> 01:02:56,820
Billy Horsche went with Ryan French.
1669
01:02:56,820 --> 01:02:57,219
Yeah.
1670
01:02:57,219 --> 01:02:58,679
Could not answer a question.
1671
01:02:58,739 --> 01:02:58,900
No.
1672
01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:59,985
Couldn't answer a question.
1673
01:03:00,065 --> 01:03:04,485
He was incapable of saying how this is actually
better for the Tories.
1674
01:03:04,545 --> 01:03:05,744
Incapable of doing it.
1675
01:03:05,744 --> 01:03:07,525
That's because That's the top player.
1676
01:03:08,224 --> 01:03:12,005
They're trying to tie it to some type of data.
1677
01:03:12,429 --> 01:03:18,289
And the one thing that I will say is it's very
transparent as to what is going on here.
1678
01:03:18,349 --> 01:03:20,929
This is not for the betterment of the overall
tour.
1679
01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:27,594
This is to shrink the tour down so that the
money can stay in more guys' pockets that are
1680
01:03:27,594 --> 01:03:30,494
going to be in that top 100.
1681
01:03:31,434 --> 01:03:32,414
Thank you, Trot.
1682
01:03:32,795 --> 01:03:33,114
So
1683
01:03:33,194 --> 01:03:36,494
So what would that look like if they were
transparent?
1684
01:03:36,554 --> 01:03:40,554
I mean, because obviously, we know in today's
world that's virtually impossible for any
1685
01:03:40,554 --> 01:03:42,329
corporate structure to be that way.
1686
01:03:42,550 --> 01:03:45,690
But what if they just said came out and said,
well, you know what?
1687
01:03:45,909 --> 01:03:50,070
We looked at we looked at the data and we
looked at the complaints of a lot of the
1688
01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:54,585
players, by the way, me being one of them, that
play a lot of rounds at night.
1689
01:03:55,945 --> 01:03:59,464
You know, what what what can we do about this?
1690
01:03:59,464 --> 01:04:05,704
Well, we kinda can't we can't really shrink the
field sizes too much because we have a lot of
1691
01:04:05,704 --> 01:04:10,045
legitimate players that have come out of the
corn fed war category and the DP war category,
1692
01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:11,429
that have won.
1693
01:04:11,429 --> 01:04:13,929
And we love to talk about how great that is.
1694
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:17,829
But then we're gonna turn right around and and
say, ah, well, you know what?
1695
01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:19,429
It wasn't that great to begin with.
1696
01:04:19,429 --> 01:04:20,889
So fuck them.
1697
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:21,510
Like, I
1698
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:23,765
just It's a tough stance, man.
1699
01:04:23,765 --> 01:04:28,005
And that's why this has gained so much media
attention especially, I mean, it's got an
1700
01:04:28,005 --> 01:04:36,599
entire segment on our show because of the
standpoint that this is a very very non
1701
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:42,440
transparent, like, way of going about it to try
to, like, say, hey, we have data that shows
1702
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,219
that in a couple events, daylight was an issue.
1703
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:47,739
Okay.
1704
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:50,940
Who's to say that daylight is not gonna be an
issue anymore?
1705
01:04:51,454 --> 01:04:51,695
Right?
1706
01:04:51,695 --> 01:04:52,335
With Yeah.
1707
01:04:52,335 --> 01:04:52,815
I agree.
1708
01:04:53,375 --> 01:04:56,974
The same and they're slowing up the pace of
play.
1709
01:04:56,974 --> 01:05:01,215
They're going to allow more slower play within
this process as well.
1710
01:05:01,215 --> 01:05:02,815
It just seems to me, like
1711
01:05:02,974 --> 01:05:03,734
because that was never
1712
01:05:03,934 --> 01:05:09,769
It's the I mean, I hate I hate to go down this
path, but I'm gonna say it's like the old boys
1713
01:05:09,769 --> 01:05:10,269
club.
1714
01:05:10,409 --> 01:05:11,609
It's like, oh, you know what?
1715
01:05:11,609 --> 01:05:13,230
We're gonna take care of each other.
1716
01:05:13,449 --> 01:05:14,289
And Let's go down.
1717
01:05:14,409 --> 01:05:17,630
As long as we do that, we're gonna be just
fine.
1718
01:05:19,715 --> 01:05:20,114
We need
1719
01:05:20,114 --> 01:05:20,614
innovation.
1720
01:05:21,394 --> 01:05:24,035
We need innovation around the PGA Tour.
1721
01:05:24,035 --> 01:05:24,675
We no.
1722
01:05:24,675 --> 01:05:25,655
We need innovation.
1723
01:05:25,715 --> 01:05:29,094
We don't need shrinking of the game.
1724
01:05:29,315 --> 01:05:34,440
There's so many great talents and new guys that
have their shining moment.
1725
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,760
All of a sudden after they've struggled for
years, like
1726
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,320
that's true.
1727
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,559
Would, would Wyndham Clark have been able to
break through the way that he did in the
1728
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:43,400
current setup in system?
1729
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,519
Probably not.
1730
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:48,315
Like he wouldn't have been able to hang around
and he's he going to be a guy that's just gonna
1731
01:05:48,315 --> 01:05:52,094
go play the Korn Ferry Tour every single year
and potentially lose money?
1732
01:05:52,234 --> 01:05:56,155
Who like, that's where this whole entire thing
is really skewed.
1733
01:05:56,155 --> 01:06:01,114
If the Korn Ferry Tour was a better product
because they actually put money into it and
1734
01:06:01,114 --> 01:06:06,440
they actually spent time, I could see this
working out to where you've got a restricted
1735
01:06:06,659 --> 01:06:10,840
group and there's ways to get into it and so
forth, but that's not there.
1736
01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:17,885
Like they don't have the infrastructure that's
there in order to move from the Korn Ferry tour
1737
01:06:17,885 --> 01:06:19,585
into the PGA tour and be successful
1738
01:06:20,045 --> 01:06:20,525
in my mind.
1739
01:06:20,525 --> 01:06:25,644
As a as a as a successful business person, the
person who has built and sold businesses, do
1740
01:06:25,644 --> 01:06:29,405
you believe that this product that they're
talking about trying to sell to these, you
1741
01:06:29,405 --> 01:06:34,260
know, multinational, multibillion dollar
companies that they they love to talk about.
1742
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:37,219
Do you think that they're gonna continue to
step up and and be like, yeah.
1743
01:06:37,219 --> 01:06:37,960
You know what?
1744
01:06:38,019 --> 01:06:41,940
Even though it's the same guys year in and year
out, and we don't really get any money back
1745
01:06:41,940 --> 01:06:44,875
from this, but we're gonna still continue to
put money into this.
1746
01:06:44,875 --> 01:06:46,974
Do you do you really think that that's gonna
happen?
1747
01:06:47,914 --> 01:06:53,275
I mean, what would you do if you were the CEO
of whatever and and had 1,000,000,000 of
1748
01:06:53,275 --> 01:06:53,775
dollars?
1749
01:06:54,714 --> 01:06:56,154
I mean still a way to get on tour.
1750
01:06:56,154 --> 01:06:56,550
Right?
1751
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:57,269
There is.
1752
01:06:57,269 --> 01:07:00,329
There's still pathways, but it's a lot more
difficult to stay.
1753
01:07:00,469 --> 01:07:00,630
Yeah.
1754
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:01,590
You have to be
1755
01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:02,730
you have to be exceptional.
1756
01:07:03,590 --> 01:07:05,050
You do have to be exceptional.
1757
01:07:05,110 --> 01:07:06,070
You gotta come out.
1758
01:07:06,070 --> 01:07:07,510
And Well, you How are they not?
1759
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:09,855
You have to you can't progress into it.
1760
01:07:09,934 --> 01:07:11,054
You have to come out.
1761
01:07:11,054 --> 01:07:15,315
Like, you have to have a hell of a year on the
Korn Ferry tour, and then you've gotta come
1762
01:07:15,375 --> 01:07:18,734
directly into the PGA tour and basically win an
event.
1763
01:07:18,734 --> 01:07:20,014
So this is what I'm saying.
1764
01:07:20,014 --> 01:07:21,534
So, like, we don't know yet.
1765
01:07:21,534 --> 01:07:24,820
Like, 5 years from now, that that may work.
1766
01:07:24,820 --> 01:07:28,260
You you might end up with extremely strong
fields in golf.
1767
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:28,659
Listen.
1768
01:07:28,659 --> 01:07:32,440
I I'll I'll tell you what the PGA Tour should
be doing instead.
1769
01:07:32,739 --> 01:07:37,059
Instead of shrinking the game, they should be
promoting the shit out of every single tour
1770
01:07:37,059 --> 01:07:38,614
member that they have.
1771
01:07:39,155 --> 01:07:45,554
A 125 players are getting promoted so that you
know the names of all of these players rather
1772
01:07:45,554 --> 01:07:48,355
than only knowing a dozen guys.
1773
01:07:48,355 --> 01:07:49,175
That's true.
1774
01:07:49,474 --> 01:07:52,934
But They do a terrible job with promoting of
golfers.
1775
01:07:53,329 --> 01:07:58,050
So let's just say they promoted, like like like
a little more, depth of the field.
1776
01:07:58,050 --> 01:07:58,289
Right?
1777
01:07:58,289 --> 01:07:59,969
Like like the top 50 even.
1778
01:07:59,969 --> 01:08:04,309
If you knew who the top 50 were, that's in line
with where they're going.
1779
01:08:04,530 --> 01:08:09,355
They can work on promoting the product better,
but, like, you don't need to know who a 150
1780
01:08:09,574 --> 01:08:10,315
guys are.
1781
01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:11,034
Like
1782
01:08:11,494 --> 01:08:11,734
Yeah.
1783
01:08:11,734 --> 01:08:16,954
But for years for years, these the the tour was
was capable of doing, and they did it.
1784
01:08:17,015 --> 01:08:22,770
I mean, it's really up until Jay Monahan took
over that that the the who's the next Tiger
1785
01:08:22,770 --> 01:08:24,469
Woods was the entire focus.
1786
01:08:24,529 --> 01:08:27,170
And and I'm not disagreeing with you guys.
1787
01:08:27,170 --> 01:08:29,510
I'm I'm in the same school of thought.
1788
01:08:29,569 --> 01:08:34,869
I'm just saying, look at it from the other side
for a second and at least do the what if of,
1789
01:08:35,095 --> 01:08:39,675
okay, like, few years from now, is there a
chance that what they're doing does produce,
1790
01:08:40,935 --> 01:08:42,854
much deeper and much stronger fields?
1791
01:08:42,854 --> 01:08:43,335
Can't leave
1792
01:08:43,335 --> 01:08:44,295
that one up there.
1793
01:08:44,295 --> 01:08:46,395
I'll be shorter fields.
1794
01:08:47,929 --> 01:08:48,729
Like No.
1795
01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:50,569
You're cutting the fat off, basically.
1796
01:08:50,569 --> 01:08:52,489
But I understand what they're trying to do.
1797
01:08:52,489 --> 01:08:53,449
There is fat, though.
1798
01:08:53,449 --> 01:08:53,850
There is.
1799
01:08:53,850 --> 01:08:58,409
There's guys that first off, like, I I think
back in the day, you used to be able to go to q
1800
01:08:58,409 --> 01:08:59,850
school and get right on the PGA tour.
1801
01:08:59,850 --> 01:09:00,889
Can you still do that?
1802
01:09:00,889 --> 01:09:01,710
You you no.
1803
01:09:02,125 --> 01:09:03,484
Can't you can't now.
1804
01:09:03,484 --> 01:09:05,024
You got 5 slots now.
1805
01:09:05,085 --> 01:09:06,284
So so okay.
1806
01:09:06,284 --> 01:09:07,965
There used to be more though, if I'm not
mistaken.
1807
01:09:07,965 --> 01:09:09,324
Five slots, but so alright.
1808
01:09:09,324 --> 01:09:11,404
So let's send them on to this this other tour.
1809
01:09:11,404 --> 01:09:14,045
Let's go to triple a baseball, and let's play
there.
1810
01:09:14,045 --> 01:09:17,579
And that way, you're gonna be ready, and you'll
be able to meet the demand of the PGA Tour.
1811
01:09:17,659 --> 01:09:18,539
And that's not working.
1812
01:09:18,539 --> 01:09:18,699
That's
1813
01:09:18,699 --> 01:09:21,659
if they that's if they But it's not working.
1814
01:09:21,739 --> 01:09:22,780
Invest in that tour, though.
1815
01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:23,420
It is working.
1816
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:23,739
What's that?
1817
01:09:23,739 --> 01:09:24,539
What do you mean invest?
1818
01:09:24,539 --> 01:09:25,500
It's not working, though.
1819
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:28,479
If it was, then you'd have more names shining
quicker.
1820
01:09:28,619 --> 01:09:29,820
Like, because that's the
1821
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:31,680
Eric Cole, Max Graseman.
1822
01:09:32,104 --> 01:09:32,824
And they and
1823
01:09:32,824 --> 01:09:34,185
and under the new rules, those
1824
01:09:34,265 --> 01:09:34,744
they would
1825
01:09:34,744 --> 01:09:35,645
still exist.
1826
01:09:35,864 --> 01:09:36,664
They would still exist.
1827
01:09:36,664 --> 01:09:38,685
Those guys would still have been shiners.
1828
01:09:39,704 --> 01:09:39,944
No.
1829
01:09:39,944 --> 01:09:41,564
Because they're not getting into events.
1830
01:09:42,265 --> 01:09:42,505
Yeah.
1831
01:09:42,505 --> 01:09:42,664
Yeah.
1832
01:09:42,664 --> 01:09:43,064
They would.
1833
01:09:43,064 --> 01:09:44,104
They they would be No.
1834
01:09:44,104 --> 01:09:44,744
They're not getting in.
1835
01:09:44,744 --> 01:09:45,225
The stuff
1836
01:09:45,225 --> 01:09:48,960
that they did 120 man field 120 man field, they
don't get in.
1837
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,500
But the stuff that they did play in, they would
have excelled at regardless.
1838
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:53,779
Not necessarily.
1839
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:59,359
You got I mean, this is one of my arguments
that I've had with the PGA Tour is that you're
1840
01:09:59,359 --> 01:10:05,675
not gonna have a guy in his mid thirties
finally figure it out because the system
1841
01:10:05,675 --> 01:10:06,635
doesn't allow it.
1842
01:10:06,635 --> 01:10:07,435
Like you have to
1843
01:10:07,435 --> 01:10:08,234
have enough time.
1844
01:10:08,234 --> 01:10:08,395
Yeah.
1845
01:10:08,395 --> 01:10:09,354
You don't have enough time.
1846
01:10:09,354 --> 01:10:14,335
You don't have a system that's gonna allow you
to grow as a professional golfer.
1847
01:10:14,475 --> 01:10:19,159
And like there's guys that peak that really
kinda hit their stride in their mid thirties.
1848
01:10:19,159 --> 01:10:24,140
Let's just say you're right about that, but
that's not as entertaining as a guy that's 25
1849
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:27,239
that excelled way ahead of when that guy hit
his peak.
1850
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:28,935
So that guy gets the bump up.
1851
01:10:28,935 --> 01:10:29,655
He's younger.
1852
01:10:29,655 --> 01:10:32,295
He's more marketable and he's gonna play better
for longer.
1853
01:10:32,295 --> 01:10:32,534
Yeah.
1854
01:10:32,534 --> 01:10:34,854
Brian Shane actually has a good point here.
1855
01:10:34,854 --> 01:10:41,574
He's saying, so are we rather have more players
in because fans wanna hear the stories of the
1856
01:10:41,574 --> 01:10:43,739
grinders versus the stars.
1857
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:48,219
And obviously the stars are going to take the
cake when it comes to fan interest.
1858
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:56,300
But there are, there is a fan base that loves
the stories of the guys that can break through.
1859
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,819
And I really feel like
1860
01:10:58,074 --> 01:10:58,235
Sure.
1861
01:10:58,635 --> 01:11:03,935
Shows like this, who we talk about guys that
potentially could break through and so forth.
1862
01:11:03,994 --> 01:11:09,295
It's like, man, having that promotion around
those guys and then they do break through,
1863
01:11:09,515 --> 01:11:11,595
that's massive for somebody.
1864
01:11:11,595 --> 01:11:13,329
It used to have those stories like Jason Gore.
1865
01:11:13,329 --> 01:11:14,130
Remember that name?
1866
01:11:14,130 --> 01:11:14,449
Yeah.
1867
01:11:14,449 --> 01:11:15,650
Remember when Gore came out?
1868
01:11:15,650 --> 01:11:17,250
But, again, look.
1869
01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:18,530
That's a perfect example, actually.
1870
01:11:18,530 --> 01:11:20,390
Guy used to drive a Budweiser truck.
1871
01:11:20,449 --> 01:11:25,489
Got on tour, was potent, but because of his
age, he had 2 years of potency, and then he's
1872
01:11:25,489 --> 01:11:25,970
gone.
1873
01:11:25,970 --> 01:11:26,710
Rich Beem.
1874
01:11:26,914 --> 01:11:27,234
Okay.
1875
01:11:27,234 --> 01:11:27,715
Another one.
1876
01:11:27,715 --> 01:11:28,594
But, like, but you have
1877
01:11:28,675 --> 01:11:29,954
He's selling cell phones.
1878
01:11:29,954 --> 01:11:30,835
But here's the thought.
1879
01:11:30,835 --> 01:11:31,154
Right?
1880
01:11:31,154 --> 01:11:32,755
Then when's the p j j p j?
1881
01:11:32,755 --> 01:11:36,055
We're gonna let you in, but your peak is gonna
be a couple years.
1882
01:11:36,274 --> 01:11:40,029
We want guys that are gonna have a 10 year
peak, and we can actually, like, put some money
1883
01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:40,429
behind it.
1884
01:11:40,429 --> 01:11:42,557
Now But I guess I I guess my question is
1885
01:11:42,973 --> 01:11:43,389
behind it.
1886
01:11:43,389 --> 01:11:43,789
I don't know.
1887
01:11:43,789 --> 01:11:45,869
I'm just trying to think about what ifs.
1888
01:11:45,869 --> 01:11:48,429
So so I guess I guess the the there's 3 things.
1889
01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:48,829
Right?
1890
01:11:48,829 --> 01:11:54,429
So one, was there a problem with the the
product, or was it a problem with how they
1891
01:11:54,429 --> 01:11:55,005
promoted it?
1892
01:11:55,085 --> 01:11:56,145
That's the first question.
1893
01:11:56,204 --> 01:11:58,704
It's a problem with how they promoted it for
sure.
1894
01:11:58,764 --> 01:11:59,005
Okay.
1895
01:11:59,005 --> 01:12:03,725
So so I think we can all agree that there was
pretty probably pretty poorly promoted.
1896
01:12:03,725 --> 01:12:10,970
The second question is is how long are the top
100 guys really going to last, and what kind of
1897
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:12,170
turnover are we gonna see?
1898
01:12:12,170 --> 01:12:16,570
Are we gonna see based on the field sizes from
I mean, the majority of the tournaments are
1899
01:12:16,570 --> 01:12:22,170
gonna be a 120 man fields, which means 10 of
the 20 guys on the Korn Ferry Tour get in.
1900
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:25,314
The other 10 just don't, and they're just not
playing.
1901
01:12:25,314 --> 01:12:26,435
But that's what I'm saying.
1902
01:12:26,435 --> 01:12:30,215
You're going to have turnover, but the
replacement for that turnover
1903
01:12:30,755 --> 01:12:31,494
Very small.
1904
01:12:31,715 --> 01:12:36,594
It's small, but I think the upside is the
longevity of of who the replacements are gonna
1905
01:12:36,594 --> 01:12:37,020
be.
1906
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:37,739
Yes.
1907
01:12:37,739 --> 01:12:43,899
You are going to cut out the hero story of a 35
year old that like the movie Rudy that breaks
1908
01:12:43,899 --> 01:12:48,399
through after years of grinding and going to
cuscole 25 fucking times.
1909
01:12:48,779 --> 01:12:52,034
That's this rare little demographic, and we
love those stories.
1910
01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:52,275
But
1911
01:12:52,435 --> 01:12:54,195
So is the young breakout guy.
1912
01:12:54,195 --> 01:12:56,114
It's just as it's just as rare to see
1913
01:12:56,275 --> 01:13:00,914
But if you're a gambling man, you'd bet on
those guys more than you would bet on, a guy in
1914
01:13:00,914 --> 01:13:01,815
his mid thirties.
1915
01:13:02,289 --> 01:13:02,449
Certainly.
1916
01:13:02,449 --> 01:13:04,609
But it's all it's also about time under
tension.
1917
01:13:04,609 --> 01:13:05,250
I mean, you know this.
1918
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:07,029
I mean, you live you live plenty away.
1919
01:13:07,489 --> 01:13:12,050
You're not gonna you're not gonna walk into the
gym and grab a 500 pound squat and just and rep
1920
01:13:12,050 --> 01:13:12,529
it out.
1921
01:13:12,529 --> 01:13:12,770
Right?
1922
01:13:12,770 --> 01:13:14,130
You gotta build to that point.
1923
01:13:14,130 --> 01:13:14,449
Right?
1924
01:13:14,449 --> 01:13:16,695
So, I mean well, you know, if you're like you.
1925
01:13:16,695 --> 01:13:17,175
Right?
1926
01:13:17,175 --> 01:13:17,494
No.
1927
01:13:17,494 --> 01:13:22,454
I I don't do that at all, but I've seen some
people have some severe anger issues and do
1928
01:13:22,454 --> 01:13:24,454
that from the get, and that's their outlet.
1929
01:13:24,454 --> 01:13:24,695
But no.
1930
01:13:24,695 --> 01:13:25,814
I mean, think about this.
1931
01:13:25,814 --> 01:13:25,975
Right?
1932
01:13:25,975 --> 01:13:31,020
I mean, if you if you're gonna if you're gonna
talk about the product and trimming the fat, I
1933
01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:31,820
totally disagree.
1934
01:13:31,820 --> 01:13:35,739
Decrease the amount of Monday qualifying spots,
decrease the amount of sponsors exemptions, but
1935
01:13:35,739 --> 01:13:39,979
don't take don't take away from the guys that
that just spent a year on the Korn Ferry Tour
1936
01:13:39,979 --> 01:13:40,960
making no money.
1937
01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:44,539
They finally realize their dream, and then they
get to the PGA Tour and they go, wow.
1938
01:13:44,539 --> 01:13:48,024
I've gotta wait 4 months before I get 2 starts
in a row.
1939
01:13:48,024 --> 01:13:48,425
Okay.
1940
01:13:48,425 --> 01:13:49,784
That's fucking crazy.
1941
01:13:49,784 --> 01:13:51,064
So here's what I would say then.
1942
01:13:51,064 --> 01:13:56,204
So if you guys are gambling people, if you what
would you put money on right now?
1943
01:13:56,505 --> 01:14:02,770
Would you put money on the current system
producing, a better field 10 years from now or
1944
01:14:02,770 --> 01:14:03,989
what they're going to?
1945
01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:06,949
What do you say that again?
1946
01:14:07,090 --> 01:14:09,829
Would you put money on the current setup?
1947
01:14:10,210 --> 01:14:15,614
In 10 years' time, are you gonna have stronger
fields under the current system, even if it's
1948
01:14:15,614 --> 01:14:16,095
smaller?
1949
01:14:16,095 --> 01:14:16,814
Without a doubt.
1950
01:14:16,814 --> 01:14:21,074
Or are you gonna have stronger fields, under
the new system?
1951
01:14:21,295 --> 01:14:27,135
Because the requirements to excel are going to
be so much harder that the cream at the top,
1952
01:14:27,135 --> 01:14:31,300
what you're gonna I mean, I I think there's a
chance that could elevate people and people
1953
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:34,519
that are really fucking amazing, like, they're
gonna excel.
1954
01:14:34,579 --> 01:14:37,800
I I don't think that I think that it it
operates on a false premise.
1955
01:14:37,939 --> 01:14:38,819
You said it yourself.
1956
01:14:38,819 --> 01:14:40,179
You said there's ATM machines.
1957
01:14:40,179 --> 01:14:41,939
Like, they're getting rid of the ATM machines.
1958
01:14:41,939 --> 01:14:44,774
They're getting rid of guys that can just hang
out.
1959
01:14:45,474 --> 01:14:45,715
And
1960
01:14:45,954 --> 01:14:50,514
Oh, but those guys those guys have been inside
the top 100 for for quite some time, and they
1961
01:14:50,514 --> 01:14:51,074
get to stay there.
1962
01:14:51,074 --> 01:14:52,354
I understand what they're trying
1963
01:14:52,354 --> 01:14:52,635
to do.
1964
01:14:52,755 --> 01:14:57,234
Because the turnover but the the turnover is is
what they're is what they're trying to get rid
1965
01:14:57,234 --> 01:14:57,659
of.
1966
01:14:57,739 --> 01:15:01,260
They're trying to get rid of the turnover with
everything that they've done, and that's and
1967
01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:04,079
that's why, you know, we talk about all these
stars.
1968
01:15:04,460 --> 01:15:04,780
Right?
1969
01:15:04,780 --> 01:15:05,820
We talk about, oh, yeah.
1970
01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:06,780
Give me all these guys.
1971
01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:12,425
And and listen, Brian, I I totally dis I don't
disagree that that it's it's fun to watch a guy
1972
01:15:12,425 --> 01:15:18,664
win 6, 7 times, but I can guarantee you on on
Scottie's 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th win, everybody
1973
01:15:18,664 --> 01:15:21,085
was like, is there anybody else around?
1974
01:15:22,264 --> 01:15:22,744
No?
1975
01:15:22,744 --> 01:15:23,224
Okay.
1976
01:15:23,224 --> 01:15:23,724
Click.
1977
01:15:24,184 --> 01:15:29,800
Like, it's it's just it's it's boring to watch
already because they're boring, but I just I
1978
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:36,520
just don't see how the product was so bad that
they decided that they they had to do something
1979
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:36,840
about it.
1980
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,979
I also don't love getting rid of the Monday
queues.
1981
01:15:40,175 --> 01:15:45,215
That to me that that Monday queues bring up
some of the best stories.
1982
01:15:45,215 --> 01:15:49,534
And what's hilarious is there's, like, their
stats that they threw behind getting rid of the
1983
01:15:49,534 --> 01:15:56,239
Monday queues, by the way, it was, like, 65%
don't make it past the, past the cut.
1984
01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:56,399
Yeah.
1985
01:15:56,399 --> 01:15:57,380
They don't make the cut.
1986
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,560
However, how many PGA Tour members don't make
the cut?
1987
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,520
Like, look at that percentage because you still
caught the majority of guys don't make the cut
1988
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,560
on a week to week basis.
1989
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,885
But out of a 100 guys that have ever Monday
qualified for a PGA Tour event, how many of
1990
01:16:10,885 --> 01:16:15,204
those guys ever turn that into a career on the
PGA Tour?
1991
01:16:15,204 --> 01:16:20,085
If you think about it from a media perspective,
but you think about it from a media
1992
01:16:20,085 --> 01:16:25,289
perspective, that can be your quick hit that
gets you a great story.
1993
01:16:25,289 --> 01:16:27,729
And it's a lot of money that that goes that
that we're
1994
01:16:27,729 --> 01:16:28,729
trading something here.
1995
01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:29,649
Sections as well.
1996
01:16:29,649 --> 01:16:29,970
Right?
1997
01:16:29,970 --> 01:16:31,909
You're trading the hero story in.
1998
01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:33,010
Fran makes a good point.
1999
01:16:33,010 --> 01:16:33,329
They do.
2000
01:16:33,329 --> 01:16:33,489
No.
2001
01:16:33,489 --> 01:16:38,055
I'm I'm on board, but I think you're trading
the hero story for the potential to watch an
2002
01:16:38,055 --> 01:16:43,175
event 10 years from now where the the guy
that's ranked 60th and he's in the field can
2003
01:16:43,175 --> 01:16:45,435
still win the golf tournament, and he's known.
2004
01:16:45,814 --> 01:16:47,335
So, Brian, here here's the thing.
2005
01:16:47,335 --> 01:16:52,020
So Brian Shane, one of our audience members, he
says, so you're telling me that people got
2006
01:16:52,020 --> 01:16:53,460
bored watching Tiger dominate?
2007
01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:57,219
Because if you're watching Scottie win 6 to 8
times in a season, it's boring.
2008
01:16:57,219 --> 01:16:58,520
I respectfully disagree.
2009
01:16:58,579 --> 01:16:59,079
Same.
2010
01:16:59,699 --> 01:17:02,545
I I It is boring.
2011
01:17:02,545 --> 01:17:03,364
He's boring.
2012
01:17:03,984 --> 01:17:04,864
But here's the thing.
2013
01:17:04,864 --> 01:17:06,864
I do like seeing guys win a lot.
2014
01:17:06,864 --> 01:17:07,425
Fuck yeah.
2015
01:17:07,425 --> 01:17:08,225
He's incredible.
2016
01:17:08,225 --> 01:17:09,505
And I love Scottie Scheffler,
2017
01:17:09,505 --> 01:17:12,564
but he was not I see LeBron or, like, Kobe
dominate.
2018
01:17:12,625 --> 01:17:13,505
It's getting old.
2019
01:17:13,505 --> 01:17:18,949
The whole point the whole point of this is that
I don't think shrinking the game makes the
2020
01:17:18,949 --> 01:17:19,850
product better.
2021
01:17:20,789 --> 01:17:23,449
And that's and that's where I think time will
tell.
2022
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:25,270
They're they're trying to make a better
product.
2023
01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:26,710
They're trying to have a deeper field.
2024
01:17:26,710 --> 01:17:29,750
I just think get innovative rather than just
shrinking the game.
2025
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:31,574
The because that that's the easy thing to do.
2026
01:17:31,735 --> 01:17:33,574
Have the same TV coverage, by the way.
2027
01:17:33,574 --> 01:17:36,295
They're still not gonna show 99% of the guys.
2028
01:17:36,295 --> 01:17:37,215
So what do you mean?
2029
01:17:37,335 --> 01:17:37,895
Data, though.
2030
01:17:37,895 --> 01:17:40,534
Like, these guys are not like, this goes back
to what I was saying.
2031
01:17:40,534 --> 01:17:44,949
You guys are saying good old boys club, but
this is still based on data.
2032
01:17:44,949 --> 01:17:49,609
And if they sit down and look at it, I'm sure
we would be fucking shocked to see, alright,
2033
01:17:49,829 --> 01:17:51,449
120 guys get it, like, whatever.
2034
01:17:51,909 --> 01:17:53,350
Every year, there's a yes.
2035
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:59,625
There's 2 or 3 fucking exceptions, but most,
you never hear from them again.
2036
01:18:00,005 --> 01:18:00,984
Like, they're gone.
2037
01:18:01,045 --> 01:18:03,225
And, yeah, they got the chance to get that.
2038
01:18:03,764 --> 01:18:05,385
I think that's probably true.
2039
01:18:05,444 --> 01:18:07,864
Every every major sport.
2040
01:18:08,085 --> 01:18:08,725
I I know.
2041
01:18:08,725 --> 01:18:15,380
Every major sport is about entertainment and
media because that is how you build a fan base.
2042
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,380
And that's how you get people interested.
2043
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,319
And here's the thing.
2044
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:19,600
There are fans out there.
2045
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,039
They might not be the majority.
2046
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:26,479
They might be in the minority, but that
absolutely live to watch the PGA tour for the
2047
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:31,185
no name guys breaking through and potentially
winning a big golf tournament and potentially
2048
01:18:31,185 --> 01:18:31,985
having a breakthrough.
2049
01:18:31,985 --> 01:18:36,945
It's why I talk about, okay, could this guy be
a breakthrough player if he wins?
2050
01:18:36,945 --> 01:18:37,265
Right?
2051
01:18:37,265 --> 01:18:41,920
Because I wanna give the audience the ability
to go, oh, this is a name that I should
2052
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,319
remember.
2053
01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:42,800
For sure.
2054
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:49,840
This is a name that we should absolutely be
entertained by and start to watch a little bit
2055
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,119
closer when it comes to offense.
2056
01:18:51,119 --> 01:18:52,720
Brian is on board with what I'm saying.
2057
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,720
He's like, well, then you're in it for the
entertainment, not performance.
2058
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,539
That's correct.
2059
01:18:55,574 --> 01:18:56,135
That's correct.
2060
01:18:56,135 --> 01:18:57,574
This is the only sport you can do this.
2061
01:18:57,574 --> 01:19:00,074
You can't go Monday qualify and play on the
Yankees.
2062
01:19:00,454 --> 01:19:04,454
Like, you're gonna spend years in a foreign
team and be selected out of thousands of people
2063
01:19:04,454 --> 01:19:07,595
that maybe get a chance to get brought up and
play in a fucking game.
2064
01:19:07,655 --> 01:19:12,260
And then in that game, if you fuck up, if
you're going right back down and you may never
2065
01:19:12,260 --> 01:19:17,800
sniff a career in the big leagues, I don't
blame the PGA Tour for trying to take a similar
2066
01:19:17,859 --> 01:19:19,800
route to improve their product.
2067
01:19:19,939 --> 01:19:22,944
We hate it because it's not what we're used to.
2068
01:19:22,944 --> 01:19:27,844
But what you're saying is going from a 125
players down to a 100 does that?
2069
01:19:28,465 --> 01:19:30,225
It it's not this is the start of it.
2070
01:19:30,225 --> 01:19:31,505
I think this tips the iceberg.
2071
01:19:31,505 --> 01:19:36,329
It makes it's basically saying, if you wanna
play out here, you're gonna have to be
2072
01:19:36,329 --> 01:19:37,929
absolutely fucking insane.
2073
01:19:37,929 --> 01:19:39,210
Like, you're going They are.
2074
01:19:39,210 --> 01:19:40,270
All of them are.
2075
01:19:40,329 --> 01:19:40,969
Well, they're not.
2076
01:19:40,969 --> 01:19:41,789
They are incredible.
2077
01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:42,329
They are.
2078
01:19:42,329 --> 01:19:47,465
They're top of they're 0.0001% of golfers,
period.
2079
01:19:47,465 --> 01:19:50,045
If that was the case, you wouldn't have
dominant players.
2080
01:19:50,824 --> 01:19:51,625
What do you mean?
2081
01:19:51,625 --> 01:19:53,064
You wouldn't have dominant players.
2082
01:19:53,064 --> 01:19:54,557
I think there's just a consistent team.
2083
01:19:54,824 --> 01:19:55,704
Players in every sport.
2084
01:19:55,704 --> 01:20:01,864
It's the guys who because everybody who's in
that top 125 is good enough to win a PGA Tour
2085
01:20:01,864 --> 01:20:02,279
event.
2086
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,599
The thing to me is that there are guys that
learn how to become very consistent in what
2087
01:20:08,599 --> 01:20:09,319
they do.
2088
01:20:09,319 --> 01:20:13,800
And those are the guys that end up in the top
20, top 10, top 5.
2089
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,804
And those are the guys that win on multiple
occasions.
2090
01:20:16,804 --> 01:20:20,645
It's and the difference we can agree the
difference between them and the guy that's a
2091
01:20:20,645 --> 01:20:23,844
120th is this fucking big, but that's
everything in golf.
2092
01:20:23,844 --> 01:20:24,885
That's just our sport.
2093
01:20:24,885 --> 01:20:29,539
You know what you're also going to potentially
lose in this are the names.
2094
01:20:29,539 --> 01:20:35,300
You're potentially gonna lose think of a guy
like Jordan Spieth, for instance, who went
2095
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:39,939
through a very big low of recent, and he's
starting to get it back.
2096
01:20:39,939 --> 01:20:40,100
Right?
2097
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:41,060
A little by little.
2098
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:46,175
But if he dropped out of the top 100 players
2099
01:20:46,635 --> 01:20:46,795
No.
2100
01:20:46,795 --> 01:20:47,675
He's a life member.
2101
01:20:47,675 --> 01:20:48,314
So he's in.
2102
01:20:48,314 --> 01:20:48,554
Yeah.
2103
01:20:48,554 --> 01:20:49,274
I I get it.
2104
01:20:49,274 --> 01:20:50,975
It's a bad it's a bad example.
2105
01:20:51,675 --> 01:20:54,795
But you lose a name and it's like
2106
01:20:54,875 --> 01:20:55,675
Dustin Thomas.
2107
01:20:55,675 --> 01:20:59,789
Well, you're you're not you're saying you're
losing a name, but the only reason that you can
2108
01:20:59,789 --> 01:21:04,989
say you're losing a name is because at one
point, he excelled on on such a level that
2109
01:21:04,989 --> 01:21:05,710
you're aware
2110
01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:06,270
of that.
2111
01:21:06,270 --> 01:21:08,109
I mean, Branch has brought up Justin Thomas.
2112
01:21:08,109 --> 01:21:09,229
That's a good example too.
2113
01:21:09,229 --> 01:21:10,369
He went through a lot.
2114
01:21:10,510 --> 01:21:11,024
Ricky Fowler
2115
01:21:11,389 --> 01:21:12,324
right about JT.
2116
01:21:12,324 --> 01:21:13,385
Like, that's an exception.
2117
01:21:13,444 --> 01:21:14,645
Ricky Fowler went through a lot.
2118
01:21:14,965 --> 01:21:15,684
Would be gone.
2119
01:21:15,684 --> 01:21:15,925
Yeah.
2120
01:21:15,925 --> 01:21:16,664
He'd be gone.
2121
01:21:16,804 --> 01:21:17,524
Ricky would.
2122
01:21:17,524 --> 01:21:22,564
But luckily luckily, we know who they are
because at one point, early on in their career
2123
01:21:22,804 --> 01:21:26,564
But the whole thing is you shrink the size of
the PGA Tour, you're gonna lose guys like that
2124
01:21:26,564 --> 01:21:27,064
potentially.
2125
01:21:27,204 --> 01:21:27,864
You could.
2126
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:30,619
And so so this is the question that I have for
you guys.
2127
01:21:30,619 --> 01:21:31,260
And that sucks.
2128
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:31,979
Do you think
2129
01:21:31,979 --> 01:21:32,380
do you
2130
01:21:32,380 --> 01:21:37,760
think that if they if they took let's say we
take the top 25 right now as it stands.
2131
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:38,560
Right?
2132
01:21:38,619 --> 01:21:42,300
And there I think there's a rookie or 2 in
there, but let's just say it's it's mostly
2133
01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:43,515
quote, unquote veteran guys.
2134
01:21:43,595 --> 01:21:45,695
Guys that have been in for 2 years or longer.
2135
01:21:45,914 --> 01:21:50,015
And you take those 25 guys, and 5 years from
now, you've got a different 25 guys.
2136
01:21:50,074 --> 01:21:55,354
Do you believe that those names from those 25
are gonna be more notable than those 25 guys at
2137
01:21:55,354 --> 01:21:56,015
that time?
2138
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,119
I didn't catch the the whole start to the Yeah.
2139
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,359
20 25 guys right now.
2140
01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:04,039
The top 25 guys right now.
2141
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:04,359
Yeah.
2142
01:22:04,359 --> 01:22:08,774
And we fast forward in 5 years, and you've got
a, quote, unquote, different 25 guys.
2143
01:22:09,094 --> 01:22:15,175
Do you think that those 5 got those those 25
guys right now, Rory, Jordan, Justin, Patrick,
2144
01:22:15,175 --> 01:22:21,734
all those guys, Scotty, right, in 5 years are
gonna have more or less notoriety than or
2145
01:22:21,734 --> 01:22:25,920
notability than those than the 25 guys in
2146
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:26,479
the future.
2147
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:33,220
You're gonna have 5 to 10 of them that make the
cut and stay relevant for that amount of time.
2148
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:38,005
And I'm gonna prophesize that they're probably
younger, the ones that do.
2149
01:22:38,005 --> 01:22:44,724
So so you so you believe that there's going to
be enough turnover to see that top 25 guys on
2150
01:22:44,724 --> 01:22:47,764
the PGA tour to be different and notable
enough.
2151
01:22:47,764 --> 01:22:50,264
But you said this a couple pods ago.
2152
01:22:50,619 --> 01:22:51,279
You know?
2153
01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:56,460
Guys that come out that are Jon Rahms, I mean,
you can change the and this is another point.
2154
01:22:56,460 --> 01:22:56,699
Right?
2155
01:22:56,699 --> 01:22:59,680
You can change the landscape and make it harder
all you want.
2156
01:22:59,819 --> 01:23:05,439
The fact of the matter is these great talents
just may not occur.
2157
01:23:05,944 --> 01:23:12,765
Like, you just might not have enough guys to
rise to the cream to be, like, crazy fucking,
2158
01:23:12,824 --> 01:23:15,225
you know, all star, multiple tour winners.
2159
01:23:15,225 --> 01:23:19,244
You might just have to, like, let some of these
guys in it because they just don't exist.
2160
01:23:20,190 --> 01:23:24,130
Like like you said, there's not a lot of Jon
Rahms that are that are coming out every year.
2161
01:23:24,270 --> 01:23:25,310
Oh, I don't I listen.
2162
01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:27,229
I don't disagree, but at at the end of the
2163
01:23:27,229 --> 01:23:27,869
day, you're
2164
01:23:27,869 --> 01:23:28,590
talking yeah.
2165
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:29,070
Exactly.
2166
01:23:29,070 --> 01:23:29,949
Well, I don't I don't
2167
01:23:29,949 --> 01:23:34,829
I don't disagree with your with your with your
explanation of of of that point.
2168
01:23:34,829 --> 01:23:38,425
But I think the problem is is is what are we
trying to accomplish?
2169
01:23:38,804 --> 01:23:44,804
And as as a as a PGA Tour member currently, I
mean, you know, whatever, the that at the end
2170
01:23:44,804 --> 01:23:48,720
of the day, they're clearly showing that they
want a closed shop.
2171
01:23:49,119 --> 01:23:49,440
Yes.
2172
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:52,479
And the problem is is they have no explanation
for it.
2173
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,979
They just say, well, it's because of daylight
or whatever.
2174
01:23:55,119 --> 01:23:59,520
But whomever it is, by the way, whether it's a
corporate structure or the just the players
2175
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,244
sitting in a backroom, which I had to hate to
tell you, Josh, it is just those 6 6 players
2176
01:24:04,244 --> 01:24:05,845
sitting in a backroom.
2177
01:24:06,645 --> 01:24:07,405
But at the beginning
2178
01:24:07,604 --> 01:24:08,805
the data, though.
2179
01:24:08,805 --> 01:24:09,445
Call me about it.
2180
01:24:09,445 --> 01:24:10,244
Well, they're being no.
2181
01:24:10,244 --> 01:24:17,940
They they they they directed they directed the
PGA Tour to make up a subcommittee to create
2182
01:24:18,180 --> 01:24:19,699
oh, what what reason can we have?
2183
01:24:19,699 --> 01:24:20,340
Oh, daylight.
2184
01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:20,739
Okay.
2185
01:24:20,739 --> 01:24:23,779
Which, by the way, none of these guys play at
dark.
2186
01:24:23,779 --> 01:24:24,840
None of them do.
2187
01:24:24,899 --> 01:24:25,300
Right?
2188
01:24:25,300 --> 01:24:25,619
No.
2189
01:24:25,619 --> 01:24:26,260
So what what
2190
01:24:26,260 --> 01:24:30,579
would be the what would be the point other than
to to feed feed some gifts and bread crumbs
2191
01:24:30,739 --> 01:24:31,020
The money.
2192
01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:32,020
To the normal people.
2193
01:24:32,020 --> 01:24:32,520
Money.
2194
01:24:32,945 --> 01:24:33,105
Yeah.
2195
01:24:33,105 --> 01:24:35,105
But that's the point is that it's about keeping
2196
01:24:35,345 --> 01:24:39,905
He falls in sponsorship and, like, the amount
of massive companies are investing in the PGA
2197
01:24:39,905 --> 01:24:40,385
Tour.
2198
01:24:40,385 --> 01:24:41,505
And who's gonna carry
2199
01:24:41,664 --> 01:24:42,885
Less and less per year.
2200
01:24:43,105 --> 01:24:43,265
No.
2201
01:24:43,265 --> 01:24:43,824
I understand.
2202
01:24:43,824 --> 01:24:48,220
But, like, you know, who's gonna carry the
torch longer in terms of a long term investment
2203
01:24:48,220 --> 01:24:49,180
from a huge company?
2204
01:24:49,180 --> 01:24:55,280
I mean, it's just not gonna it's not gonna be
the once in a lifetime hero situation.
2205
01:24:56,380 --> 01:24:58,814
I just don't here's the whole thing.
2206
01:24:58,895 --> 01:25:03,074
I don't think the product gets better by going
from 125 down to a 100.
2207
01:25:03,375 --> 01:25:11,314
I don't think more, like, you become more known
about guys that are in 50th to 100.
2208
01:25:11,854 --> 01:25:16,810
I just think that they are closing down the
number of players to make it more of a closed
2209
01:25:16,810 --> 01:25:17,289
system.
2210
01:25:17,289 --> 01:25:19,229
It's not gonna be any more entertaining.
2211
01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:28,635
I do believe that this is a move that is for
the membership of the guys who are currently
2212
01:25:28,635 --> 01:25:32,574
members and in a good position in terms of
being in the top 50.
2213
01:25:33,194 --> 01:25:34,395
And But if you're gonna do
2214
01:25:34,395 --> 01:25:37,295
that, wouldn't you chop way more than 20 off
the top?
2215
01:25:37,514 --> 01:25:38,234
Like if That wouldn't
2216
01:25:38,395 --> 01:25:39,034
that wouldn't fly.
2217
01:25:39,034 --> 01:25:39,194
No.
2218
01:25:39,194 --> 01:25:39,514
They can't.
2219
01:25:39,514 --> 01:25:39,675
That
2220
01:25:39,675 --> 01:25:39,994
wouldn't fly.
2221
01:25:40,074 --> 01:25:41,034
Can't go any further.
2222
01:25:41,034 --> 01:25:41,279
Right?
2223
01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:41,599
So
2224
01:25:41,599 --> 01:25:42,359
so this is not it.
2225
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:42,960
First move.
2226
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,000
This is the this is the start.
2227
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:44,639
I see what you're saying.
2228
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:45,039
Exactly.
2229
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:45,119
So
2230
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:46,239
I mean, they're already
2231
01:25:46,239 --> 01:25:46,960
not touched.
2232
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:47,520
Go ahead.
2233
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,899
Their goal is to get down to what LIV is at
about 80 players.
2234
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:55,555
The number of players for signature series
events, then they're gonna get rid of cuts
2235
01:25:55,555 --> 01:26:00,354
entirely, and it's just gonna be a tour of 80
players that basically you see the same guy
2236
01:26:00,354 --> 01:26:02,854
once time and time again.
2237
01:26:03,155 --> 01:26:06,534
And here's the thing, is it necessarily a
terrible thing?
2238
01:26:07,234 --> 01:26:16,869
It sucks for getting to experience because who
knows what golfers we are going to miss out on
2239
01:26:16,930 --> 01:26:18,210
through that format.
2240
01:26:18,210 --> 01:26:19,189
It's gonna be terrible.
2241
01:26:19,970 --> 01:26:22,289
Trot says, why would a company sponsor a tour
event?
2242
01:26:22,289 --> 01:26:22,530
I mean
2243
01:26:22,895 --> 01:26:23,454
Great question.
2244
01:26:23,454 --> 01:26:25,694
That's pretty, I mean, pretty simple answer.
2245
01:26:25,694 --> 01:26:30,814
You know, you're hyper focused on a high
earning demographic, and it's probably one of
2246
01:26:30,814 --> 01:26:32,814
the best tax write offs for a company that can
afford it
2247
01:26:32,975 --> 01:26:34,255
They don't to market close.
2248
01:26:34,335 --> 01:26:37,229
Get back they don't get back anywhere near the
investment.
2249
01:26:37,229 --> 01:26:38,030
Well, they don't have to.
2250
01:26:38,030 --> 01:26:39,390
It's a fucking tax write off.
2251
01:26:39,390 --> 01:26:46,109
And and nowhere else in the world can you put
money into an event that is a tax write off to
2252
01:26:46,109 --> 01:26:52,775
hyperfocus your company on on a certain
demographic, which is, you know, 22 to 50 and a
2253
01:26:52,775 --> 01:26:55,034
massive, household income.
2254
01:26:55,494 --> 01:26:57,335
But you could also They have their data that
2255
01:26:57,335 --> 01:26:58,475
sells to those guys.
2256
01:26:58,614 --> 01:26:58,935
Yeah.
2257
01:26:58,935 --> 01:26:59,335
For sure.
2258
01:26:59,335 --> 01:27:04,260
But, I mean I mean, I speak to I speak to the
people that are in charge of of sponsor
2259
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:08,639
relationships for for multiple different
tournaments, including including elevated
2260
01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:09,939
events like Jack's event.
2261
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:13,380
I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt,
sponsors are not happy.
2262
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:19,775
They're not happy at all because they're they
have to deal with the tour, basically doing
2263
01:27:19,775 --> 01:27:23,314
whatever they want and then telling the
sponsors you're gonna give us more money.
2264
01:27:24,414 --> 01:27:26,195
That that doesn't work.
2265
01:27:26,414 --> 01:27:28,114
I mean, it it's exactly.
2266
01:27:28,414 --> 01:27:29,395
What's a Zozo?
2267
01:27:30,095 --> 01:27:33,359
But, yeah, I mean, what's I have no idea what
Zozo is.
2268
01:27:33,359 --> 01:27:34,500
I used to know that.
2269
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,119
No.
2270
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:36,479
I'm with I'm I'm with you.
2271
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,100
But, like, for our purpose, Trot, you know, it
it's not for us.
2272
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:45,359
But it's not a bad place to spend your money if
you gotta get rid of a lot of money.
2273
01:27:45,359 --> 01:27:46,215
And Sure.
2274
01:27:46,375 --> 01:27:48,375
You'd like to market to that group of people.
2275
01:27:48,375 --> 01:27:49,975
For us, yes, you see through that.
2276
01:27:49,975 --> 01:27:53,895
But they also are business people that that
year in year out, if they're putting 1,000,000
2277
01:27:53,895 --> 01:27:57,255
and 1,000,000 of dollars away, they're gonna
have to they're gonna have to see it all.
2278
01:27:57,255 --> 01:27:57,335
Yeah.
2279
01:27:57,335 --> 01:27:59,255
You're gonna need you're gonna need to see
something out of it.
2280
01:27:59,255 --> 01:28:00,614
You're not gonna continue to see it.
2281
01:28:00,695 --> 01:28:00,935
Product.
2282
01:28:00,935 --> 01:28:05,630
And here's the thing, Just shrinking the tour
membership does not make a better product.
2283
01:28:05,630 --> 01:28:06,350
And I don't know.
2284
01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:11,789
I I mean, I think I'm with you, but I think
there's still some landscape to play out here
2285
01:28:11,789 --> 01:28:14,530
over the next few years as to whether or not
that's gonna be a 100
2286
01:28:16,595 --> 01:28:16,622
percent the case.
2287
01:28:16,622 --> 01:28:16,657
That's the problem, though.
2288
01:28:16,657 --> 01:28:16,666
Right?
2289
01:28:16,666 --> 01:28:20,755
So so and this is something I texted, our our a
good buddy of mine this morning.
2290
01:28:20,755 --> 01:28:26,515
I said it would be a huge mistake for them to
make this change and then just go about the
2291
01:28:26,515 --> 01:28:28,195
same way that they make every other change.
2292
01:28:28,195 --> 01:28:30,479
We'll say, we'll just wait and see if it works
out.
2293
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,399
Meanwhile, people are losing their jobs.
2294
01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:33,520
They're losing their income.
2295
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:38,800
They're they're they're having to find a whole
new different way to make money, and these are
2296
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,180
guys that that are perfectly capable of winning
on the PGA Tour.
2297
01:28:42,319 --> 01:28:46,954
Now going back to Matt's point, which I totally
agree with, if you can make the Korn Ferry Tour
2298
01:28:47,015 --> 01:28:49,015
a better product, then great.
2299
01:28:49,015 --> 01:28:50,875
But here's here's what's gonna suck.
2300
01:28:51,175 --> 01:28:55,895
If they don't improve the the media side and
and and the cameras and all that other stuff
2301
01:28:55,895 --> 01:28:59,840
and and getting to know every they better get
to know every single one of those 100
2302
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:00,340
motherfuckers.
2303
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:05,439
Otherwise, it's gonna be right back to where it
was where you get 5 guys on the TV, and that's
2304
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:06,239
all you know.
2305
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,439
And then everybody's sitting there going, okay.
2306
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:10,399
So nothing's changed.
2307
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:12,074
Well, it's been that way forever, Brent.
2308
01:29:12,155 --> 01:29:13,055
And it's been that way
2309
01:29:13,114 --> 01:29:14,155
for the long time.
2310
01:29:14,155 --> 01:29:17,755
I would say since since since Jay Monahan took
over, it's been that way.
2311
01:29:17,755 --> 01:29:18,235
For a long time
2312
01:29:18,475 --> 01:29:20,815
It's been that way since fucking 2000?
2313
01:29:21,435 --> 01:29:21,914
No.
2314
01:29:21,914 --> 01:29:22,315
For a long
2315
01:29:22,315 --> 01:29:25,295
time, it was there were plenty of guys that we
got to know over the years.
2316
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:26,319
Plenty of guys.
2317
01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:26,560
Hey, God.
2318
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,560
I wanna get to this one by Brian here.
2319
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,060
Okay.
2320
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,060
Let me ask this.
2321
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:33,520
Should Liv expand their fields?
2322
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,800
What would make Liv better?
2323
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,800
I've got a very simple answer to this.
2324
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:37,600
First of all, yes.
2325
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:42,935
They need to they need to expand the number of
teams that they have, as franchises.
2326
01:29:43,795 --> 01:29:47,015
However, how do they make the live product
better?
2327
01:29:47,475 --> 01:29:49,795
Actually, have the teams play against each
other.
2328
01:29:49,795 --> 01:29:50,295
Same.
2329
01:29:50,675 --> 01:29:51,810
That is the key.
2330
01:29:52,050 --> 01:29:55,649
If they just do it as an individual golf
tournament to where there's a team aspect, it's
2331
01:29:55,649 --> 01:29:57,409
never going to gain the traction that it needs.
2332
01:29:57,409 --> 01:29:58,069
And shotgun.
2333
01:29:58,210 --> 01:29:59,810
I'm with you on that a 100.
2334
01:29:59,810 --> 01:30:00,130
Yeah.
2335
01:30:00,130 --> 01:30:00,710
A 100%.
2336
01:30:00,850 --> 01:30:01,090
We need
2337
01:30:01,090 --> 01:30:03,649
to see and and that's one of the interesting
things, by the way.
2338
01:30:03,649 --> 01:30:06,755
And we do need to wrap up this particular
segment.
2339
01:30:07,295 --> 01:30:11,774
But that being said, this is gonna move us into
LIV Golf really quick because there's a couple
2340
01:30:11,774 --> 01:30:12,675
updates there.
2341
01:30:13,375 --> 01:30:20,655
But I do want to mention, as far as LIV Golf is
concerned actually, we're just gonna get right
2342
01:30:20,655 --> 01:30:21,630
into LIV Golf.
2343
01:30:22,510 --> 01:30:28,210
With LIV Golf, Greg Norman's contract is
expiring in August of 2025.
2344
01:30:28,510 --> 01:30:29,329
That's facts.
2345
01:30:29,469 --> 01:30:30,289
That's facts.
2346
01:30:30,350 --> 01:30:33,810
He actually went on, and had an interview with
Sports Illustrated.
2347
01:30:34,109 --> 01:30:38,774
The other interesting fact that I found out
from that interview, which I didn't get it from
2348
01:30:38,774 --> 01:30:46,375
my sources, this is from the Sports Illustrated
interview, is that Greg has had no knowledge of
2349
01:30:46,375 --> 01:30:47,895
the negotiations whatsoever.
2350
01:30:47,895 --> 01:30:50,715
They have kept him out of the entire thing.
2351
01:30:50,989 --> 01:30:52,909
On his way out as they probably would.
2352
01:30:52,909 --> 01:30:53,550
He's on his way.
2353
01:30:53,550 --> 01:30:53,789
Yeah.
2354
01:30:53,789 --> 01:30:54,430
It's over.
2355
01:30:54,430 --> 01:30:57,310
He was he was he was meant to to serve a
purpose.
2356
01:30:57,310 --> 01:30:57,550
Yeah.
2357
01:30:57,550 --> 01:30:58,670
And he served that purpose.
2358
01:30:58,670 --> 01:30:58,909
And he
2359
01:30:58,909 --> 01:31:00,750
got his paycheck, and it's and he's done.
2360
01:31:00,750 --> 01:31:02,689
I mean, have you seen those beach pictures?
2361
01:31:02,829 --> 01:31:05,229
I mean, he was the BSD out there.
2362
01:31:05,229 --> 01:31:06,850
Just hammer fist and shit.
2363
01:31:07,444 --> 01:31:09,764
I mean, guys should absolutely wear underwear.
2364
01:31:09,764 --> 01:31:14,724
He was the, the face forward figure had to
launch the whole thing, and now they don't need
2365
01:31:14,724 --> 01:31:15,284
them anymore.
2366
01:31:15,284 --> 01:31:18,244
They needed an ego guy to get that thing
started.
2367
01:31:18,244 --> 01:31:19,364
And he was the guy.
2368
01:31:19,364 --> 01:31:19,739
Yep.
2369
01:31:20,619 --> 01:31:22,940
So those are the 2 big ones there.
2370
01:31:22,940 --> 01:31:30,699
And that really bodes the question that, okay,
if he's gone after well, in in 2025, and he's
2371
01:31:30,699 --> 01:31:34,560
just looking to build out the schedule through
2025.
2372
01:31:35,914 --> 01:31:38,095
He said that's his main objective right now.
2373
01:31:38,475 --> 01:31:41,295
Does Liv actually survive past 2025?
2374
01:31:41,835 --> 01:31:42,074
Yeah.
2375
01:31:42,074 --> 01:31:43,034
Because here's what they do.
2376
01:31:43,034 --> 01:31:43,994
I'm gonna tell you right now.
2377
01:31:43,994 --> 01:31:44,975
They take the sheik.
2378
01:31:45,515 --> 01:31:46,015
K?
2379
01:31:46,154 --> 01:31:47,375
The the head financier.
2380
01:31:47,595 --> 01:31:48,300
What's his name?
2381
01:31:48,539 --> 01:31:49,920
Yasser El Rumaiya.
2382
01:31:50,059 --> 01:31:53,679
At every fucking event, he comes out with a
parade of elephants.
2383
01:31:53,979 --> 01:31:58,619
And on the front elephant, he's up there, and
he's on a little velvet bed that looks like a
2384
01:31:58,619 --> 01:31:59,439
magic carpet.
2385
01:31:59,500 --> 01:32:03,760
And there's people on top of there standing up
there, and they're wafting it with palm fronds.
2386
01:32:03,899 --> 01:32:05,204
And And that's how they kick off every
2387
01:32:05,444 --> 01:32:06,344
Sounds like Aladdin.
2388
01:32:07,045 --> 01:32:07,524
Love that.
2389
01:32:07,524 --> 01:32:08,804
I don't know what that is, but
2390
01:32:08,885 --> 01:32:09,685
Sounds great.
2391
01:32:09,685 --> 01:32:09,925
Yeah.
2392
01:32:09,925 --> 01:32:10,725
I've never seen that.
2393
01:32:10,725 --> 01:32:14,264
I think that would, make a lot more people
interested.
2394
01:32:15,764 --> 01:32:20,640
Oh, the other part that before I was gonna get
into the live golf updates is the TGL.
2395
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:26,159
This is this is the magical piece that I think
people are overlooking.
2396
01:32:26,460 --> 01:32:29,659
I think people look at golf simulators and so
forth.
2397
01:32:29,659 --> 01:32:32,300
I actually think this no.
2398
01:32:32,300 --> 01:32:33,199
Here's the thing.
2399
01:32:33,555 --> 01:32:39,414
I think this could be because they're about to
do what LIV Golf should be doing.
2400
01:32:39,475 --> 01:32:44,994
Teams are playing against each other, and it is
in a match play type of setup.
2401
01:32:44,994 --> 01:32:46,274
I think the format sucks,
2402
01:32:46,274 --> 01:32:46,835
to be honest.
2403
01:32:46,835 --> 01:32:47,335
Simulator.
2404
01:32:47,555 --> 01:32:47,795
No.
2405
01:32:47,795 --> 01:32:48,114
Yeah.
2406
01:32:48,114 --> 01:32:50,300
But it is a massive screen.
2407
01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:52,159
Do you know how big the screen is?
2408
01:32:52,539 --> 01:32:53,500
I don't have any idea.
2409
01:32:53,500 --> 01:32:56,859
My buddy my my buddy is is their head of player
relations.
2410
01:32:56,859 --> 01:32:57,420
I'll ask.
2411
01:32:57,420 --> 01:32:59,260
I'll I'll find out some more information.
2412
01:32:59,260 --> 01:33:00,460
Some dimensions on that.
2413
01:33:00,460 --> 01:33:04,274
The dimensions are like 10 times the size of a
movie theater screen.
2414
01:33:04,435 --> 01:33:05,554
IMAX of golf.
2415
01:33:05,554 --> 01:33:06,774
It is massive.
2416
01:33:07,635 --> 01:33:09,654
So But it's still a simulator.
2417
01:33:10,994 --> 01:33:11,234
So
2418
01:33:11,234 --> 01:33:15,814
they are hitting from far enough back, and
they're using top tracer technology for it.
2419
01:33:16,034 --> 01:33:22,270
They did switch from the radar, the Doppler
radar from full swing to the actual.
2420
01:33:22,270 --> 01:33:27,409
So they're going to be hitting, I think, from,
like, 20, 30 yards back from the screen.
2421
01:33:27,630 --> 01:33:30,449
I mean, Brent, some would say we live in a
simulation, so.
2422
01:33:32,935 --> 01:33:34,854
But they're gonna be playing to a real green.
2423
01:33:34,854 --> 01:33:35,814
What is real golf?
2424
01:33:35,814 --> 01:33:39,814
They're gonna be playing to a real green that
is a virtual green that is going to undulate
2425
01:33:39,814 --> 01:33:41,255
based off of what the undulation is.
2426
01:33:41,255 --> 01:33:41,574
And they
2427
01:33:41,574 --> 01:33:42,295
putt on that.
2428
01:33:42,295 --> 01:33:42,795
Yeah.
2429
01:33:43,015 --> 01:33:44,954
And they hit bunker shots and everything.
2430
01:33:45,494 --> 01:33:51,199
So I I actually think this is gonna be bigger
than what people think it is going to be.
2431
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:51,920
I agree with you.
2432
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:52,719
People are watching that.
2433
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:53,859
2.5 seconds.
2434
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:54,079
No.
2435
01:33:54,079 --> 01:33:55,199
People are gonna watch that, dude.
2436
01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:55,439
I don't
2437
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,079
think so, man.
2438
01:33:56,079 --> 01:33:58,819
They're gonna start consuming insurance for us.
2439
01:33:59,494 --> 01:34:02,534
They're not gonna be invested for, you know,
their entire weekend.
2440
01:34:02,534 --> 01:34:04,454
Like, they're gonna they're gonna get to watch
some shit.
2441
01:34:04,454 --> 01:34:04,614
But
2442
01:34:04,854 --> 01:34:06,614
And it's filling a dead period.
2443
01:34:06,614 --> 01:34:08,395
I mean, it's going to be on ESPN.
2444
01:34:09,414 --> 01:34:09,655
Yes.
2445
01:34:09,655 --> 01:34:10,375
And not a
2446
01:34:10,454 --> 01:34:11,034
The Ocho.
2447
01:34:11,095 --> 01:34:11,655
The Ocho.
2448
01:34:11,655 --> 01:34:11,895
No.
2449
01:34:11,895 --> 01:34:12,454
Not the Ocho.
2450
01:34:12,454 --> 01:34:12,720
No.
2451
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,560
Definitely not.
2452
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:14,000
Mainframe.
2453
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:14,500
ESPN.
2454
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:14,960
Yeah.
2455
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:15,460
Main.
2456
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,039
It's gonna be on Monday night.
2457
01:34:17,039 --> 01:34:23,680
So so walk so so these guys fly in on their
pj's on a Monday night, play some 20, 30 minute
2458
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,640
golf rounds and
2459
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:25,640
It's head to head matches.
2460
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:26,320
Out.
2461
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:26,640
Yeah.
2462
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,340
So it's team versus team.
2463
01:34:28,614 --> 01:34:32,454
There's no, oh, we're gonna have 3 or 4 teams
going up against each other tonight.
2464
01:34:32,454 --> 01:34:32,534
Yeah.
2465
01:34:32,534 --> 01:34:33,494
It's gonna be matters
2466
01:34:33,494 --> 01:34:34,375
if you're hitting team
2467
01:34:34,375 --> 01:34:34,935
versus team.
2468
01:34:34,935 --> 01:34:37,015
You gotta be the best one that hits into a
screen.
2469
01:34:37,015 --> 01:34:37,975
The format's weird, though.
2470
01:34:37,975 --> 01:34:39,175
It's not a straight match play.
2471
01:34:39,175 --> 01:34:44,729
And I I do that's the only thing I question
with this whole thing is will the format work?
2472
01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:48,470
They're going, like, 6 holes at a time with
different formats.
2473
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:48,789
Okay.
2474
01:34:48,789 --> 01:34:50,329
So it's, like, alternate shot.
2475
01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:56,390
It's, like, a I gotta look back into it because
it's been a year since I really had all the
2476
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:57,689
information around it.
2477
01:34:58,114 --> 01:35:01,395
But there's gonna be, like, 6 holes that are,
like, an alternate shot.
2478
01:35:01,395 --> 01:35:05,175
There's gonna be some other weird format in for
another 6 holes.
2479
01:35:06,194 --> 01:35:07,094
It'll be interesting.
2480
01:35:07,475 --> 01:35:07,954
I'll watch it.
2481
01:35:07,954 --> 01:35:08,614
It's true.
2482
01:35:09,554 --> 01:35:10,890
For about 2.5 seconds.
2483
01:35:10,970 --> 01:35:12,970
I'll gamble on it for sure if they got odds.
2484
01:35:12,970 --> 01:35:14,289
Well, we're gonna find out come January.
2485
01:35:14,489 --> 01:35:15,149
Watching it.
2486
01:35:15,289 --> 01:35:18,010
I think it's just an absolute money grab, to be
honest.
2487
01:35:18,010 --> 01:35:18,649
The whole thing is
2488
01:35:18,649 --> 01:35:19,449
a fucking money
2489
01:35:19,449 --> 01:35:19,770
grab.
2490
01:35:19,770 --> 01:35:20,489
I mean, my god.
2491
01:35:20,489 --> 01:35:20,649
No.
2492
01:35:20,649 --> 01:35:22,329
It wasn't for years, but
2493
01:35:22,570 --> 01:35:22,729
no.
2494
01:35:22,729 --> 01:35:28,194
But I I have been wanting as a tech guy who
comes from that industry.
2495
01:35:29,054 --> 01:35:31,295
I've been waiting for somebody to do this.
2496
01:35:31,295 --> 01:35:31,954
This is
2497
01:35:32,255 --> 01:35:37,534
this is the holy grail of what we always talked
about with indoor golf of being of hitting your
2498
01:35:37,534 --> 01:35:41,429
full shots in a simulator and then being able
to have your short game played out in real
2499
01:35:41,429 --> 01:35:41,929
life.
2500
01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:43,590
That's gonna be pretty damn sweet.
2501
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:43,750
Yeah.
2502
01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:44,389
You got it.
2503
01:35:44,389 --> 01:35:49,289
And only and only the top players in the world
are gonna get to do it.
2504
01:35:49,429 --> 01:35:52,329
Hopefully, there's going to be expansions and
more franchises.
2505
01:35:54,765 --> 01:35:55,265
But
2506
01:35:55,645 --> 01:35:59,725
they they don't remember these same people that
are in this organization are the same people
2507
01:35:59,725 --> 01:36:00,625
that just decreased.
2508
01:36:01,085 --> 01:36:03,485
I was just gonna say that's exactly the
formula.
2509
01:36:03,485 --> 01:36:04,765
Why are they doing it that way?
2510
01:36:04,765 --> 01:36:10,750
Like, oh, well, because we wanna watch the the
best ones.
2511
01:36:12,250 --> 01:36:14,489
We wanna watch the best ones.
2512
01:36:14,489 --> 01:36:15,369
That's what they think.
2513
01:36:15,369 --> 01:36:15,689
Right?
2514
01:36:15,689 --> 01:36:20,175
They think, well, we just the the golf fan only
wants to see the best players.
2515
01:36:20,175 --> 01:36:25,635
Well, let's say 99% of your average golf fan
only want to see the best players.
2516
01:36:26,014 --> 01:36:30,654
I can guarantee you that the if the product,
like you said, Bletzy, has been the same for so
2517
01:36:30,654 --> 01:36:35,680
many years, and it's only been viewed by the,
you know, the only top players getting viewed,
2518
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:36,800
then then what's the point?
2519
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,039
Whether it's a 125 or a
2520
01:36:39,039 --> 01:36:40,880
150 my personal rendition.
2521
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,840
Here's my here's how I consume golf personally.
2522
01:36:43,039 --> 01:36:43,760
Honestly, I was so awesome.
2523
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,860
I'm a I'm a huge fan of the game.
2524
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,195
I love watching the PGA Tour, but I watch
Sunday, and I watch the back 9.
2525
01:36:50,335 --> 01:36:51,295
And that's what I watch.
2526
01:36:51,295 --> 01:36:52,595
I don't watch the whole tournament.
2527
01:36:53,295 --> 01:36:56,675
I don't give a shit if I don't care about the
story.
2528
01:36:56,975 --> 01:37:02,269
I wanna watch what 6 dudes or or 10 dudes are
duking it out on Sunday coming down the
2529
01:37:02,269 --> 01:37:02,590
stretch.
2530
01:37:02,590 --> 01:37:04,849
And you're probably more interested if it's a
big name.
2531
01:37:05,309 --> 01:37:05,809
100%.
2532
01:37:06,670 --> 01:37:07,170
Absolutely.
2533
01:37:07,550 --> 01:37:13,069
And if somebody that wasn't a big name is now
the underdog, and they have a chance to
2534
01:37:13,069 --> 01:37:17,945
overtake the big name, It's like watching
NASCAR, baseball, any other fucking sport.
2535
01:37:18,085 --> 01:37:20,485
That's what I'm paying attention to, and that's
what I give a fuck about.
2536
01:37:20,565 --> 01:37:21,485
Is more compelling.
2537
01:37:21,685 --> 01:37:22,725
30 minutes of it.
2538
01:37:22,725 --> 01:37:27,925
Like That's more compelling than than than the
same guys week in week out.
2539
01:37:27,925 --> 01:37:28,244
Yeah.
2540
01:37:28,244 --> 01:37:29,145
Way more compelling.
2541
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:30,010
Absolutely.
2542
01:37:30,069 --> 01:37:31,029
That's what I'm interested.
2543
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:33,989
That goodbye because that's absolutely gone.
2544
01:37:33,989 --> 01:37:34,969
That's what?
2545
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:36,310
It's absolutely gone.
2546
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:37,750
The underdog story is gone.
2547
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:39,130
It's just guess it goodbye.
2548
01:37:39,989 --> 01:37:41,930
Well, the underdog story is not gone.
2549
01:37:42,354 --> 01:37:47,795
The underdog can still be in the top 100 in the
world, and and be out there.
2550
01:37:47,795 --> 01:37:52,375
So this is my point is that in order to get
there, they're no longer an underdog.
2551
01:37:52,435 --> 01:37:58,590
This is my point is that in order to get to
that place with basically 5 events in the 1st 5
2552
01:37:58,590 --> 01:37:59,489
months, maybe.
2553
01:38:00,670 --> 01:38:01,489
There you go.
2554
01:38:03,310 --> 01:38:04,050
That's funny.
2555
01:38:05,070 --> 01:38:09,550
But, you know, the at the end of the day, if in
order to be in the top 100 in the world, you
2556
01:38:09,550 --> 01:38:13,045
have to basically no longer be an underdog.
2557
01:38:13,045 --> 01:38:17,364
You're no longer an underdog, which is great,
but you won your tour event.
2558
01:38:17,364 --> 01:38:17,845
It's over.
2559
01:38:17,845 --> 01:38:18,005
No.
2560
01:38:18,005 --> 01:38:19,125
You're still an underdog.
2561
01:38:19,125 --> 01:38:25,340
It's just the there's a shift from what, a low
class underdog is to now, like, what a real
2562
01:38:25,340 --> 01:38:27,439
underdog is is how I would look at it.
2563
01:38:27,899 --> 01:38:29,340
You're talking about a 100 guys.
2564
01:38:29,340 --> 01:38:32,719
Click that eyeball that says the, number of
audience.
2565
01:38:33,739 --> 01:38:34,560
Like, 4?
2566
01:38:34,795 --> 01:38:35,114
No.
2567
01:38:35,114 --> 01:38:36,255
We've got 1300.
2568
01:38:36,394 --> 01:38:38,154
I just wanna see where they're coming from.
2569
01:38:38,154 --> 01:38:38,654
Okay.
2570
01:38:39,194 --> 01:38:39,434
Cool.
2571
01:38:39,434 --> 01:38:40,094
Thank you.
2572
01:38:40,394 --> 01:38:41,434
So here's my question.
2573
01:38:41,434 --> 01:38:41,835
China.
2574
01:38:41,835 --> 01:38:43,534
So what what China.
2575
01:38:43,994 --> 01:38:44,494
China.
2576
01:38:44,954 --> 01:38:48,394
What was the Big Asian week on pro golf.
2577
01:38:48,394 --> 01:38:49,274
We could talk to It
2578
01:38:49,274 --> 01:38:49,890
is huge.
2579
01:38:49,890 --> 01:38:50,289
Zoso.
2580
01:38:50,289 --> 01:38:51,350
Absolutely huge.
2581
01:38:52,050 --> 01:39:01,329
But what is what do you guys think is going to
happen when the when essentially, you know,
2582
01:39:01,329 --> 01:39:05,510
you're gonna see the same guys for multiple
weeks in a row?
2583
01:39:06,444 --> 01:39:09,005
I mean, what's gonna happen after the first 4
or 5 weeks?
2584
01:39:09,005 --> 01:39:11,324
I I get you I get your point on this.
2585
01:39:11,324 --> 01:39:12,545
And here's the thing.
2586
01:39:13,564 --> 01:39:17,324
Just shrinking the numbers I'm in full
agreement with you is not gonna make the
2587
01:39:17,324 --> 01:39:18,145
product better.
2588
01:39:18,204 --> 01:39:20,850
It is not going to build out the stories any
better.
2589
01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:27,489
It is not going to make sure that the top guys
are at the top of the leaderboard every single
2590
01:39:27,489 --> 01:39:27,989
week.
2591
01:39:29,489 --> 01:39:35,170
They need to do a better job with the media
side to all of this.
2592
01:39:35,170 --> 01:39:35,649
Agreed.
2593
01:39:35,649 --> 01:39:41,444
We need better coverage because I think it
might have been Brian Shane who mentioned it.
2594
01:39:41,444 --> 01:39:46,664
He's like the product, especially back in the
older days, was boring.
2595
01:39:46,724 --> 01:39:52,390
I remember watching it as I got into golf and I
used to use golf coverage to fall asleep
2596
01:39:52,689 --> 01:39:55,030
because it was great falling asleep stuff.
2597
01:39:55,409 --> 01:39:57,970
And now it is it's very much so.
2598
01:39:57,970 --> 01:40:02,864
The only one that I truly do like is CBS with
Jim Nantz because of Jim Nantz.
2599
01:40:02,945 --> 01:40:08,324
I mean, that people just as a This is the only
Just as a broadcaster host guy, I'm like, man,
2600
01:40:08,385 --> 01:40:12,244
I love listening to him and his insights and
everything like that.
2601
01:40:12,385 --> 01:40:20,050
But the product needs to get better and that
starts with better stories, better media
2602
01:40:20,050 --> 01:40:23,650
coverage, and that stems from HQ at the PGA
Tour.
2603
01:40:23,650 --> 01:40:29,810
They rely way too much on the Golf Channel and
these stations to do all of their work for
2604
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:32,875
them, and that is not a good thing.
2605
01:40:32,875 --> 01:40:33,114
Yeah.
2606
01:40:33,114 --> 01:40:38,095
So, like, what you're saying is basically
whether you cut the field or not, okay, cut it.
2607
01:40:38,155 --> 01:40:40,235
But you still need you're still missing here.
2608
01:40:40,235 --> 01:40:40,635
Yeah.
2609
01:40:40,635 --> 01:40:40,875
Yeah.
2610
01:40:40,875 --> 01:40:42,175
There's still a miss here.
2611
01:40:42,395 --> 01:40:44,155
Like, that's what needs to get better.
2612
01:40:44,155 --> 01:40:45,835
That needs to radically change.
2613
01:40:45,835 --> 01:40:46,335
Yeah.
2614
01:40:46,819 --> 01:40:47,372
So Yeah.
2615
01:40:47,569 --> 01:40:48,747
That's I I totally agree.
2616
01:40:48,944 --> 01:40:50,340
That's where we're gonna end it tonight, guys.
2617
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:56,039
We got much more to talk about next week
because, there's no golf this weekend, folks.
2618
01:40:56,180 --> 01:40:57,859
I I looked I was like, wait a second.
2619
01:40:57,859 --> 01:40:59,800
Is the DP World Tour playing?
2620
01:41:00,020 --> 01:41:00,520
No.
2621
01:41:00,819 --> 01:41:02,359
Is the PGA Tour playing?
2622
01:41:02,795 --> 01:41:03,295
No.
2623
01:41:03,835 --> 01:41:05,135
Is anybody playing?
2624
01:41:05,354 --> 01:41:05,854
No.
2625
01:41:06,074 --> 01:41:09,135
So there's no golf this weekend, so enjoy your
football.
2626
01:41:09,914 --> 01:41:10,875
Get out and tee it up.
2627
01:41:10,875 --> 01:41:11,835
Get out and tee it up.
2628
01:41:11,835 --> 01:41:13,114
Go actually play, folks.
2629
01:41:13,114 --> 01:41:15,534
Go play the game that we all love.
2630
01:41:16,289 --> 01:41:18,470
We're gonna be doing it as well.
2631
01:41:18,850 --> 01:41:20,530
And, yeah.
2632
01:41:20,530 --> 01:41:24,130
So Brian says need more than 1 pod per week,
fellas.
2633
01:41:24,130 --> 01:41:24,689
I agree.
2634
01:41:25,010 --> 01:41:27,510
Brian, we are working on that specifically.
2635
01:41:27,649 --> 01:41:30,689
We might be doing it every day next year.
2636
01:41:30,689 --> 01:41:31,489
Top secret.
2637
01:41:31,489 --> 01:41:32,185
Top secret.
2638
01:41:32,185 --> 01:41:33,244
Holy fucking shit.
2639
01:41:35,545 --> 01:41:38,364
When Apollo comes along, you must sip it.
2640
01:41:40,385 --> 01:41:44,265
You just give me shit earlier.
2641
01:41:44,265 --> 01:41:44,744
I get
2642
01:41:44,744 --> 01:41:45,244
excited.
2643
01:41:45,630 --> 01:41:46,369
I know.
2644
01:41:46,510 --> 01:41:48,189
I get I get too excited with this shit.
2645
01:41:48,189 --> 01:41:49,869
Oh, man.
2646
01:41:49,869 --> 01:41:50,369
Patience.
2647
01:41:51,149 --> 01:41:52,369
Patience, young man.
2648
01:41:52,510 --> 01:41:53,329
So well.
2649
01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:55,569
Wax all wax all.
2650
01:41:56,109 --> 01:41:56,829
Thank you, mister
2651
01:41:58,909 --> 01:42:00,614
oh, it
2652
01:42:00,614 --> 01:42:02,135
was an Asian week and me.
2653
01:42:02,215 --> 01:42:02,854
Content, guys.
2654
01:42:02,854 --> 01:42:03,595
It's shocking.
2655
01:42:04,135 --> 01:42:04,215
Shocking.
2656
01:42:04,215 --> 01:42:05,835
Absolutely shocking.
2657
01:42:06,055 --> 01:42:06,614
Bring in the
2658
01:42:06,614 --> 01:42:07,494
fucking energy.
2659
01:42:07,494 --> 01:42:07,895
Come on.
2660
01:42:07,895 --> 01:42:08,395
Okay.
2661
01:42:09,255 --> 01:42:13,895
Folks, if you are still with us, which there's
more people listening right now than there were
2662
01:42:13,895 --> 01:42:14,609
when we started.
2663
01:42:14,689 --> 01:42:15,810
So Yeah.
2664
01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:16,449
That's always a
2665
01:42:16,449 --> 01:42:16,850
good thing.
2666
01:42:16,850 --> 01:42:18,130
Keep going down the lane.
2667
01:42:18,130 --> 01:42:19,729
Maybe we should go maybe we should
2668
01:42:19,810 --> 01:42:22,869
We're we're we're going on almost 2 hours here.
2669
01:42:23,329 --> 01:42:25,429
So But it's not 2 hours though.
2670
01:42:25,569 --> 01:42:26,289
Oh, boy.
2671
01:42:26,289 --> 01:42:26,949
I'm excellent.
2672
01:42:27,010 --> 01:42:29,234
I know you are not done with this topic.
2673
01:42:29,475 --> 01:42:29,875
I know.
2674
01:42:29,875 --> 01:42:30,914
He's fired up.
2675
01:42:30,914 --> 01:42:31,795
You're never over.
2676
01:42:31,795 --> 01:42:34,755
We're gonna have a continuation of part 2 of
this next week.
2677
01:42:34,755 --> 01:42:38,274
And I'm just literally sitting here, like, I
really actually agree with you guys, but for
2678
01:42:38,274 --> 01:42:38,755
this I know.
2679
01:42:38,755 --> 01:42:41,755
You are you are literally digging into poor
Brent.
2680
01:42:41,954 --> 01:42:42,194
Fuck.
2681
01:42:42,194 --> 01:42:42,354
I
2682
01:42:42,354 --> 01:42:42,675
know.
2683
01:42:42,675 --> 01:42:47,050
And and what what's great is that I don't think
he knew that until you just said it either
2684
01:42:47,050 --> 01:42:47,250
because
2685
01:42:47,449 --> 01:42:47,810
I do that.
2686
01:42:47,930 --> 01:42:49,130
He is getting frustrated.
2687
01:42:49,130 --> 01:42:49,289
No.
2688
01:42:49,289 --> 01:42:50,430
He's getting frustrated.
2689
01:42:50,649 --> 01:42:51,609
I get your boss boss.
2690
01:42:51,609 --> 01:42:53,850
He's like,
2691
01:42:53,850 --> 01:42:55,130
how do you not understand
2692
01:42:55,130 --> 01:42:55,850
that this is
2693
01:42:55,850 --> 01:42:57,229
not a better product?
2694
01:42:57,289 --> 01:42:58,090
Oh, I know.
2695
01:42:58,090 --> 01:42:58,750
I know.
2696
01:42:59,130 --> 01:43:03,324
But, you know, that doesn't make for a fucking
entertaining evening, does it?
2697
01:43:03,324 --> 01:43:03,824
No.
2698
01:43:04,204 --> 01:43:04,364
No.
2699
01:43:04,364 --> 01:43:04,844
No.
2700
01:43:04,844 --> 01:43:05,164
No.
2701
01:43:05,164 --> 01:43:05,645
Yep.
2702
01:43:05,645 --> 01:43:06,765
Gotta bring the pain, boys.
2703
01:43:06,765 --> 01:43:07,404
Come on.
2704
01:43:07,404 --> 01:43:08,625
Gotta bring the pain.
2705
01:43:09,484 --> 01:43:10,444
Boys here at over there.
2706
01:43:10,444 --> 01:43:15,185
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01:43:36,914 --> 01:43:39,715
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2714
01:43:47,550 --> 01:43:48,829
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2715
01:43:48,829 --> 01:43:51,229
We got, sure enough, good old x.
2716
01:43:51,229 --> 01:43:53,229
I haven't been as active on x lately.
2717
01:43:53,229 --> 01:43:56,510
I haven't been getting into all the arguments
with everybody, but,
2718
01:43:56,989 --> 01:43:57,310
Nah.
2719
01:43:57,310 --> 01:43:58,110
You're past that.
2720
01:43:58,110 --> 01:43:59,864
Now you just let them hate amongst themselves.
2721
01:43:59,864 --> 01:44:00,104
Yeah.
2722
01:44:00,104 --> 01:44:00,765
I love it.
2723
01:44:01,385 --> 01:44:01,864
Mhmm.
2724
01:44:01,864 --> 01:44:02,265
Watch the
2725
01:44:02,425 --> 01:44:03,104
Little bit of news.
2726
01:44:03,225 --> 01:44:03,465
Folks.
2727
01:44:03,465 --> 01:44:05,064
I'll be in studio next week.
2728
01:44:05,064 --> 01:44:06,265
Brent Grant in studio.
2729
01:44:06,265 --> 01:44:07,005
That's right.
2730
01:44:07,064 --> 01:44:08,104
How about a Rob with
2731
01:44:08,104 --> 01:44:10,125
the house for Brent Grant being in studio?
2732
01:44:10,744 --> 01:44:11,145
Where's he gonna sit?
2733
01:44:11,145 --> 01:44:11,252
Where's he gonna sit?
2734
01:44:11,252 --> 01:44:11,954
It is in there, buddy.
2735
01:44:11,954 --> 01:44:12,454
Right?
2736
01:44:17,210 --> 01:44:18,109
Right here, babe.
2737
01:44:18,489 --> 01:44:20,670
So until next week, guys.
2738
01:44:20,969 --> 01:44:21,869
Peace out.
2739
01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:23,309
A town Toodles.
2740
01:44:23,699 --> 01:44:24,199
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